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Oh yay, Hoopsworld. Judging by their recent slew of rumors and articles, the interest Portland has in Ariza probably goes back to interest in him when he was drafted.
 
He shot 16% better on threes in the playoffs (47.5%) than he did in the regular season (31.9%). He's a solid player, but as a Raider fan, I remember when Al signed Larry Brown to a big contract based solely on his play in a Super Bowl.
 
Yeah.. HoopsWorld is not a solid source for inside info.
 
Bah.... I can't get behind any decision to bring the dirty biatch here, but if it were truly a mechanism to screw LA, I'm all for it. That said, I don't think our SF position of any concern right now. PG has a much, much more glaring hole.
 
Ugh ... I'm not sure I could get over my hatred for Ariza that quickly. His unnecessary hard foul on Rudy and subsequent crowing and chest-puffing is burned into my brain.

-Pop
 
I think Batum becomes a very Ariza like player in two years, and quite possibly a lot better. Shoot, when he was playing with confidence he looked like Ariza last year.
 
I would love the Blazers to after Ariza for several reasons

1. He is better than any of our SF's right now

2. If they don't sign him they will drive the price up for the L*kers

3. Signing him more than likely means Travis will be gone
 
Mediocre Man said:
I would love the Blazers to after Ariza for several reasons

1. He is better than any of our SF's right now

2. If they don't sign him they will drive the price up for the L*kers

3. Signing him more than likely means Travis will be gone
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lol I'll agree with all of this.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I would love the Blazers to after Ariza for several reasons

1. He is better than any of our SF's right now

2. If they don't sign him they will drive the price up for the L*kers

3. Signing him more than likely means Travis will be gone
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That's reason enough to go after him hard.
 
KP has been a master at misdirection about players he's interested in to the point where, if I see it in print (as a rumor) I assume there is no way it's going to happen.
 
I don't see Ariza going anywhere, and that's as it should be. He bounced around the league with only Isiah Thomas believing in him (say what you will, but Thomas could draft well) until Phil Jackson saw something in him. He fits perfectly with the Lakers, and wouldn't be as good in other systems. He's not a great ball handler or even particularly talented. He's their Bruce Bowen. They deserve him. But he also deserves a lot of money, so I hope they spend it all on him and let the much more talented and important Lamar Odom go.

(I wonder what'll happen to all the scrubs that flourish in the triangle offense if Phil really does retire? I wonder if Jordan Farmar is REALLY rooting for it to happen...)
 
Mediocre Man said:
I would love the Blazers to after Ariza for several reasons

1. He is better than any of our SF's right now

2. If they don't sign him they will drive the price up for the L*kers

3. Signing him more than likely means Travis will be gone
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I like that! I think KP is doing that.
 
Fine. Play the game. Drive up the cost of Assriza. But dammit, if he's brought in I will have some serious psychological issues to deal with.
 
you arent getting him...but screw you guys for raising his price
 
RickyRubio said:
You really wouldn't want him here? He would be great!
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My mind says yes. My heart screams no.

To be real though, he might *gulp* be the perfect fit. Shit. First the Lakers lose, then you bring me down with the race discussion, and now this. Why did I even wake up this morning?
 
DaRizzle said:
you arent getting him...but screw you guys for raising his price
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A starting contract of $8M for five years with small increases annually. Would that get him?

I'm warming up to this idea. Let the good times roll. What better player to add to your team if you're needing to build to get past the Lakers. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
 
Crimson the Cat said:
A starting contract of $8M for five years with small increases annually. Would that get him?

I'm warming up to this idea. Let the good times roll. What better player to add to your team if you're needing to build to get past the Lakers. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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Would that get him? Hell, half of the GMs in the NBA would be laughing at whoever gives him that deal. He's a $5-6 million/4 year guy, tops.
 
PapaG said:
Would that get him? Hell, half of the GMs in the NBA would be laughing at whoever gives him that deal. He's a $5-6 million/4 year guy, tops.
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If Portland's interested, they'll have to overpay. LA would re-sign him in a heart beat if the contract he was willing to take began at the mid-level. Posey got a deal of the mid-level variety and Ariza significantly better and hasn't nearly hit his ceiling yet. $7M starting seems to be more within reason.
 
Crimson the Cat said:
If Portland's interested, they'll have to overpay. LA would re-sign him in a heart beat if the contract he was willing to take began at the mid-level. Posey got a deal of the mid-level variety and Ariza significantly better and hasn't nearly hit his ceiling yet. $7M starting seems to be more within reason.
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How is Ariza better than Posey? Their games are not at all similar other than Posey is actually a decent 3pt shooter while Ariza is not (outside of his playoff hot streak).
 
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Really people, look at what Ariza is asked to do. It's pretty minimal. He guards the opposing team's SF (does he even guard SGs? I don't think so - they put Kobe on Roy), he shoots open threes, and he's active on D. He's a role player. A very good role player, but there's a reason he bounced around. He's not a threat off the dribble, he can't create his own shot, and he's pretty slight. He's perfect for LA, and THEY need him, but that doesn't mean he'd be great anywhere else. Matt Barnes isn't far off from Trevor Ariza.
 
PapaG said:
Would that get him? Hell, half of the GMs in the NBA would be laughing at whoever gives him that deal. He's a $5-6 million/4 year guy, tops.
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Really? I would have to guess that several of his prime time steals in the playoffs were worth that much alone.
 
hasoos said:
Really? I would have to guess that several of his prime time steals in the playoffs were worth that much alone.
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Like I said, someone will overpay for him because he had some moments in the playoffs. I just hope it isn't the Blazers, for reasons I've listed in this and the other Ariza thread. His stats in the Finals were fairly miserable, and his career PER is actually less than that of Travis Outlaw. He is a very limited player who found a system that needed his skills.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Really people, look at what Ariza is asked to do. It's pretty minimal. He guards the opposing team's SF (does he even guard SGs? I don't think so - they put Kobe on Roy), he shoots open threes, and he's active on D. He's a role player. A very good role player, but there's a reason he bounced around. He's not a threat off the dribble, he can't create his own shot, and he's pretty slight. He's perfect for LA, and THEY need him, but that doesn't mean he'd be great anywhere else. Matt Barnes isn't far off from Trevor Ariza.
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Only in the 4th quarter. He defended him the first 3 quarters.

We want very good role players.

All the more reason to get him. They are easily our #1 threat, and losing him would really hurt him

Matt Barnes is as far off from Trevor Ariza and Trevor Ariza is from Teyshaun Prince, IMO
 
PapaG said:
Like I said, someone will overpay for him because he had some moments in the playoffs. I just hope it isn't the Blazers, for reasons I've listed in this and the other Ariza thread. His stats in the Finals were fairly miserable, and his career PER is actually less than that of Travis Outlaw. He is a very limited player who found a system that needed his skills.
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Finals Stats:
PPG - 12.0
RPG - 4.0
APG - 4.2
SPG - 1.0
BPG - 0.4
FG% - 61%
3FG% - 61%

Miserable? That would be the 3rd best stats of any Blazer this playoffs.

Up until this year, Ariza wasn't given the freedom to shoot 3's or play extended minutes. He's totally taken advantage of his chance in LA to show what type of player he is.
 
Tince said:
Only in the 4th quarter. He defended him the first 3 quarters.

We want very good role players.

All the more reason to get him. They are easily our #1 threat, and losing him would really hurt him
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Again though, what price will you pay for a limited role player?

Matt Barnes is as far off from Trevor Ariza and Trevor Ariza is from Teyshaun Prince, IMO
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No way. Barnes and Ariza are much closer; Prince is a much more complete player than either of them. Plus, Barnes is a better offensive player than Ariza.
 
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