Blazers almost had Parker....

[craigehlo]

Yeah, not sure I understand. I want Parker, and like the original deal. Adding something like a Wallace for Jefferson swap? I dunno about that.

Wallace no. Camby yes.

Camby wasn't an impact player after his knee surgery and his career is probably done after this season.

 

[Mediocre Man]

parker/jefferson/29 for camby/miller/batum/21?

parker/??
roy/wes/rudy
crash/jeffers
lma/??
oden/??

eh, kinda thin up front

Draft and FA signings could have easily solved that

 

[3RA1N1AC]

if we can stall them and keep our 21 or maybe even get THEIR 29, i think i would do miller/camby/batum

 

[craigehlo]

eh, kinda thin up front

Some free agent big men out there (unrestricted):

Tyson Chandler
Andrei Kirilenko
Samuel Dalembert
Glen Davis
Hilton Armstrong
Nenad Krstic
Troy Murphy
Nazr Mohammed
Joel Przybilla
Kwame Brown
Kenyon Martin
Dan Gadzuric
Kris Humphries
Kurt Thomas
Jeff Foster
Josh McRoberts
Chris Wilcox
Brian Cardinal
Kyrylo Fesenko

Not all amazing, but there's many serviceable names in the bunch.

 

[EGame]

AND he has championship experience. Douchebags

Im with you. Maybe not the namecalling part haha, but I believe Parker would be an excellent addition to this team even at the expense of Jefferson's bloated contract. At some point if you want to be a championship contending team you have to give to get and the Blazers just don't like giving (or if they do they don't like receiving a bloated contract which can be understandable, but has to be necessary sometimes). Just see the Gerald Wallace trade, very little was traded. While Jefferson isn't the greatest of players, he isn't that toxic of a contract, he can still help a little, and definitely help a lot more then our very own toxic contract in Roy. Knowing that this team as constructed now won't win a title, you have to take some risks. This is one of those risks, it could pay off or it could bite us in the ass. But at least we can turn two vets in Miller and Camby into something rather then them retiring or leaving town once there contract is up. Trading Batum stings, but come on guys, we have Wallace who is still a baller and Parker > Batum.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Some free agent big men out there (unrestricted):

Tyson Chandler
Andrei Kirilenko
Samuel Dalembert
Glen Davis
Hilton Armstrong
Nenad Krstic
Troy Murphy
Nazr Mohammed
Joel Przybilla
Kwame Brown
Kenyon Martin
Dan Gadzuric
Kris Humphries
Kurt Thomas
Jeff Foster
Josh McRoberts
Chris Wilcox
Brian Cardinal
Kyrylo Fesenko

Not all amazing, but there's many serviceable names in the bunch.

Kwame and Oden together at last!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

you know what...if we did this deal, we might actually be a desired destination for a few nice free agents...

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

AND he has championship experience. Douchebags

So does Brian Cardinal. He's owed $40m and is steadily declining:

22.6 PPG -- 17.4 PER
19.6 PPG -- 15.4 PER
12.3 PPG -- 13.1 PER
11.0 PPG -- 12.4 PER

He's not Rashard Lewis toxic but he's just a tier below.

 

[Nikolokolus]

you know what...if we did this deal, we might actually be a desired destination for a few nice free agents...

Huh? Is Tony Parker bringing Texas sunshine and low taxes with him?

 

[craigehlo]

you know what...if we did this deal, we might actually be a desired destination for a few nice free agents...

That's a good point. With Boston and the Lakers on the decline, not every free agent can go to the Heat or Mavs.

 

[craigehlo]

Kwame and Oden together at last!

Dare to dream.

 

[EGame]

Huh? Is Tony Parker bringing Texas sunshine and low taxes with him?

That would be nice.

 

[B-Roy]

Draft and FA signings could have easily solved that

Are you kidding me? Trading Camby means you're confident heading into next season hoping for
1.) Oden to stay healthy/play heavy minutes through fouls
2.) Hope you luck out on a good drafted big
3.) Hope you can pawn off scraps to another team for a good big
or 4.) Are confident you can sign (or overpay, like most teams do) a decent big after the new CBA comes into effect

And EVEN THEN, we are super thin up front and completely screwed if LMA goes down for any amount of time over a week. That is just way too much risk to take for any team.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Huh? Is Tony Parker bringing Texas sunshine and low taxes with him?

huh? what?

fucking a

 

[craigehlo]

Are you kidding me? Trading Camby means you're confident heading into next season hoping for

I think the odds of Camby being healthy next season are in the same ball park of the Blazers getting a nice big man with the MLE. Not much of a risk IMHO in trading an aging vet in the twilight of his career.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I think the odds of Camby being healthy next season are in the same ball park of the Blazers getting a nice big man with the MLE. Not much of a risk IMHO in trading an aging vet in the twilight of his career.

im kinda feeling this too, camby is clearly on his way out...if we were going to make a run as is i would say keep him, but as we are now, we need upgrades

 

[BBert]

if we can stall them and keep our 21 or maybe even get THEIR 29, i think i would do miller/camby/batum

This. Miller/Camby/Nico for Parker/Jefferson/Pick 29. They are trying to dump Jefferson and his contract, so they are going to have to give up something too.

Since I don't know what was really on the table, it's kind of hard to be hard on the Blazers for saying no to Jefferson for ???

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Maybe this deal isn't done for yet, each team waiting to see who will blink first?

 

[barfo]

Since I don't know what was really on the table, it's kind of hard to be hard on the Blazers for saying no to Jefferson for ???

No, no, the idea here is you just decide what they must have offered based on your own prejudices, and then insist that the blazers are morons for not taking your imagined offer, and suggest that hat guy is responsible for the failure to make your imagined trade.

Fun for the whole family. Ages 2 and up.

 

[tester551]

parker/jefferson/29 for camby/miller/batum/21?

parker/??
roy/wes/rudy
crash/jeffers
lma/??
oden/??

eh, kinda thin up front

I would do that trade. Flip Rudy for #20 & take Fariad. You still are a little thin up front, but there are some "ok" FA out there.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Didn't this same thing happen last year when the Bobcats said we needed to include Batum in the deal. Who blinked first?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Didn't this same thing happen last year when the Bobcats said we needed to include Batum in the deal. Who blinked first?

nice!

 

[B-Roy]

I think the odds of Camby being healthy next season are in the same ball park of the Blazers getting a nice big man with the MLE. Not much of a risk IMHO in trading an aging vet in the twilight of his career.

There likely won't BE a MLE with the next CBA. The Blazers currently have one of the highest payrolls of any team. My hunch is that after the new CBA kicks in, the Blazers will be in one of the teams in a bad position in regards with ability to sign free agents.

Besides, Camby is better than just about all of the big men you listed. Keeping him also doesn't prevent the Blazers from going out to try and get another big. With Camby, our depth is bad, but without him, it's unreal...

 

[ILOVEODEN]

I want Parker, but not at the price of giving up Batum and taking Jefferson's contract.

Yes the great Batum!!!! He's is soooooo awesome. (most overrated blazer in franchise history)

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Yes the great Batum!!!! He's is soooooo awesome. (most overrated blazer in franchise history)

Huh?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Yeah, Camby's a big guy, and yeah, losing him would make us thin up front. BUT, if Jefferson for Camby is the cost of Miller/Batum for Parker/29, then I think you have to do it. Everyone agrees that the one thing we need to increase is talent. IMO, this does that.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

BlazerFreeman

For Blazers fans dreaming about Tony Parker in a Blazers uniform, my sources say you should give up the dream. Not happening.

:-/

 

[EGame]

Freeman? Has he shown he knows anything when it comes to trade rumors?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Are you kidding me? Trading Camby means you're confident heading into next season hoping for
1.) Oden to stay healthy/play heavy minutes through fouls
2.) Hope you luck out on a good drafted big
3.) Hope you can pawn off scraps to another team for a good big
or 4.) Are confident you can sign (or overpay, like most teams do) a decent big after the new CBA comes into effect

And EVEN THEN, we are super thin up front and completely screwed if LMA goes down for any amount of time over a week. That is just way too much risk to take for any team.

Dude.. Camby kinda sucks now. Wouldn't be hard to get a serviceable big to replace him.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Dude.. Camby kinda sucks now. Wouldn't be hard to get a serviceable big to replace him.

Yeah right. His TRB% of 24.1 would have lead the league had he played in enough games and is one of the highest in league history (Dennis Rodman is the ONLY player in league history to ever post a higher TRB%). His BLK% of 5.0 is also very good. Who else are we going to get who provides that kind of rebounding (for comparison, Kevin Love's "historic" league leading TRB% was 23.6 and Dwight Howard was at 21.8). And just so you don't think that was a fluke, Camby did lead the league in TRB% the previous season at 22.2. Camby is a great rebounder, and he's getting better with age. His TRB% the past two seasons are the two highest of his very long career. Yeah, he isn't much on offense, but he is an excellent passer (for a big man - AST% = 11.7), a dominant rebounder and can defend the paint. At this point in his career, he would be the perfect back-up and mentor to Greg Oden (and still a serviceable starter if Oden goes down - again).

BNM