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[THE HCP]

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TRAIL BLAZERS PRE-DRAFT WORKOUT SCHEDULE - TUESDAY, MAY 29

WHAT
The Trail Blazers' schedule of pre-draft workouts for Tuesday, May 29. The 2012 NBA Draft will take place on Thursday, June 28.

WHO
Kent Bazemore, Guard/Forward (Old Dominion), Kris Joseph, Forward (Syracuse), Meyers Leonard, Center (Illinois), Garrett Sim, Guard (Oregon), Casper Ware, Guard (Long Beach State), Tyler Zeller, Center (North Carolina).

WHEN
Workouts are scheduled to begin at 8 a.m., with media access for all players starting at approximately 9:30 a.m.

WHERE
Trail Blazers Practice Facility - 7325 SW Childs Road

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

A lot of second rounders there.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Seeing Zeller on that list makes me real nervous. He just strikes me as one of those guys who doesn't have the athletic ability to make the leap to the next level. I would take a chance on Henson first.

 

[MickZagger]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

I've always kind of liked Leonard. I wouldn't mind seeing us take a flier on Casper Ware in the 2nd round.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

One of these guys will win championships and the other will win scoring titles.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

The last time I saw Leonard was in the U19 games against Lithuania -- Jonas Valanciunas absolutely embarrassed Meyers.

In one game (they played twice IIRC) Meyers (guarding Jonas) finished with 0 pts 0 rebs 6 fouls.

Zeller could be a solid third big -- think Nick Collison.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

The last time I saw Leonard was in the U19 games against Lithuania -- Jonas Valanciunas absolutely embarrassed Meyers.

In one game (they played twice IIRC) Meyers (guarding Jonas) finished with 0 pts 0 rebs 6 fouls.

Good news! In summer league you get 10 fouls.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Reading the Oregonians article on the draft workout, just angered me. We will have a group of men conducting the workouts and evaluating the talent who might have a completely different approach than the guys we bring in permanently. Just an epic fail by this front office to wait this long to fill the GM position.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Reading the Oregonians article on the draft workout, just angered me. We will have a group of men conducting the workouts and evaluating the talent who might have a completely different approach than the guys we bring in permanently. Just an epic fail by this front office to wait this long to fill the GM position.

This falls on the shoulders of team president Larry Miller.

 

[MickZagger]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

The last time I saw Leonard was in the U19 games against Lithuania -- Jonas Valanciunas absolutely embarrassed Meyers.

In one game (they played twice IIRC) Meyers (guarding Jonas) finished with 0 pts 0 rebs 6 fouls.

Zeller could be a solid third big -- think Nick Collison.

You always bring up these 1 on 1 comparisons like they mean a ton. Sabonis absolutely abused Robinson when they were in their early 20's. We all know Robinson was a bum.

I'll go off a little bit more than a head to head matchup in an under 19 game.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

They just happened to be in a lot of ISO's because Leonard couldn't guard Valanciunas ~ in both games.

With the right coaches around him he could be good, otherwise you're taking a risk with a lotto pick on the second coming of Robert Swift.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Btw, who is running these workouts?

The last few years wasn't Kanales the guy who ran pre-draft drills?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

This falls on the shoulders of team president Larry Miller.

How is it Larry Miller's fault?

 

[julius]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

How is it Larry Miller's fault?

He's black!

oh wait, that's the President.

He's an easy target, and a scapegoat.

Not that there aren't issues with him, or that he's not a bit smarmy.

 

[handiman]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

You always bring up these 1 on 1 comparisons like they mean a ton. Sabonis absolutely abused Robinson when they were in their early 20's. We all know Robinson was a bum.

Your own example disproves nothing. That was a pre-injury Sabonis. There's no reason to believe he wouldn't have continued to dominate Robinson otherwise.

 

[MickZagger]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Your own example disproves nothing. That was a pre-injury Sabonis. There's no reason to believe he wouldn't have continued to dominate Robinson otherwise.

If players developed in an identical pattern, sure.

 

[Blazinaway]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

The last time I saw Leonard was in the U19 games against Lithuania -- Jonas Valanciunas absolutely embarrassed Meyers.

In one game (they played twice IIRC) Meyers (guarding Jonas) finished with 0 pts 0 rebs 6 fouls.

Zeller could be a solid third big -- think Nick Collison.

I'd rather not think about Zeller at all, a total "meh/blah" IMO

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Zeller could be a solid third big -- think Nick Collison.

I would imagine we could move our 11th pick for Collison in a second....so it's not exactly a compelling argument. That said, I DO like Collison, I just am hoping for someone with more upside in the lottery.

 

[julius]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

I would imagine we could move our 11th pick for Collison in a second....so it's not exactly a compelling argument. That said, I DO like Collison, I just am hoping for someone with more upside in the lottery.

really?

trade the 11th pick for soon to be 32 year old, never averaged over double figures, and averaged 4 ppg this last season Nick Collison?

The Zombie Sonics would trip over themselves to trade for the 11th pick in the draft if it cost them Nick Collison.

It wouldn't be hard to find someone with more "upside" in the lottery.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

really?

trade the 11th pick for soon to be 32 year old, never averaged over double figures, and averaged 4 ppg this last season Nick Collison?

The Zombie Sonics would trip over themselves to trade for the 11th pick in the draft if it cost them Nick Collison.

I don't think he was advocating trading the 11th pick for Collison..

 

[RR7]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

The last time I saw Leonard was in the U19 games against Lithuania -- Jonas Valanciunas absolutely embarrassed Meyers.

In one game (they played twice IIRC) Meyers (guarding Jonas) finished with 0 pts 0 rebs 6 fouls.

Zeller could be a solid third big -- think Nick Collison.

Meyers only played 13 minutes, they played only once, and he only had 1 foul. Otherwise, spot on! Looks more like US went small, and won the game.

 

[LameR]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

really?

trade the 11th pick for soon to be 32 year old, never averaged over double figures, and averaged 4 ppg this last season Nick Collison?

The Zombie Sonics would trip over themselves to trade for the 11th pick in the draft if it cost them Nick Collison.

It wouldn't be hard to find someone with more "upside" in the lottery.

Even though it would be a bad trade, you're selling Collison way short. He's the ultimate glue guy that makes everyone around him better, and is definitely not someone to be judged by PPG.

 

[julius]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Even though it would be a bad trade, you're selling Collison way short. He's the ultimate glue guy that makes everyone around him better, and is definitely not someone to be judged by PPG.

But not worth a lottery pick

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

I like that they have those two top 20 centers coming in on the same day. I'm assuming they will go head to head and I like that also; that they were both willing to do that. I don't like guys who shy away from that.

 

[LameR]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

But not worth a lottery pick

Agreed, that's why I prefaced it with "even though it would be a bad trade," haha.

 

[Blaze01]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

A whole bunch of ugh....

Joseph is mildly intriguing ....I guess....

I wouldn't even consider drafting Zeller or Leonard at #11....but with Chad running the show and last year's pick of "let's draft a backup PG" Nolan Smith...Why am I not surprised??

 

[THE HCP]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Those 2 bigs are considered lottery picks this years people. I don't want 'em, but they will go early.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

Don't draft a whitey

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Blazers draft workouts......

No white American centers in the lottery. You have to bring em in for a look though

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Trail Blazers Draft Central

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Truncated workout for Drummond. Coming off a bout of food poisoning. Nice guy. Working hard. Has crazy upside if he can put it all together

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Drummond has lost 22 pounds since ending the season. He's at 268 now. He's very quick laterally for a big guy. VERY QUICK

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Drummond working out with Idan Ravin, Aka "the Hoops Whisperer", in a private gym in Manhattan

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Next stop in the draft workout tour: NYC to see UConn's Andre Drummond