Blazers had tried to claim Miles off waiver?!?

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Blazers had tried to claim Miles off waivers?!?

According to Yahoo sports which was just written an hour or so ago:

Before the Portland Trail Blazers resorted to a threatening email to frighten rival NBA teams from signing Darius Miles, team officials late last week made a brazen bid to claim the forward off waivers only to be stopped by the league, multiple front-office sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Wow, like the Energizer bunny, this Miles saga just keeps going and going. It's like a cheesy comic book plot.

If we did try to re-sign Miles, I think this does makes our team look a bit hypocritical. Our image around the league might be tarnished indefinitely now, at least to the national (and maybe local) media. I hope this Miles fiasco comes to a final resolution and we can finally move on. But I fear that it this saga has miles to go (pun intended).

 

[KingSpeed]

That's incredible. We were just gonna drop SBo and keep Miles on the bench?

 

[audienorris]

i dont buy it one bit. either those unnamed front office sources are just trying to make us look even worse or yahoo is just making it up for a story.

 

[Ed O]

I've advocated that for a couple of weeks. I hope they DID try to do it... and that the league at least gave them a thumbs-down.

Ed O.

 

[MrJayremmie]

I really hope not. We just need to leave him alone.

 

[craigehlo]

i dont buy it one bit. either those unnamed front office sources are just trying to make us look even worse or yahoo is just making it up for a story.

It makes sense to me. They tried the waiver gimmick and panicked when the league blocked their attempt to claim Miles. So they hastily threw that email together and blasted it out the rest of the league.

I always figured there was something like this waiver denial or a threat from another GM that set off Larry Miller to quickly put together that ill-advised email.

 

[MrJayremmie]

It makes sense to me. They tried the waiver gimmick and panicked when the league blocked their attempt to claim Miles. So they hastily threw that email together and blasted it out the rest of the league.

I always figured there was something like this waiver denial or a threat from another GM that set off Larry Miller to quickly put together that ill-advised email.

That would be really disappointing.

 

[Natebishop3]

Why is yahoo sports breaking all this news? Since when is yahoo the leader in sports rumors? Who are these guys?

 

[craigehlo]

Why is yahoo sports breaking all this news? Since when is yahoo the leader in sports rumors? Who are these guys?

Adrian Wojnarowski is pretty well respected and has more league contacts than guys like Canzano.

 

[Natebishop3]

Adrian Wojnarowski is pretty well respected and has more league contacts than guys like Canzano.

I have no problem with it. I think it's good to have competition. It seems like other sites like Fox sports and the Sporting News have really dropped off in terms of trying to compete with ESPN for content. If someone like Yahoo wants to throw their hat in the ring, more power to them.

 

[craigehlo]

That would be really disappointing.

That waivers scenario makes perfect sense because that email really seemed to be coming from a place of desperation. To me it seemed like a "plan B" that was thrown together hastily without considering the broader repercussions and considering it would likely be leaked.

They really should have spend all of their effort to lobby the league to see if they could get exception made for this very unique scenario. Now they have poisoned the well and don't have any goodwill with the NBA right now.

 

[craigehlo]

I have no problem with it. I think it's good to have competition. It seems like other sites like Fox sports and the Sporting News have really dropped off in terms of trying to compete with ESPN for content. If someone like Yahoo wants to throw their hat in the ring, more power to them.

Yea, I can't remember the last time Fox or SN broke a story. Yahoo seems to beat ESPN to NBA scoops more and more often these days.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yea, I can't remember the last time Fox or SN broke a story. Yahoo seems to beat ESPN to NBA scoops more and more often these days.

ESPN really isn't very good at breaking news. They're good at re-breaking news. Someone else breaks it, they pick up on it and run it. That's how MOST people hear about it. Of course, Blazer fans on this forum pay just as much attention to national news as ESPN, so why go to ESPN when you can just come here to get your daily news?

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I hope we did try to claim him. It would be stupid not to. At least we'd be in control in regards to the situation if we where able to claim him.

 

[BatumKaboom]

Good. Who cares? Oh yeah, you soft, tree hugging Oregonians. Who the fuck cares? Our team is doing ANYTHING it can to get rid of a fucking parasite cancer bitch named Darius Miles. I wouldn't cry about it if KP put a hit out on Miles. As long as it takes his contract off our books. Who fucking cares?

Stop being such god damned wussies.

 

[Natebishop3]

Good. Who cares? Oh yeah, you soft, tree hugging Oregonians. Who the fuck cares? Our team is doing ANYTHING it can to get rid of a fucking parasite cancer bitch named Darius Miles. I wouldn't cry about it if KP put a hit out on Miles. As long as it takes his contract off our books. Who fucking cares?

Stop being such god damned wussies.

Ok, so obviously the correct response to this post is to laugh at you...

But I'm going to attempt to point out a flaw in your logic (obvious I know). You're saying "Our team is doing anything it can to get rid of a fucking parasite cancer bitch named Darius Miles", but the thread is about how the team tried to claim him off waivers.... do you not see the discrepancy in what you just said?

 

[craigehlo]

Good. Who cares? Oh yeah, you soft, tree hugging Oregonians. Who the fuck cares? Our team is doing ANYTHING it can to get rid of a fucking parasite cancer bitch named Darius Miles. I wouldn't cry about it if KP put a hit out on Miles. As long as it takes his contract off our books. Who fucking cares?

Stop being such god damned wussies.

Maybe you should have written the email for the Blazers to send to the rest of the league. You clearly demonstrated a knack for diplomacy.

 

[BatumKaboom]

Maybe you should have written the email for the Blazers to send to the rest of the league. You clearly demonstrated a knack for diplomacy.

And you could come with me. Since you clearly demonstrate a knack for pussy.

 

[Natebishop3]

And you could come with me. Since you clearly demonstrate a knack for pussy.

That sounds more like a compliment than an insult.

 

[craigehlo]

And you could come with me. Since you clearly demonstrate a knack for pussy.

That sounds creepy.

Take it elsewhere if you don't want to discuss this thread. If you want to swing away at random posters and not discuss topics at hand go to digg.com or something.

 

[Norman Dale]

It looks to me the Blazers were trying to do what they could to protect their cap space. If someone can find me in the rules where it says that a team can't sign a player that retired from their team and then they can re-sign the following year, that would be great. But since I don't think that rule is out there, it looks like the Blazers were then frustrated with the league. They then sent out the email letting teams know that, if a team signed Miles solely for the purpose of taking away Portland's cap space, the Blazers would seek damages.

Do I think the Blazers really think they can prove that teams are only signing Miles to mess with the Blazers' cap space? No, but I do think the Blazers are frustrated with the league coming up with one rule and then allowing teams to do something that isn't addressed in the CBA. I also think they believe it is unfair (and I agree with them) to the team that they should take a cap hit due to a independent doctor making the diagnosis that Miles' career was done, even though the player believes he can still play.

 

[Denny Crane]

It looks to me the Blazers were trying to do what they could to protect their cap space. If someone can find me in the rules where it says that a team can't sign a player that retired from their team and then they can re-sign the following year, that would be great. But since I don't think that rule is out there, it looks like the Blazers were then frustrated with the league. They then sent out the email letting teams know that, if a team signed Miles solely for the purpose of taking away Portland's cap space, the Blazers would seek damages.

Do I think the Blazers really think they can prove that teams are only signing Miles to mess with the Blazers' cap space? No, but I do think the Blazers are frustrated with the league coming up with one rule and then allowing teams to do something that isn't addressed in the CBA. I also think they believe it is unfair (and I agree with them) to the team that they should take a cap hit due to a independent doctor making the diagnosis that Miles' career was done, even though the player believes he can still play.

Interesting POV. Another might be that Portland should suffer the cap hit since they signed him to the big contract in the first place, and injuries are part of the game so it's tough.

The independent doctors wouldn't have been involved if Portland didn't seek CBA cap relief due to the injured player. The doctors ruled in the Blazers' favor and against Miles' interests, assuming Miles really wants to play.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Interesting POV. Another might be that Portland should suffer the cap hit since they signed him to the big contract in the first place, and injuries are part of the game so it's tough.

The independent doctors wouldn't have been involved if Portland didn't seek CBA cap relief due to the injured player. The doctors ruled in the Blazers' favor and against Miles' interests, assuming Miles really wants to play.

I think the rule should be changed so that if a player declared to have a career ending injury plays the requisite 10 games, the contract goes against the cap -- but does not count towards the luxury tax. It is one thing to screw with the Blazer's cap room, but to actually create a monetary incentive for a cash strapped team to sign a player so they get luxury tax money from the Blazers is unfair IMO.

 

[drexlersdad]

Good. Who cares? Oh yeah, you soft, tree hugging Oregonians. Who the fuck cares? Our team is doing ANYTHING it can to get rid of a fucking parasite cancer bitch named Darius Miles. I wouldn't cry about it if KP put a hit out on Miles. As long as it takes his contract off our books. Who fucking cares?

Stop being such god damned wussies.

ben davis?

 

[drexlersdad]

It looks to me the Blazers were trying to do what they could to protect their cap space. If someone can find me in the rules where it says that a team can't sign a player that retired from their team and then they can re-sign the following year, that would be great. But since I don't think that rule is out there, it looks like the Blazers were then frustrated with the league. They then sent out the email letting teams know that, if a team signed Miles solely for the purpose of taking away Portland's cap space, the Blazers would seek damages.

Do I think the Blazers really think they can prove that teams are only signing Miles to mess with the Blazers' cap space? No, but I do think the Blazers are frustrated with the league coming up with one rule and then allowing teams to do something that isn't addressed in the CBA. I also think they believe it is unfair (and I agree with them) to the team that they should take a cap hit due to a independent doctor making the diagnosis that Miles' career was done, even though the player believes he can still play.

kp?

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think the rule should be changed so that if a player declared to have a career ending injury plays the requisite 10 games, the contract goes against the cap -- but does not count towards the luxury tax. It is one thing to screw with the Blazer's cap room, but to actually create a monetary incentive for a cash strapped team to sign a player so they get luxury tax money from the Blazers is unfair IMO.

I also think instead of 10 games, there should be a minimum number of minutes required before putting the player's salary back on the books against his previous team. Something like 200 minutes. That could be either 20 MPG over 10 games, or 2 MPG for 100 games.

In order to prove the player has indeed recovered from his "career ending" injury, either he should be able to play major minutes for a short period, or should be able to stick with a team long enough to collect a significant amount of garbage time minutes. Playing a guy the last 1:46 of a blowout does nothing to prove he still has a viable NBA career.

Also, preseason games should not count. They don't count for anything else. They don't in the standings, the stats don't count for the players' season or career averages. Why should they count in this case? Since the games are meaningless, teams would be more likely to give a medically retired player PT to screw over another team.

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

kp?

Too obvious. I'm thinking KP is Batumkaboom.

 

[MrJayremmie]

It looks to me the Blazers were trying to do what they could to protect their cap space. If someone can find me in the rules where it says that a team can't sign a player that retired from their team and then they can re-sign the following year, that would be great. But since I don't think that rule is out there, it looks like the Blazers were then frustrated with the league. They then sent out the email letting teams know that, if a team signed Miles solely for the purpose of taking away Portland's cap space, the Blazers would seek damages.

Do I think the Blazers really think they can prove that teams are only signing Miles to mess with the Blazers' cap space? No, but I do think the Blazers are frustrated with the league coming up with one rule and then allowing teams to do something that isn't addressed in the CBA. I also think they believe it is unfair (and I agree with them) to the team that they should take a cap hit due to a independent doctor making the diagnosis that Miles' career was done, even though the player believes he can still play.

Definitely, KP.

ben davis?

LOL!

kp?

My thoughts exactly.

I also agree w/ BNM about a minute requirement.

Edit - But I think Preseason games are fine. The game requirement is just showing that he CAN play... so I don't think it really matters when as long as its preseason/season/playoffs.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I also think instead of 10 games, there should be a minimum number of minutes required before putting the player's salary back on the books against his previous team. Something like 200 minutes. That could be either 20 MPG over 10 games, or 2 MPG for 100 games.

In order to prove the player has indeed recovered from his "career ending" injury, either he should be able to play major minutes for a short period, or should be able to stick with a team long enough to collect a significant amount of garbage time minutes. Playing a guy the last 1:46 of a blowout does nothing to prove he still has a viable NBA career.

Also, preseason games should not count. They don't count for anything else. They don't in the standings, the stats don't count for the players' season or career averages. Why should they count in this case? Since the games are meaningless, teams would be more likely to give a medically retired player PT to screw over another team.

BNM

I'm with you on the preseason games, but I think 200 minutes is too high. There are plenty of players that have a career that don't get very many minutes at all. Personally, I would keep the 10 games as a measuring stick, just don't count the preseason games.

 

[alex42083]

Well.. the Miles watch is on tonight when Cleveland visits them. I'm thinking he gets his obligatory 2-3 minutes at the end in a blowout.