Blazers in NBA Rank

[NOVoodoo]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8377308/2012-nba-player-rankings-61-70

Batum just checked in at 63, leaving Aldridge the only Blazer that ESPN hasn't ranked yet.

63) Nicolas Batum
109) Wes Matthews
202) J.J. Hickson
211) Damian Lillard*
268) Jared Jeffries
330) Meyers Leonard*
338) Nolan Smith
357) Sasha Pavlovic
373) Ronnie Price
401) Luke Babbit
409) Will Barton
422) Elliott Williams

* - The rookies have really low rankings all across the board. I'm not sure why they even included them.

 

[santeesioux]

As bad as i think Luke Babbitt is, i don't know how Sasha is ahead of him.

 

[RR7]

They say it's on the current quality of the player. How in the hell can Oden be at 372. At least Babbitt can get on the floor and show a specific NBA skill. now.Same with a lot of the guys from 401-500.

 

[Rhal]

They say it's on the current quality of the player. How in the hell can Oden be at 372. At least Babbitt can get on the floor and show a specific NBA skill. now.Same with a lot of the guys from 401-500.

This list is always a joke, but this year it's not even on par with a joke. Lillard at 211 and MKG in the top 100?
I don't know how they do the list but it screams Ric Buchar

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[THE HCP]

We win 12 games next year!

 

[dviss1]

Guys who say anything positive about Babbit crack me the fuck up!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Take me out to pasture and shoot me.

A majority of the roster are in the 400's for fuck sakes.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Guys who say anything positive about Babbit crack me the fuck up!

You think Babbitt is worse than Pavlovic?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I think Babbitt could be useful if he played in D'Antoni's system.

Hell, he made a player out of Channing. With the pace/movement it allowed Channing to park outside the three-point line all game and turned into one of the games best outside shooters.

In fact, Channing racked up more DNP's his last year in Portland as Babbitt has.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

would be interesting to compare their ranking (with the rookies taken out) to last season's PER or EFF.

 

[THE HCP]

That was a quality NBA team Frye was bench warming for. A lot of talent!

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Lillard might move up a lot after next season.

 

[Haakzilla]

...do you think LMA will crack the top 25?!

 

[THE HCP]

Yes!

 

[Nate Dogg]

ESPN doesn't define "Quality of a player". Thats why I think PER is a better system.

This new ESPN ranking system is below Hollinger when he has a hangover and puking.

 

[PapaG]

I think Babbitt could be useful if he played in D'Antoni's system.

Hell, he made a player out of Channing. With the pace/movement it allowed Channing to park outside the three-point line all game and turned into one of the games best outside shooters.

In fact, Channing racked up more DNP's his last year in Portland as Babbitt has.

Babbit was useful in Nate's system. He should be better in Stotts' system.

 

[NOVoodoo]

I though this would be an interesting discussion point in the off-season lull, but as some of you have alluded to, these rankings should be taken with a grain of salt.

I happen to be good friends with one of the guys who voted in the "NBA Rank" this time around. He's a fraternity brother from back in the day, so I'm not going to publish his name, but I'll just say that he started watching basketball in general about three years before he got his first big writing job. I'd take any of your opinions on players over his.

With that said, it should be interesting to see where the Blazers stack in the composite team rankings. A lot of stock can be put in Lillard, but it seems like the general population thinks the rest of the roster is very below average. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Blazers come in the bottom three of the composite team rankings. It may mean nothing in terms of what the Blazers do on the court next season, but it's still an interesting discussion point none the less.

 

[HailBlazers]

You think Babbitt is worse than Pavlovic?

Yup.

 

[julius]

Take me out to pasture and shoot me.

A majority of the roster are in the 400's for fuck sakes.

3 out of 15 is a majority?

 

[dviss1]

You think Babbitt is worse than Pavlovic?

I don't care about either of them. They both will not be with the team next season. All they are is Cap Room IMO.

 

[NOVoodoo]

3 out of 15 is a majority?

Although it's not a majority, it doesn't seem like the analysts think much of the Blazers' players compared to other team's players. For example, the same analysts projected my Grizz to finish 6th in the West, yet we still have three players who have yet to be ranked. Most teams have had players scattered throughout the top half of the rankings, but it seems like most of the Blazers' players can be found in the bottom half. I know the Blazers are in rebuilding mode, but these numbers have to be discouraging, regardless of the validity of the rankings -

1-50: 1 player
51-100: 1 player
101-200: 1 player
200-300: 3 players
300-400: 4 players
400 - : 3 players

 

[jlprk]

Groups of 30 instead of 50 or 100 would be more instructive. On average, each team should have 1 player in each 30.

 

[NOVoodoo]

Groups of 30 instead of 50 or 100 would be more instructive. On average, each team should have 1 player in each 30.

Without Aldridge, who has yet to be ranked, here's how that shakes down -

1-30: ...
31-60: ...
61-90: 1 player (Batum)
91-120: 1 player (Matthews)
121-150: 0 players
151-180: 0 players
181-210: 1 player (Hickson)
211-230: 1 player (Lillard)
231-260: 0 players
261-290: 1 player (Jeffries)
291-320: 0 players
321-350: 2 players (Leonard and N. Smith)
351-380: 2 players (Pavlovic and Price)
381-410: 2 players (Babbit and Barton)
411+ (E. Williams)

Lillard and Leonard may be under-ranked, and rookies probably shouldn't have even been included in the rankings, but I'm just the guy posting the rankings, not the one voting on them.

I also think that one day, Elliot Williams will rise at least 200 spots above his current ranking. I know he was recently injured (again), but as someone from the basketball community in Memphis, I'm very confident in his abilities, more-so than guys like Thad Young or Adonis Thomas. He has all of the talent in the world, and I think it's too early to slap the "injury-prone" label on him. When he gets healthy, he's starting two guard material. I'd take a healthy Elliot over Will Barton in a second (coming from someone who has worked with the UM program).

 

[3RA1N1AC]

think lma goes top 10?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

think lma goes top 10?

My guess 15-17.

 

[jlprk]

Without Aldridge, who has yet to be ranked, here's how that shakes down -

1-30: ...
31-60: ...
61-90: 1 player (Batum)
91-120: 1 player (Matthews)
121-150: 0 players
151-180: 0 players
181-210: 1 player (Hickson)
211-230: 1 player (Lillard)
231-260: 0 players
261-290: 1 player (Jeffries)
291-320: 0 players
321-350: 2 players (Leonard and N. Smith)
351-380: 2 players (Pavlovic and Price)
381-410: 2 players (Babbit and Barton)
411+ (E. Williams)

Lillard and Leonard may be under-ranked, and rookies probably shouldn't have even been included in the rankings, but I'm just the guy posting the rankings, not the one voting on them.

I also think that one day, Elliot Williams will rise at least 200 spots above his current ranking. I know he was recently injured (again), but as someone from the basketball community in Memphis, I'm very confident in his abilities, more-so than guys like Thad Young or Adonis Thomas. He has all of the talent in the world, and I think it's too early to slap the "injury-prone" label on him. When he gets healthy, he's starting two guard material. I'd take a healthy Elliot over Will Barton in a second (coming from someone who has worked with the UM program).

Good job. I agree that Elliot has a spark that Will does not. So the chart says that we have 5 players in the top 11 tiers. That's almost like playing 11 on 5, when against an average team. Worse against the good teams.

 

[crowTrobot]

LMA #20

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8419506/2012-nba-player-rankings-16-20

 

[Rhal]

Figured he would be about there, don't like the fact Bosh is ahead of him but only a 2 spot discrepancy isn't that bad. The fact that is stupid to me is that Blake Griffin is going to make the top 15. I don't even think Love should make it that far into the top 15 but that is understandable but this anointment Griffin has been given is just disgusting.

 

[dviss1]

Figured he would be about their, don't like the fact Bosh is ahead of him but only a 2 spot discrepancy isn't that bad. The fact that is stupid to me is that Blake Griffin is going to make the top 15. I don't even think Love should make it that far into the top 15 but that is understandable but this anointment Griffin has been given is just disgusting.

Truth. Especially since LA DESTROYS Blake, Love, Bosh, and Gashole every time we play them.

 

[THE HCP]

^Really bro...... you bust out the 1 time?