Zombie Blazers Interested in Amare Stoudemire

[Nikolokolus]

i would like to see what martell can do at SF before settling for someone who might not improve us at all.

also as i said in the other thread sessions is not better than blake.

their game's are completely different. Sessions is actually able to get into the lane, whereas Blake has pretty much settled into a Steve Kerr (hit the open three on kickouts) role playing alongside Brandon. I don't really feel like arguing over it, I guess I'll just have to say I respectfully disagree.

 

[crowTrobot]

Well, if he was having an up year, we wouldn't be able to get him on the cheap.

He's not really having a bad year though

for him he obviously is. yes it might an aberration rather than decline, but i think the risk isn't worth giving up our cap space and giving up on webster.

 

[B-Roy]

Blake is having a career year in which he's about average for a starter. Sessions' PER (both this year and last) is still higher than Blake's this year, and Sessions is only 22 so may improve significantly. Right this moment, Sessions is probably only a little bit better than Blake, but he's definitely the significantly more valuable asset going forward.

I don't know about Sessions' defense, but Blake's defense is quite poor, so I doubt Sessions is hurt, in this comparison, by defense.

I follow Sessions a lot, and his defense is really nothing to write home about. He's probably as good as Blake, and better than Sergio. Nothing special, but as a 22 year old, he has room to grow.

What I REALLY like about him though, is that he has amazing court vision. He finds people you wouldn't expect him to find. I wouldn't say he's Paul good (yet ), but I liken him to Sergio in that regard. However, he has a better jump shot than Sergio and is a better finisher, although he too can take a few bad shots at times. He drives the lane and gets free throws, so he's kind of like a combo between Sergio/Bayless....which is strange to think about.

 

[B-Roy]

for him he obviously is. yes it might an aberration rather than decline, but i think the risk isn't worth giving up our cap space and giving up on webster.

Well, if you'd chose to look at his stats you'd see that they're barely down. Is he having a worse year? Definately, but you also have to consider the circumstances that he's been put in, in Milwaukee. He's asked to be the first option because Michael Redd was injured for most of the first half, and is now out for the season, and he's clearly uncomfortable in that role. He'd be the third option in Portland.

He's not declining, he's 28. Get a grip. We're buying low because that team is screwed for the season.

Oh and Milwaukee fans seem content on letting him go for just RLEC and a pick, so you don't have to trade Webster.

 

[crowTrobot]

Blake is having a career year in which he's about average for a starter. Sessions' PER (both this year and last) is still higher than Blake's this year, and Sessions is only 22 so may improve significantly.

we already have a PG with potential who can get into the lane but is shaky from range, and he's only 20. right now the blazers needs outside shooting more than penetration.

Sessions is probably only a little bit better than Blake, but he's definitely the significantly more valuable asset going forward.

which is fine if we are stockpiling assets for later trades, but otherwise i don't see the point.

 

[crowTrobot]

Well, if you'd chose to look at his stats you'd see that they're barely down.

prior to this year he was career .475 shooter, for the year .422. also current PER 13.9 which is pretty dismal, and has a career low TS%. it's a little more than barely.

He's not declining.

he is. your hypothesis is it's only due to lack of interest/effort, but you don't know that for a fact and that's a chance you're taking trading for him.

Oh and Milwaukee fans seem content on letting him go for just RLEC and a pick

which should tell you something about the value of his contributions this year.

so you don't have to trade Webster.

but you do have to cut webster's minutes significantly (and batum's completely).

 

[B-Roy]

prior to this year he was career .475 shooter, for the year .422. also current PER 13.9 which is pretty dismal, and has a career low TS%. it's a little more than barely.

He's in a screwed up Milwaukee team that's trying to make him the first option.

he is. your hypothesis is it's only due to lack of interest/effort, but you don't know that for a fact and that's a chance you're taking trading for him.

Of course, but that's why it's a risk. Earlier in the year, would you have said trading for Iguodala would be a bad idea because he was having a significantly down season? (He's picked it up now)

which should tell you something about the value of his contributions this year.

It's more that he's being paid a lot and the Bucks aren't going to make the offseason anymore because of all the injuries.

but you do have to cut webster's minutes significantly (and batum's completely).

He's here for two more years. Like I said, he's keeping the starting position warm.

Plus you could trade Webster/Batum for something else if you felt the need.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I'd give up anyone on our roster except Roy for Amare... but probably wouldnt have to give up Greg or Aldridge to get him due to the importance of Raef's contract.

Sergio or Outlaw, draft pick, Raef for Amare? probably not enough.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Amare does not come across as a good team guy and Roy and Aldridge are developing a solid chemistry between the two . . . it would be a msitake to break those two up. But if the Suns are looking to trim salary, Blazers have their answer . . . three way deal?

I would think Calderon, but the one thing the raptors don't need is a PF. Rondo with Amare going to the Celtics . . . how scary would that be?

 

[ehizzy3]

Amare does not come across as a good team guy and Roy and Aldridge are developing a solid chemistry between the two . . . it would be a msitake to break those two up. But if the Suns are looking to trim salary, Blazers have their answer . . . three way deal?

I would think Calderon, but the one thing the raptors don't need is a PF. Rondo with Amare going to the Celtics . . . how scary would that be?

 

[JE]

Rondo with Amare going to the Celtics . . . how scary would that be?

WHAT?


No, thank you.

 

[BrianFromWA]

People keep including "and our pick" when talking about possibly trading with PHX.

Somehow I think Ike's 3M expiring contract is more valuable to PHX than the #22 pick...unless they plan on selling it right back to us for 3M.

 

[barfo]

People keep including "and our pick" when talking about possibly trading with PHX.

Somehow I think Ike's 3M expiring contract is more valuable to PHX than the #22 pick...unless they plan on selling it right back to us for 3M.

That's actually a very good idea. That allows us to give them $6 million in the trade.

I still haven't heard of a team that wants to get rid of a top level SF and would want Amare, however.

barfo

 

[Денг Гордон]

If it comes down to expirings/young prospects, Bulls should have this won...Kerr being a former Bull is just the cherry on top. Portland is at the obvious disadvantage being in the same conference.

But the Heat could step up and offer Michael Beasley and the Blazers could step up and offer LaMarcus Aldrdige, which would blow the Bulls out of the water. But I don't see those two guys being offered.

Pistons, I don't think have the right mix of talent, because I doubt they'd give up Stuckey in the trade.

 

[Minstrel]

If it comes down to expirings/young prospects, Bulls should have this won

Unless Chicago is willing to pony up Derrick Rose, I think Portland can offer a better package of expiring contracts and young players even without involving Roy/Oden/Aldridge, if that's all Phoenix wants.

But I don't think Phoenix is ready to trade Stoudemire for pennies on the dollar. I'm sure they want a young star player in return.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

If it comes down to expirings/young prospects, Bulls should have this won...Kerr being a former Bull is just the cherry on top. Portland is at the obvious disadvantage being in the same conference.

I can't see the Suns trading a cornerstone like Amare for mediocre prospects like Noah and Tyrus. Young or not neither of these guys even come close to making up for the hole Amare will leave in Phoenix. The Bulls are making a strong push but I don't think anything will get done as ESPN reported the Suns want an expiring with a great young prospect. Something the Bulls don't have unless they are trading Rose.

 

[barfo]

If it comes down to expirings/young prospects, Bulls should have this won...Kerr being a former Bull is just the cherry on top.

Kerr is a former Blazer, also.

barfo

 

[MAS RipCity]

No thanks on Amare..we would have too many mouths to feed.

 

[Karl Malone's Elbows]

How about a 3-way with Phoenix and Detroit bringing Stucky and Prince to Portland?

 

[MAS RipCity]

Detroit is not trading Stuckey, he is one of the reasons they felt okay trading away Chauncey

 

[Karl Malone's Elbows]

Detroit is not trading Stuckey, he is one of the reasons they felt okay trading away Chauncey

Yeah, well they didn't know they'd have a chance at Amare either.

 

[beast blazer]

Interesting

 

[Mediocre Man]

Interesting

10 years ago it was interesting.

Is this the bump of all bumps?

 

[PCmor7]

Zombie of all zombie topics.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Why the ever-loving fuck do people insist on bumping all these fucking goddamned zombie threads?

 

[Dougnsalem]

No, no, this is cool. I got to give @Fawzi83 his first like! I mean, well.... I guess he hasn't been here for 7 1/2 years, but he'll be back soon. Maybe.

 

[SwissBlazer]

Interesting

Don't do that.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Why the ever-loving fuck do people insist on bumping all these fucking goddamned zombie threads?

I'm being totally serious when I say it's ban worthy. Fucking annoying

 

[bradk8605]

Could be a possibility.....

 

[Natebishop3]

Ban.