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I said Boozer is better than them. Is their something outrageous about that?

"Outrageous?" No. But him being marginally better than either guy isn't anything to hang your hat on either.
 
"Outrageous?" No. But him being marginally better than either guy isn't anything to hang your hat on either.

All I simply said was he was better than both players. You seem to be hung up on this for some reason.
 
All I simply said was he was better than both players. You seem to be hung up on this for some reason.

"hung up?" No, I just disagree with your general premise and I wrote something to that effect. I think the difference between those three guys is minuscule enough to barely noticeable.
 
I agree with RT . . . Williams, Matthews, Boozer (and Milsap) would have been an awesome Utah team and could have challenged the lakers, IMO. Utah could have had that if they were aggressive.
 
Interesting that we did not play that well on offense and still won the last three qtr's.
 
"hung up?" No, I just disagree with your general premise and I wrote something to that effect. I think the difference between those three guys is minuscule enough to barely noticeable.

Boozer started in front of Millsap for a reason. He's a more talented offensive player and a much better rebounder.

Jefferson isn't nearly as efficient on offense as Boozer is. Not close to the PnR threat Boozer was either. Good rebounder but not nearly as good as since before his injury. Boozer is a better than him in that category as well.

I'd say the difference between Boozer and the other two is more then "minuscule". He's not "much better"(like you claimed I said), but he is in fact a better player.
 
Boozer started in front of Millsap for a reason. He's a more talented offensive player and a much better rebounder.

Jefferson isn't nearly as efficient on offense as Boozer is. Not close to the PnR threat Boozer was either. Good rebounder but not nearly as good as since before his injury. Boozer is a better than him in that category as well.

I'd say the difference between Boozer and the other two is more then "minuscule". He's not "much better"(like you claimed I said), but he is in fact a better player.

Hey this will make you feel better. "You win."

I just realized comparing Jazz front-court players of the past and present just isn't holding my attention like I thought it would.
 
Talking about Jefferson and Milsap; we must have done something right because even without Pryzbilla and Camby, those guys did not do much. And I'm a little surprised to be saying this, but at this point I think Jerry Sloan would gladly give us Milsap AND Jefferson for Aldridge and I wouldn't have to think for a second about turning him down.

Wesley and Rudy were really moving without the ball first half! Slowed down some in the second half; maybe their zone had something to do with that.

Utah announcers are really great.
 
i missed the game i know camby hurt his ankle but did they say if it was broken or anything?
 
I agree with RT . . . Williams, Matthews, Boozer (and Milsap) would have been an awesome Utah team and could have challenged the lakers, IMO. Utah could have had that if they were aggressive.

Those 5 got swept by the Lakers last season and would get swept again this season because the Lakers are taller upfront.
 
I think Camby going down may be a huge plus for the Blazers going forward. You saw how well the team played without him. It may seem to defy common sense, but it really does make sense. The guy gives you good rebounding numbers, but he's old and slow and horrible on defense these days. With him out, you end up playing some young guy with some energy and the ability go play on more of the court. The only problem with the young guy is he's not going to be as "consistent."

I saw the game, it was a great win for the Blazers.
 
And our performance further supports the idea of putting LA @ C full time. He was clownin fools in the post.
 
And our performance further supports the idea of putting LA @ C full time. He was clownin fools in the post.

Why does he have to be the center to get in the post? Or are you talking about having Camby play in the PF area to his center area?
 
And our performance further supports the idea of putting LA @ C full time. He was clownin fools in the post.

I don't think we can play him full time at center with our current roster. (we would need one more longer PF to play along side of him. But I agree he is playing best right now when he is at center and the PF is helping spread the floor. I like small ball in the 4th. Both Batum and Dante are doing fine in that roll.
 
Why does he have to be the center to get in the post? Or are you talking about having Camby play in the PF area to his center area?

I meant "C" as in our biggest player on the floor. He seems to play more aggressively and more inside when that is the case.
 
When Camby went down last night, I gulped and thought, "Well, so much for that game." But the team seemed so much quicker out there without him. Different guys were going for loose balls. Defensive rotations were faster. The offense seemed to have more movement.

They had Milsap and Jefferson, we had Aldridge and Dante Cunningham. Common sense says we'd just get overpowered, but that's not how it played out. Portland probably out-rebounds Utah even if Camby didn't suit up.

Aldridge just seems to be more active when he's at the center position. He seems more aggressive in the offense, and he becomes a much better shot blocker and rebounder. And his speed makes him a matchup problem for other teams' true centers.
 
Boozer started in front of Millsap for a reason. He's a more talented offensive player and a much better rebounder.

Jefferson isn't nearly as efficient on offense as Boozer is. Not close to the PnR threat Boozer was either. Good rebounder but not nearly as good as since before his injury. Boozer is a better than him in that category as well.

I'd say the difference between Boozer and the other two is more then "minuscule". He's not "much better"(like you claimed I said), but he is in fact a better player.

I don't think most folks understand that both of those forwards, are undersized in today's nba as well. It was pretty obvious against LA that they didn't have the size to match up, either of the last few years. If they kept Boozer, that was never going to change. Boozer is a good player. But as long as Boston and LA have their huge front lines, I don't see him as being a starter on a team that wins it all, unless you team him up with some real size. Milsap is also undersized as well. More so than Boozer. He plays with a lot of heart and effort. But that doesn't do you a lot of good when you get posted up by a 7 foot PF opposition.
 

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