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I really enjoy watching CJ play. Same reason I like Dame and Roy before that. I just love players who can stop on a dime, pull up and hit the soft pull up J. You would think he would have trouble getting the shot off because of his height, but he is very crafty.
 
Our offense was terrible at the start of the game; missed shots and bonehead turnovers. Those things happen, but I wondered if the team was starting to panic some and do too much when the first few shots didn't fall. For those of you who missed the game we literally had something like 3 points half way through the first, just lucky Sac was cold too.

CJ - Great game, I feel fine with his as our full time backup PG. I didn't think the teams slow start had anything to do with him at PG; he always brought the ball up fine and passed it to start the offense. In real games we'll have Dame set the tone so we only need CJ to spend those ~10mpg there. I like the idea of him on the court with a pair of tall wings who can defend, slash, and shoot. If I had to nitpick I'd say there was a three that was too deep and another time he could've passed to teammates early in the shot clock instead of taking his own shot.

Meyers - Excellent jump shooting as always but his post moves are terrible. He can dribble and drive more than you expect but not sure what the point is as he gets out of control and can't score. When teams start sticking a defender on him I question what else he can provide. His shooting and pick and pop are so deadly though that might be enough.

Plumlee - Has good handles and passing but needs to get a bit more under control and not jump in the air before he knows who to pass to. If we aren't fast breaking he losses a lot of value. If we are fast breaking he's a game changer. I'm not sure about his rim protection.

Ed Davis - Missed a lot of shots he normally makes. He is probably the best big man defensively, not that he's elite. I wonder if Plumlee would be better running fast breaks with the second unit and Ed defending the middle with the first. We did play the pair of Davis and Plumlee which worked fine and might be something to try for brief stretches against second units.

Vonleh - Great physical tools but was rushed on his shots near the rim. Needs some patience and use his body to clear space or get the foul.

Aminu - Impressive defender. Made some three's and a drive but he's not the first option you want shooting. He took 6 threes. I guess you don't want him to be passive but we have better offensive options. I'd like to see him at PF but we have 4 bigs I want to see play too.

Pat - Great rebounding and more confident with his offense. Was able to dribble the ball in sets.

Pressey - Terrible, over dribbled, tried to shoot to much, bad passes; he probably gets a chance in one more game but his odds of surviving the cut aren't good.
Montero - Came in at the end and had bad defense, two dumb turnovers, provided nothing.
Omari - Even worse just cut all three of these guys.
 
Meyers has value in that you can't double off of him when he's out at the 3 point line. When he's picking for Dame or CJ, that's a huge win for the play. His picks are way more valuable than the exact same pick set by LaMarcus last year.
 
Montero is RAW. Pressey isn't considered RAW.

Pressey had 3 years of NCAA level basketball under his belt, and shot shitty back then too. I don't think he's all the sudden going to show great improvement. The Blazers already have an undersized 3rd string PG (Fraizer), I don't see any reason to keep two. And I don't see any reason to keep him over a player that they KNOW is RAW and wasn't going to make much of an impact this year or even next.
 
Missed the second half but looks like CJ went into ISO mode...I think Meyers had 1 rebound ..having 3 guys scoring 12, 13 and 30 is pretty sad. I thought PC looked like a basketball player in the first half. Aminu is just getting his feet wet with this team, so I give him a break
 
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The overall results, especially since Dame did not play, where impressive. There were a lot of unselfish players buying into a team concept. The more unselfish games this roster plays; the better the execution will develop and improve as the season progresses.

It appears we could have a very good fast break team.

Need to see more driving paint penetration that results in drawing fouls.

Not sure Stott’s system needs a pure BUPG, the assists where distributed throughout the roster, again unselfish play.

Lots of greasy fingers and lose balls. Have the trainer buy a case of the sticky spray the football players use. (Is that legal in the NBA?)

Good effort, even on D, no nose pickers on our roster.

I am going to raise my win projection to 24 for the season.
 
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I'm just glad it's only preseason..nobody has blown us out yet and we beat the champs with their best players on the court. Last night we missed Dame
 
Now for all those upset with me, for being so down on this team...... I don't hold Vonlah's fantastic 1st game too high and I promise I won't hold Aminu's turnover parade so far too low. Preseason is a glorified summer league.


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CJ is much more Roy than Lillard. Off balance two pointers, great at creating space, and a knack for getting to the rim using change of pace and off balance dribble moves. He will never have Roys size, athleticism, or vision but he's a better three point shooter. Good player for sure.
 
BBert said:
It's funny to read on several threads people's consternation with CJ going ISO. That was him his entire college career.

I still like him better than No-Mo or Crawford.
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Good comparisons. I think last night was somewhat of a result of Lillard being out. I just can't see Dame allowing CJ to make ISO his entire game and I don't see CJ bucking Dame's leadership. The past two years have had to be extremely frustrating for CJ and hopefully, he's just getting some of that out of his system. He's smart enough to know he's going to get plenty of chances this year without having to be a selfish prick about it....
 
On Al-Farouq - his jump shot looks better than I remember but he kind of has tunnel vision and likes to operate outside of his skill set. Ideally, he should probably play to his strengths - defense, hitting the open shot, making the smart pass and the occasional drive. However it's very probable that Stotts is giving him the freedom to make plays in order to try and tap into his potential. A bunch of mistakes this season is fine in the grand scheme of things. Not like we're winning much anyways.

But man, if Batums turnovers were aggravating, Farouqs are going to be hair pulling.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Good comparisons. I think last night was somewhat of a result of Lillard being out. I just can't see Dame allowing CJ to make ISO his entire game and I don't see CJ bucking Dame's leadership. The past two years have had to be extremely frustrating for CJ and hopefully, he's just getting some of that out of his system. He's smart enough to know he's going to get plenty of chances this year without having to be a selfish prick about it....
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CJ has the ability to take over the ball and put the play on his back. That's a good skill to have. IMO, he's also much more willing and able to play team ball than the-two-who-shall-not-be-named. And his defense is legions better than the last bench chucker we had. When CJ is on the floor with Dame, he'll be just fine. When CJ is playing against the other teams' reserves, he has the ability and probably the green light to score from anywhere, anytime. Mini-Brandon is a good comparison.

:cheers:
 
oldfisherman said:
Not sure Stott’s system needs a pure BUPG, the assists where distributed throughout the roster, again unselfish play.
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You may be right. As long as he prepares his team for the trapping defenses that will be coming.
 
So when does GrandpaBlaze post his game prediction results? I haven't had breakfast yet and I'm ready for my hearty serving of crow......I had us winning 122-103. Can I get a side of eggs and hash browns with that???
 
I watched about 3/4 of the game last night. What I saw were several talented player wearing the Blazer uniform, but I saw none playing basketball. Individuals taking turns playing with a basketball but no sign of a basketball team. Very much like a D league game. Very disappointing. I saw someone's comment earlier in this thread about preseason being just like a summer league game.
Yep, it was, summer league, D league, what have you. The difference though is, we are suppose to have a professional NBA coach running this team, attempting to fit 5 men into a potentially successful basketball system. No evidence of that happening, instead we are treated to individuals probing or just shooting, taking turns, nice and orderly. Eight games of this, and 82 more won't produce well executing team anymore than the same drill last year.
Portland will just do it with different names on the uniforms again.
 
HCP said:
Now for all those upset with me, for being so down on this team...... I don't hold Vonlah's fantastic 1st game too high and I promise I won't hold Aminu's turnover parade so far too low. Preseason is a glorified summer league.


Sent from my Baller-Ass 5.5" iPhone 6+......... FAMS
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You let the offseason moves get you too low.
 
HCP said:
Now for all those upset with me, for being so down on this team...... I don't hold Vonlah's fantastic 1st game too high and I promise I won't hold Aminu's turnover parade so far too low. Preseason is a glorified summer league.


Sent from my Baller-Ass 5.5" iPhone 6+......... FAMS
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See, that's the thing...preseason is the first chance to see any semblance of a Blazer roster play basketball and after a long off season...a little glorification goes a long ways...it's never too early to bring some swagger to the team.
 
MarAzul said:
I watched about 3/4 of the game last night. What I saw were several talented player wearing the Blazer uniform, but I saw none playing basketball. Individuals taking turns playing with a basketball but no sign of a basketball team. Very much like a D league game. Very disappointing. I saw someone's comment earlier in this thread about preseason being just like a summer league game.
Yep, it was, summer league, D league, what have you. The difference though is, we are suppose to have a professional NBA coach running this team, attempting to fit 5 men into a potentially successful basketball system. No evidence of that happening, instead we are treated to individuals probing or just shooting, taking turns, nice and orderly. Eight games of this, and 82 more won't produce well executing team anymore than the same drill last year.
Portland will just do it with different names on the uniforms again.
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Last night was the clumbsy game of the 3 so far..no Dame, no Harkless or Henderson ..I really enjoyed the team play in game 1 and 2...only saw half a game last night and it was ugly..out of sync but we lost by 4 pts to a veteran NBA team with a veteran coach and you can't ignore that ...pretty far from D league play..these guys do play team defense..
 
Defensive rotations are the best I've seen in ages..quick rotations and help is always there. Love seeing the defensive improvement. Good to keep in mind these guys haven't played a lot of basketball together and just beat the world champs..and really beat them.
 
riverman said:
Defensive rotations are the best I've seen in ages..quick rotations and help is always there. Love seeing the defensive improvement. Good to keep in mind these guys haven't played a lot of basketball together and just beat the world champs..and really beat them.
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Spot on, partner. I would like to see our boys create more turnovers and score more on the fastbreak opportunities. That is a work in progress.

With that said, our team may not make the playoffs and I can live with that if they continue building upon a good defensive foundation they are setting. That'll help in the next 2 to 3 years when they go on their own playoff run to the top!
 
BBert said:
It's funny to read on several threads people's consternation with CJ going ISO. That was him his entire college career.

I still like CJ better than No-Mo or Crawford.
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Oh come on Cj is the same player as Mo was. They literally have no difference other than Cj has better handles
 
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