Notice Blazers, Kings Should Avoid Jusuf Nurkic

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.blazersedge.com/platfor...urkic-portland-trail-blazers-sacramento-kings

Dan Favale of Bleacher Report warns Sacramento and Portland against buying into one of the best free agent centers on the market.

Portland Trail Blazers center Jusuf Nurkic will be one of the better pivots to hit NBA Free Agencythis July, but not everybody is convinced of the value of the restricted free agent to his current team or prospective suitors. Writing for Bleacher Report, Dan Favale warns the Blazers and the Sacramento Kings that spending big bucks on the Bosnian Beast might not be worth the eventual payoff.

First Favale waves off Portland from their own guy, saying they have better options available.

Voluntarily moving on from Jusuf Nurkic toes the line of bold for the Blazers, but they’re on the verge of paying a massive luxury-tax bill. They shouldn’t be giving a significant sum of money to a big who can be played off the floor by more mobile 5s.

Retaining Ed Davis should come much cheaper, and the Blazers also have Zach Collins, who should be playing more minutes at center. That duo will get them by without nuking the bank.

Then Favale cautions that the Kings can’t afford to spend money and can’t afford to miss, making Nurkic a risky prospect.

Upgrading to a more polished center will hold a certain appeal. Jusuf Nurkic isn’t the most efficient back-to-the-basket scorer (he placed in the 27th percentile of post-up efficiency), but he’s comfortable in a higher usage role. And he just helped helm one of the NBA’s top rim defenses for an entire season.

Nurkic won’t turn 24 until August, so his window doesn’t run counter to the Kings’ timeline. The Blazers’ cap situation only makes him easier to steal. They’re up against the luxury tax, and he’s not a sure thing like Clint Capelaor Nikola Jokic (team option).

Still, the Kings should distance themselves from Nurkic or any other big who figures to cost more than the non-taxpayer mid-level exception. Their young fliers aren’t throwaways, and Nurkic’s rim protection won’t seem as heavenly outside Portland’s conservative, behemoth friendly scheme.

The article covers dangerous signing for all 30 NBA Teams.

Nurkic averaged 14.3 points and 9.0 rebounds in 26.4 minutes of play for the Trail Blazers last season, shooting 50.5% from the field. All those numbers except field goal percentage (50.7% in 2016-17) represented career highs for the fourth-year center.

 

[julius]

I want them to retain Nurk, BUT...

A: If someone offers him a max contract (or an outrageous audio one)
2. If he doesn't work on his consistency and going up aggressively...

Then I say don't re-sign him. C'est la vie.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I really like Ed Davis as a back up center, but I think Nurkic has potential to be a better center overall than Ed. I’d like them to keep both, I am worried of over paying Nurkic, but he improves the teams defense so much. Seems lik Nurkic even with his faults makes the Blazers better, and so they should try to keep him...

 

[BonesJones]

I really like Ed Davis as a back up center, but I think Nurkic has potential to be a better center overall than Ed. I’d like them to keep both, I am worried of over paying Nurkic, but he improves the teams defense so much. Seems lik Nurkic even with his faults makes the Blazers better, and so they should try to keep him...

He already is better.

After the break, he averaged 20/14/2.5 (per 36) on 55% shooting with elite rim protection. He's 23. And the author thinks we shouldn't resign him because were already paying Meyers Leonard and Evan Turner.

It's stupid to suggest we shouldn't bring Nurk back.

 

[tykendo]

https://www.blazersedge.com/platfor...urkic-portland-trail-blazers-sacramento-kings

Dan Favale of Bleacher Report warns Sacramento and Portland against buying into one of the best free agent centers on the market.

Portland Trail Blazers center Jusuf Nurkic will be one of the better pivots to hit NBA Free Agencythis July, but not everybody is convinced of the value of the restricted free agent to his current team or prospective suitors. Writing for Bleacher Report, Dan Favale warns the Blazers and the Sacramento Kings that spending big bucks on the Bosnian Beast might not be worth the eventual payoff.

First Favale waves off Portland from their own guy, saying they have better options available.

Voluntarily moving on from Jusuf Nurkic toes the line of bold for the Blazers, but they’re on the verge of paying a massive luxury-tax bill. They shouldn’t be giving a significant sum of money to a big who can be played off the floor by more mobile 5s.

Retaining Ed Davis should come much cheaper, and the Blazers also have Zach Collins, who should be playing more minutes at center. That duo will get them by without nuking the bank.

Then Favale cautions that the Kings can’t afford to spend money and can’t afford to miss, making Nurkic a risky prospect.

Upgrading to a more polished center will hold a certain appeal. Jusuf Nurkic isn’t the most efficient back-to-the-basket scorer (he placed in the 27th percentile of post-up efficiency), but he’s comfortable in a higher usage role. And he just helped helm one of the NBA’s top rim defenses for an entire season.

Nurkic won’t turn 24 until August, so his window doesn’t run counter to the Kings’ timeline. The Blazers’ cap situation only makes him easier to steal. They’re up against the luxury tax, and he’s not a sure thing like Clint Capelaor Nikola Jokic (team option).

Still, the Kings should distance themselves from Nurkic or any other big who figures to cost more than the non-taxpayer mid-level exception. Their young fliers aren’t throwaways, and Nurkic’s rim protection won’t seem as heavenly outside Portland’s conservative, behemoth friendly scheme.

The article covers dangerous signing for all 30 NBA Teams.

Nurkic averaged 14.3 points and 9.0 rebounds in 26.4 minutes of play for the Trail Blazers last season, shooting 50.5% from the field. All those numbers except field goal percentage (50.7% in 2016-17) represented career highs for the fourth-year center.[/QUOTE"OTE]

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

He already is better.

After the break, he averaged 20/14/2.5 (per 36) on 55% shooting with elite rim protection. He's 23. And the author thinks we shouldn't resign him because were already paying Meyers Leonard and Evan Turner.

It's stupid to suggest we shouldn't bring Nurk back.

I have two worries with Nurkic, how can he solve the problem of being locked in? The Blazers got him because he gave up in Denver, and he has had stretches in Portland where he’s looked disinterested.
The other is he can be a turnover machine at times, from sloppy ball handling, to bad passes, or a lack of post moves he can’t hand the ball over so much.

I hope they can get him for 15M or less.

 

[tykendo]

"Collins should be playing more minutes at center", that's total BS. He's a PF, with the upside of LaMarcus Aldridge, IMO, but he's NOT A CENTER. He'd get eaten alive by the more physical centers in the league. The Blazers MUST re-sign Nurk. I swear these media guys want the Blazers to fail, and fall into oblivion. The Blazers need to keep Nurk and develop him.

 

[Pinwheel1]

He already is better.

After the break, he averaged 20/14/2.5 (per 36) on 55% shooting with elite rim protection. He's 23. And the author thinks we shouldn't resign him because were already paying Meyers Leonard and Evan Turner.

It's stupid to suggest we shouldn't bring Nurk back.

Agreed. I mean you don't want to go crazy and over pay him, but you don' t not sign a player that you like just because the luxury tax hit. And as far as I can remember that has never been a obstacle for PA.

 

[tykendo]

I have two worries with Nurkic, how can he solve the problem of being locked in? The Blazers got him because he gave up in Denver, and he has had stretches in Portland where he’s looked disinterested.
The other is he can be a turnover machine at times, from sloppy ball handling, to bad passes, or a lack of post moves he can’t hand the ball over so much.

I hope they can get him for 15M or less.

He's still maturing as a man, and a player. Yes he has done some silly things, but he has everything there to become a dominant center in this league. Funny how other young players on other teams need to mature and develop, but if they're on the Blazers, they should be let go so the Blazers can become irrelevant.

 

[BonesJones]

I have two worries with Nurkic, how can he solve the problem of being locked in? The Blazers got him because he gave up in Denver, and he has had stretches in Portland where he’s looked disinterested.
The other is he can be a turnover machine at times, from sloppy ball handling, to bad passes, or a lack of post moves he can’t hand the ball over so much.

I hope they can get him for 15M or less.

If he solves the problem of not being locked in all the time thanbhed be a Top 5 center in the league. Why would we give up on That? He's 23. There's a lot of room for growth, and he'll figure out the game mentally as he matures, and he'll be a beast.

 

[KingSpeed]

He already is better.

After the break, he averaged 20/14/2.5 (per 36) on 55% shooting with elite rim protection. He's 23. And the author thinks we shouldn't resign him because were already paying Meyers Leonard and Evan Turner.

It's stupid to suggest we shouldn't bring Nurk back.

Sounds like the whole article is a Blazers fan telling the whole league not to make a big offer so that we can get him cheap.

 

[BlazerWookee]

WTF does "toes the line of bold" mean?

 

[BonesJones]

Sounds like the whole article is a Blazers fan telling the whole league not to make a big offer so that we can get him cheap.

If that's the case than that fan is absolutely delusional to think the "whole league" will read his crap.

 

[tykendo]

Agreed. I mean you don't want to go crazy and over pay him, but you don' t not sign a player that you like just because the luxury tax hit. And as far as I can remember that has never been a obstacle for PA.

Agree, but the Blazers can write language into the contract that will protect themselves if he doesn't put the effort forward to become all he can be. It will be a HUGE mistake to just let him walk. If you get gun shy as a franchise because you've made a few mistakes, then you're doomed to fail. Nurk is not Meyers Leonard.

 

[jlprk]

If anyone still wonders why I've said all season that McCollum has to go...This Nurkic salary squeeze is just the first of many, until McCollum goes. Leonard and Turner are untradeable, so that leaves McCollum.

Keep Nurkic.

 

[BonesJones]

If anyone still wonders why I've said all season that McCollum has to go...This Nurkic salary squeeze is just the first of many, until McCollum goes. Leonard and Turner are untradeable, so that leaves McCollum.

Keep Nurkic.

Lmao... Silly logic man. Silly, silly logic.

 

[jlprk]

Well, I'm also a little biased in that I have always thought McCollum was overrated. So I look for financial reasons to motivate us to trade, before the rest of the league catches on and his trade value flattens (which is my real reason).

 

[Sarni]

I definitely wouldn’t give him a max contract. Having CJ, Dame and Nurk take $80M a year would basically mean we would be locked to this roster for the next three years. It’s not a roster that can compete for the championship.

 

[BonesJones]

I definitely wouldn’t give him a max contract. Having CJ, Dame and Nurk take $80M a year would basically mean we would be locked to this roster for the next three years. It’s not a roster that can compete for the championship.

There's no way he's getting a max so I don't see a hypothetical where we don't bring him back.

 

[bobf]

It's not as if good players are easy to find or falling in the Blazers' lap. Had we listened to adj +/- we never would have made the hugely idiotic Turner mistake. Nurk's offense is inept but he's young and it's getting better. His defense is elite. Keep Nurk.

 

[riverman]

The article is a Blazers edge plant to lower his value.......sign Nurk...why they are concerned about the Kings is a bit baffling

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I love the logic that says Nurkic gets played off the floor by more mobile centers, but Collins gets eaten alive by physical centers. Why can't the mobile Collins play slower-footed centers off the floor, or Nurkic eat less physical centers alive? Is it just assumed that neither Nurkic nor Collins are capable of improving their offensive abilities to the point where they can create mismatch problems for opponents?

 

[blue9]

WTF does "toes the line of bold" mean?

Replace "bold" with "stupid". And then delete "toes the line".

 

[Pinwheel1]

If anyone still wonders why I've said all season that McCollum has to go...This Nurkic salary squeeze is just the first of many, until McCollum goes. Leonard and Turner are untradeable, so that leaves McCollum.

Keep Nurkic.

Weren't you the one who said Crabbe was untradeable without throwing in a 1st?

Like I alluded to in the other post, if Paul likes Nurk then Paul will match to keep Nurk, just like he has done in the past for players that were not even as important as Nurk. He has no history of ever losing a starting player because of money. Never say never, but I highly doubt it will happen with Nurk.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I agree, if we don't sign Nurkic we should avoid him. He is very big and will be very angry.

His father too.

 

[e_blazer]

Dan Favale's LinkedIn page:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-favale-6a431628

Dan Favale's picture:

So, pretty much the same or less qualifications to comment on Nurk's re-signing as any of us basement-dwellers.

 

[AFully22]

I love the logic that says Nurkic gets played off the floor by more mobile centers, but Collins gets eaten alive by physical centers. Why can't the mobile Collins play slower-footed centers off the floor, or Nurkic eat less physical centers alive? Is it just assumed that neither Nurkic nor Collins are capable of improving their offensive abilities to the point where they can create mismatch problems for opponents?

Nurk couldn’t create mismatch problems for smaller centers because he is way too inefficient in the post, which you’re saying he will improve on I get it. But Nurkic will have to get a whole lot better in the post for it to be worth keeping him on the floor against smaller centers because just dumping it in to him against a smaller center doesn’t have the same affect on an offense as a mobile center being able to dribble drive past Nurk or make him tightly guard around the perimeter. The mobile 5 opens up more for the offense and unless Nurk demands double teams in the post and he can find the open teammates then you’re just taking away the two best players on the team in favor of Nurk post ups, which opposing teams would love.

Teams having been going small, especially in the playoffs, for years there’s a reason why teams haven’t had huge success staying big. It doesn’t have the same cumulative affect. Collins on the other hand I see no reason why he can’t play the 4 and 5 like AD, and I’m not saying he’s AD, his strength and weight can just get to that level pretty easy.

 

[1eyejack]

If anyone still wonders why I've said all season that McCollum has to go...This Nurkic salary squeeze is just the first of many, until McCollum goes. Leonard and Turner are untradeable, so that leaves McCollum.

Keep Nurkic.

I think we have to attach this years pick to Leonard and ship him off.

 

[jlprk]

Weren't you the one who said Crabbe was untradeable without throwing in a 1st?

Nope, wasn't me. I just said that Olshey should have let him go when he got the giant offer from New Joisey, just like Boston never considered counteroffering us about Evan Turner.

Nowadays, some on this board have too-fond memories of Crabbe. He was an average 2nd-round pick. Stotts' system inflates certain stats, like guards' shots (and thus forwards' rebounds).

 

[BBert]

There's no way he's getting a max so I don't see a hypothetical where we don't bring him back.

The silver lining of Nurk's playoffs performance.