Blazers/Lakers 4/11 Game Thread

[illmatic99]

DVR recorded the game in Spanish for me!

http://www.justin.tv/loyal922#r=NrKcjbE~

 

[PHXBlazer1]

Buy a DVR son!

What's a "DVR son"?

 

[PHXBlazer1]

So I'm watchin the game again, and I just gotta say, its even more impressive this time. Now that I know the outcome I can focus on other shit. There was more than one time in this game where the Lakers went on a little run, the crowd got into it, and they looked like the were poised to take over. But we didn't flinch. We kept fighting, LMA and Miller hit some huge shots to keep the momentum from going completely to the Lakers. Camby quietly dominated the glass, Batum was playin some SERIOUS defense, and we won. Even though it kinda seemed like the Lakers were in control. I can't find the right words to describe it, but it was Spurs-esque, like the 05 or 07 Spurs. I cant fuckin wait for playoffs.

 

[mgb]

just a wee bit defensive about Martell mgb? I provided the link and just threw down my impression of what Joe had said to introduce it giving my words about a half second of thought. How else might you characterize someone who isn't physically with the team during a timeout and thereby not paying attention to what the coach is instructing the guys to do with under a minute to go? What viable excuse is there for not being both physically and mentally 100% there for a timeout with any game on the line (let alone this one)? Why shouldn't he be aware of the team foul situation? I don't care if it's Pendergraph who didn't sniff the floor... no excuse works. Did you happen to see how pissed Nate was over this fuck up? I'm as happy as anyone that things worked out and hopefully (as oldmangrouch said) he learned something from this. It's hardly worth calling me out on this minutia like you're on to something.

btw... Joe Freeman continues to be the best thing at the O

STOMP

First off you might put that it's your opinion when you slide it in with what Joe is saying, very misleading.

Second he didn't think he was going to be in the play he could have been just getting a breather, moping about not getting to play is a big leap of BS by someone that obvious is critical of Martel. As you said Joe is the best there at Oregonian that's why I was surprise to see the BS you posted included in what he said.

After this I won't trust anything you post that someone else said.

 

[crandc]

Was actually watching the Angels' game :] Too bad they're getting run off the diamond today.

Yeah a great day for a Blazers fan living in Oakland - Beat LA twice over.

 

[STOMP]

First off you might put that it's your opinion when you slide it in with what Joe is saying, very misleading.

Second he didn't think he was going to be in the play he could have been just getting a breather, moping about not getting to play is a big leap of BS by someone that obvious is critical of Martel. As you said Joe is the best there at Oregonian that's why I was surprise to see the BS you posted included in what he said.

After this I won't trust anything you post that someone else said.

I don't trust anything anyone here says as things do get lost in translation from both the writer embellishing and the reader misinterpreting. Here you are attacking the messenger over next to nothing and making flailing excuses for a player who plain fucked up.

Breathing and paying attention to the coach during a timeout with the game on the line aren't mutually exclusive activities. Sitting away from the club during a timeout is unprofessional and unacceptable. Not knowing the team foul situation on your own is unacceptable as well. You're defending a clear and blatant fuck up with dog ate my homework level excuses

Even though it was a couple years back, I can recall our last exchange because it was equally irrational. Well after he was let go, you tried to take me to task for calling John Nash a failure and claimed that we'd see his moves come to fruition down the line. Nothing changed... worst GM ever. Now you're going on and on giving me grief over the way I characterized a report of a glaring fuck up by a player when I provided the link I got it from...

I don't know what your problem with me is, but if all you've got to offer is this sort of ridiculousness then please put me on ignore... I'd appreciate it.

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[STOMP]

I just rewatched the Freeman link. I'd guess I got the moping impression from Webster's dad's text telling him to "keep his head up". Of course thats the same thing Nate basically said earlier this season when he called out an unnamed starter for only bringing energy when his shot was falling. His wavering confidence is why he was assigned a sports shrink by the club. It's been my impression over his career that he's prone to getting too high or low pretty quickly... that he struggles to stay focused on the task at hand. Last night was another example of this... dude just escaped goat status

hopefully coming through with the 6 free throws provides him some long lasting confidence that he channels to carry him through the next time he struggles. He played decent D on Kobe and he contributed to a big road win. I hope he builds on this

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[hasoos]

That was one of the weirdest game endings I have seen in the NBA, with players on both teams committing mental mistakes. Players on both teams were laughing because of how strangely it ended.

Now that being said, I am just going to throw this out there: Isn't it weird that Roy goes out and both Rudy and Bayless game seems to pick up a couple of notches? Is Roy's game style hurting their game?

 

[BGrantFan]

That was one of the weirdest game endings I have seen in the NBA, with players on both teams committing mental mistakes. Players on both teams were laughing because of how strangely it ended.

Now that being said, I am just going to throw this out there: Isn't it weird that Roy goes out and both Rudy and Bayless game seems to pick up a couple of notches? Is Roy's game style hurting their game?

No.

 

[RR7]

That was one of the weirdest game endings I have seen in the NBA, with players on both teams committing mental mistakes. Players on both teams were laughing because of how strangely it ended.

Now that being said, I am just going to throw this out there: Isn't it weird that Roy goes out and both Rudy and Bayless game seems to pick up a couple of notches? Is Roy's game style hurting their game?

I wouldn't say it's his style, I'd say it's him being in the game in general. Bayless seems to play better as a scoring 1. And Rudy is a SG. It's the same way other players will step up when a more prominent player doesn't play. I don't think it's style, just about opportunity. Take away Roy's 16-18 shots per game, and put those out around the team, and they will have more opportunity. Doesn't mean Roy's style is bad for the team at all, though.

 

[Minstrel]

I wouldn't say it's his style, I'd say it's him being in the game in general. Bayless seems to play better as a scoring 1. And Rudy is a SG. It's the same way other players will step up when a more prominent player doesn't play. I don't think it's style, just about opportunity. Take away Roy's 16-18 shots per game, and put those out around the team, and they will have more opportunity. Doesn't mean Roy's style is bad for the team at all, though.

Yeah, I think this is right. The Blazers have some good ways to re-distribute Roy's shots, so they can absorb his loss better than most teams could absorb the loss of their star. On the other hand, Roy is a much more consistent plus when using those shot attempts, so the team is definitely generally better off when he's healthy and playing. Bayless and Rudy can have nice games and use those shot attempts well, but I wouldn't want to count on it each game. Roy I can generally count on to use those shots well.

 

[Minstrel]

I'm a bit surprised by people saying that the Lakers game was terrible officiating against the Blazers. The Fisher drive block on Webster was an obvious offensive foul, but one horrendous call doesn't denote a trend. Through the game, the Lakers got plenty of calls against them, including calls on Bryant.

I also watched the 11 PM replay with this criticism of the officials in mind and still only saw the Fisher "run through the body" block as bad officiating.

 

[RR7]

I'm a bit surprised by people saying that the Lakers game was terrible officiating against the Blazers. The Fisher drive block on Webster was an obvious offensive foul, but one horrendous call doesn't denote a trend. Through the game, the Lakers got plenty of calls against them, including calls on Bryant.

I also watched the 11 PM replay with this criticism of the officials in mind and still only saw the Fisher "run through the body" block as bad officiating.

Agreed. I thought for the most part, it was alright, outside of that play. Crap calls on both ends, but not enough to say bad officiating. As opposed to just one side, they let both teams play in this one, leading to low FT totals, and a good overall game. Unlike the Dallas game, where one side played playoff basketball, while the other side still got ticky tack fouls called for them.

 

[mgb]

I don't trust anything anyone here says as things do get lost in translation from both the writer embellishing and the reader misinterpreting. Here you are attacking the messenger over next to nothing and making flailing excuses for a player who plain fucked up.

Breathing and paying attention to the coach during a timeout with the game on the line aren't mutually exclusive activities. Sitting away from the club during a timeout is unprofessional and unacceptable. Not knowing the team foul situation on your own is unacceptable as well. You're defending a clear and blatant fuck up with dog ate my homework level excuses

Even though it was a couple years back, I can recall our last exchange because it was equally irrational. Well after he was let go, you tried to take me to task for calling John Nash a failure and claimed that we'd see his moves come to fruition down the line. Nothing changed... worst GM ever. Now you're going on and on giving me grief over the way I characterized a report of a glaring fuck up by a player when I provided the link I got it from...

I don't know what your problem with me is, but if all you've got to offer is this sort of ridiculousness then please put me on ignore... I'd appreciate it.

STOMP

I don't know about some ancient history that you are reaching for, but as to this I think I was plain about what I said and I didn't defend him for making a mistake, only your moping comment that you added that wasn't Joe's comment. He obviously made a mistake fouling then.

You mention in the next post that after listening again you might have got it from his dad's comment so it seems you didn't intentionally mislead.

Quick edit. I have no problem with you. You mention one other time I guess I don't know I disagree or 'argued' with you so this makes two in how long? And I have a problem with you? Sorry, no. As I said what you wrote that Joe suppose to have said surprise me and when I seen it wasn't what Joe said of course I'm going to call you on it. Sorry if you have a problem with that. You could have said 'oops my mistake' and it would have been over.

 

[STOMP]

I don't know about some ancient history that you are reaching for, but as to this I think I was plain about what I said and I didn't defend him for making a mistake, only your moping comment that you added that wasn't Joe's comment. He obviously made a mistake fouling then.

his mistake was being absent from the huddle during a crucial TO. After 5 years in the league a professional shouldn't have to be told to do this or be aware of the team foul situation on his own. This speaks to his mental issues staying focused. That he fouled Kobe was the results of these fuck ups

You could have said 'oops my mistake' and it would have been over.

Given his history of moping I shouldn't have had to but I said as much in my first response relaying I gave my post a half second of thought after watching the video link. You chose to continue to be a prick saying you'd never trust a thing I said again and characterizing my post as misleading and BS. It's pretty well established that he has issues moping. Not sitting in the huddle because he didn't think it was necessary is pathetic and unacceptable. Saying he was moping is being gentle about such a grand fuck up, yet you decided to call me out again.

Lastly your contention that I'm a critic of Martell. I'm a critic and fan of every Blazer. I've praised MW many times this year for improving his D up to an acceptable level. I also praised him for coming through with the 6 FTs yesterday. Unfortunately in general he still can't dribble or finish around the hoop and he's still mentally weak which manifests itself many ways. Thank goodness Fisher bailed him out on that ridiculous 3 point heave, but how stupid was it to attempt a running forward 3 point shot? His offensive positives are the same one trick pony it's always been... shooting open set shots. This is his best year by the PER rating at 12.5 which equates to a below average player. Sorry that I'm willing to be objective about the play of one of the least productive and maddening players on the team.

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[PHXBlazer1]

lol the semantics of an argument. Every dude here is an expert

 

[mgb]

his mistake was being absent from the huddle during a crucial TO. After 5 years in the league a professional shouldn't have to be told to do this or be aware of the team foul situation on his own. This speaks to his mental issues staying focused. That he fouled Kobe was the results of these fuck ups

Given his history of moping I shouldn't have had to but I said as much in my first response relaying I gave my post a half second of thought after watching the video link. You chose to continue to be a prick saying you'd never trust a thing I said again and characterizing my post as misleading and BS. It's pretty well established that he has issues moping. Not sitting in the huddle because he didn't think it was necessary is pathetic and unacceptable. Saying he was moping is being gentle about such a grand fuck up, yet you decided to call me out again.

Lastly your contention that I'm a critic of Martell. I'm a critic and fan of every Blazer. I've praised MW many times this year for improving his D up to an acceptable level. I also praised him for coming through with the 6 FTs yesterday. Unfortunately in general he still can't dribble or finish around the hoop and he's still mentally weak which manifests itself many ways. Thank goodness Fisher bailed him out on that ridiculous 3 point heave, but how stupid was it to attempt a running forward 3 point shot? His offensive positives are the same one trick pony it's always been... shooting open set shots. This is his best year by the PER rating at 12.5 which equates to a below average player. Sorry that I'm willing to be objective about the play of one of the least productive and maddening players on the team.

STOMP

Adding he was moping was not being objective, if you think it is then you don't know what the word means.

I only said the injection of the 'moping' was BS and I made that very clear. You are trying to add all this other stuff.

I even finish my last post saying it seem you were not trying to mislead and then I seen the last of your post saying I had a problem with you and that was so ridiculous I editted my post to respond to that. So I was just replying to your post not pricking or whatever. Sheesh. Maybe you should think about what you are posting as to the reason you are getting the reply you are.