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But in the Playoffs we gonna play the Lakers, Clippers, Houston, Golden State or the Jazz.
If they make the playoffs they will be playing a much better brand of basketball. If this current roster never really meshes and or they decide the season is a mess and the fire the coach (Which could happen) then they will not have to worry about that.
Expectations for some reason are way through the roof on this site? ESPN doesn't even have them making the playoffs this year. I have them making the playoffs but i think my number on the prediction thread was 40-32. Where does that put them? 7th spot? Are you looking for a Championship this year? Really? I would be shocked and amazed if this team gets through the second round.
 
Sure, and the defense has to improve dramatically if the Blazers want to advance in the playoffs against teams of that caliber. That said, comparing defensive stats this early in the season, when some teams have played very soft schedules vs. what the Blazers have faced, is pretty useless. My suspicion is that the Blazers will end up a solid middle-tier defensive team and a top-5 offensive team by the end of the season. That's a combination that has a chance in the playoffs.
If they make the playoffs they will be playing a much better brand of basketball. If this current roster never really meshes and or they decide the season is a mess and the fire the coach (Which could happen) then they will not have to worry about that.
Expectations for some reason are way through the roof on this site? ESPN doesn't even have them making the playoffs this year. I have them making the playoffs but i think my number on the prediction thread was 40-32. Where does that put them? 7th spot? Are you looking for a Championship this year? Really? I would be shocked and amazed if this team gets through the second round.
I know it's early, but i don't see any difference in our defense compared to last year, the scheme looks the same, yeah we have RoCo and DJJ but they won't turn a horrible defense into a average defense
 
Chemistry is really important to becoming a good defensive team....we have the pieces...just not the miles yet....it's WAY to early to compile league stats....most teams in the league haven't even played each other yet. ...defensive strings take lots of repetitions and we've had little time to put that together...I think we'll be way better 20 games in...if we get worse by then, I'll have been wrong. Until then though....it's too early to compare in my view..when we've played good defense it's been really good....just not consistent yet
 
I know it's early, but i don't see any difference in our defense compared to last year, the scheme looks the same, yeah we have RoCo and DJJ but they won't turn a horrible defense into a average defense
You are not paying attention.
They have been on the road for 4 games. They had 3 days practice and a week before the season. They had one day practice before the road trip since the regular season started. They tried to implement small portions of defense but lack of practice other than real game time has created issues with communication and overall defensive cohesion. They cannot practice on the road due to Covid-19 rules like they usually can. They are now going to have a long home stand where they can actually practice between games.
Give them another 14 games and see where they are?
 
Chemistry is really important to becoming a good defensive team....we have the pieces...just not the miles yet....it's WAY to early to compile league stats....most teams in the league haven't even played each other yet. ...defensive strings take lots of repetitions and we've had little time to put that together...I think we'll be way better 20 games in...if we get worse by then, I'll have been wrong. Until then though....it's too early to compare in my view..when we've played good defense it's been really good....just not consistent yet
Funny how us old guys are all saying "Lets wait and see where they are at 20 games?"
 
I think realistic expectations for this team are a top-15 offense and a top-20 defense. That's around where I expect them to finish up.

Optimistic but reasonable goals, to me, are a top-10 offense and a top-15 defense. These goals require everyone on the team to be playing efficiently to their strengths all season long.
It may sound weird, but realism has nothing to do with my point.
In another thread, I demonstrated that to be a contender you really want to be a..
1) Top 10 offense, Top 5 defense
2) Top 5 offense, Top 10 defense

The former is very unlikely. So, we have to look to the latter.

I certainly respect your opinion that we're not going to get there. What @TBpup and I are saying is that your "realistic expectations" means we're not going to be a contender this season.
 
With the Bulls, T'Wolves, Kings (x2), Raptors and Pacers coming up in the next six games, I'm willing to bet that the Blazers' defense moves up a few spots in the ranks vs what they faced in offensive fire power in their first six games.

They played the 21st rated offense tonight and somehow moved backwards to 29th in defense.
 
They played the 21st rated offense tonight and somehow moved backwards to 29th in defense.

but there were posters here who recently insisted the defense was going to perform better against the mediocre offenses in this stretch. Wut happened?
 
They played the 21st rated offense tonight and somehow moved backwards to 29th in defense.

but there were posters here who recently insisted the defense was going to perform better against the mediocre offenses in this stretch. Wut happened?

I believe that what happened is the Blazers shit their bed.
 
Our defense would be massively improved if Melo wasn't playing.
 
Keep playing these crappy teams and we should climb to the 10-15 range.
But when the complaints were started being fired around, hadn't we played a real tough schedule against some of the best teams? What are the chances a few teams that were rated higher defensively, had played an easy schedule? We may be a bad defensive team, but damn, at least give it 20 games or so.
 
Well, you can’t play the top teams every night, just the first 6 games, when people went bonkers around here.

So which teams would we play in the Playoffs? Asking for a friend.
 
So which teams would we play in the Playoffs? Asking for a friend.

I thought this thread was about how bad the Blazers’ defense is. My point is that it makes zero sense to use league defensive stats after just a few games. Strength of schedule is a huge factor influencing those stats when one team has played mostly top teams and other teams have just played bottom dwellers. The Blazers now catching a few soft teams and some home court advantage just makes up for how difficult their early schedule was.

Your point that the Blazers will play top teams in the playoffs is valid, and if they want a shot at making any noise, they are going to have to get close to a top ten defense by the end of the season. They’re doing better, but they have a long way to go.
 
first thing, I think we all realize, or at least most of us do, that any numbers derived this early in a season shouldn't be used to form any broad conclusions about teams. Too much room in schedule differentials to keep out skew. And after a short off-season, and even shorter training camp, teams will probably take longer to find their footing than in a normal season. Of course, every team will have that disadvantage

for the purpose of the regular season at least, a more telling number is net point/100 differential of offense and defense ratings. That has always been a little better as a predictive gauge

for this season (last column):

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I'm a stat fan so I've watched this for years. By the end of a season, you can take this differential without knowing team records and pretty accurately estimate what their won/loss record is; usually within a couple of games. Probably by the mid-season break this year, this differential will more closely track winnig percentages

I will say, Portland has been a team in the Stotts era that has generally over-performed that gauge by a couple of wins.

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as for defensive rating, and I think it might have been mentioned in this thread, that rating seems to be a pretty essential ingredient for a championship. I went thru the last 20 champions, and IIRC, 18 of 20 champions were top-10 in defense, and of those, most were top-5. And one of the two teams not top-10 was 11th. One team was an outlier.

my guess why defense is so important is that it can be the most consistent component of a team. In the 3 point era I'd say offense can be a lot more inconsistent than defense. So, on night when a team is shooting poorly, if they have good defense, they can still hold the scoreboard margin to a winnable 4th quarter

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another differential that was predictive of championships, although not as consistently predictive as defense, was rebounding. That makes sense because if your offense is struggling on a night, winning the 2nd chance point battle can make up for it

Portland is currently 4th in offensive rating, but they have consistently been toward the top in that category in the Dame/CJ era. But they have only played 2 teams in the top-10 of defense. 9 of 11 games have come against teams in the bottom 3rd of the league in defense. And nearly half, 5 games, have been against teams in the bottom 5

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in other words, Portland's offense hasn't really been tested yet

meanwhile, the Blazers are 24th in defensive rating, 24th in offensive rebounding rate, and 7th in defensive rebounding rate

and a note about the defense: Portland has only played 2 teams in the top-10 of offense. And only 6 against the top half of the league. All that makes sense considering the Blazers have had the 29th hardest strength of schedule so far. Blazers did have that good win against the Lakers early. But their other 6 wins have come against teams with a combined record of 17-36, a 32% winning percentage.

Hopefully they can keep fattening their record and build some momentum over the easy start to their season because it's going to get a lot more difficult at the end of this month
 
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Blazers are 7-4
4th in ortg
24th in drtg

Last season
3rd, 28th

It's going to take a while to get the new defense implemented.
 
Last season ; rank 26th..........This season rank 26th
Daja vu...but i feel like this twilight zone.....oh wait stotts still the coach. I have never hated a person in personal life ever. But after 9 years of stotts i truly truly hate him. When will we fire him? Give me bugs bunny give me anyone who is clueless as a coach at least new face. Stotts is a disgrace. The man i robbing a franchise and smiling the clown he is.
 
Last season ; rank 26th..........This season rank 26th
Daja vu...but i feel like this twilight zone.....oh wait stotts still the coach. I have never hated a person in personal life ever. But after 9 years of stotts i truly truly hate him. When will we fire him? Give me bugs bunny give me anyone who is clueless as a coach at least new face. Stotts is a disgrace. The man i robbing a franchise and smiling the clown he is.
If you hate Stotts, then you have to hate Olshey equally or more. Olshey is the one person that could fire Stotts yet he hasn’t. Stotts is just doing what he’s paid to do, albeit not too well.
 
If you hate Stotts, then you have to hate Olshey equally or more. Olshey is the one person that could fire Stotts yet he hasn’t. Stotts is just doing what he’s paid to do, albeit not too well.

Well put. I've never understood how people can say a coach is responsible for the production of the players he's given, but don't think the GM is responsible for the failures/successes of the coach they have hired.

I've stated before, I think Olshey knows the second he fires Stotts, his clock starts ticking if we don't become a contender fast.
 
If you hate Stotts, then you have to hate Olshey equally or more. Olshey is the one person that could fire Stotts yet he hasn’t. Stotts is just doing what he’s paid to do, albeit not too well.
I absolutely despise that fool also. The difference is i see stotts clueless face much more than olshey
 

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