Blazers need more 3 point scoring

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swish3 said:
The Blazers (8 of 30) beat the Clippers (4 of 13) in the swish3 contest while shooting a terrible 26.7% of FT3s. The two best shooters of the night were Shabazz (1 of 2) and Pat (2 of 4). There is also the problem of only scoring 18 points in the 4th quarter. But relying on an excellent 38 point 2nd quarter and good play throughout the earlier part of the game, the Blazers win and stay on the path to the Championship.

For the playoffs, the Blazers will need better percentage swish3 shooting and 4th quarter play that the coaches can experiment to find in the upcoming games. I imagine that they will use these opportunities to improve.
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Or we could do what built us that Clipped lead and get buckets inside.
 
Leonard's numbers per minute are alright. But he's mechanical (i.e. uncreative...looking to the sideline for orders...not a natural athlete) on defense. Tonight's game thread compares him to Marjanovic:

B-Roy said:
Boban is a per minute stats monster.

But watching him play.....I can see why he only gets <15 mpg. Gets attacked on every defensive possession...

He's like Meyers except he actually produces numbers!
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Speaking of the game thread, here's my reason for our lack of 3-point shots.

jlprk said:
The only problem is that the $26 million McCollum contributes $3 million worth of production and $20 million worth of reputation.
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jlprk said:
Leonard's numbers per minute are alright. But he's mechanical (i.e. uncreative...looking to the sideline for orders...not a natural athlete) on defense. Tonight's game thread compares him to Marjanovic:
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This is still just stating the criticisms from last season instead of acknowledging the improved performance this year. Meyers this year is deliberate and accurate, and has improved on defense. He can help win games, and should be recognized for achievements, rather than negatively commented on in comparison to bad players.
 
swish3 said:
This is still just stating the criticisms from last season instead of acknowledging the improved performance this year. Meyers this year is deliberate and accurate, and has improved on defense. He can help win games, and should be recognized for achievements, rather than negatively commented on in comparison to bad players.
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Meyers is on pace to have a career low amount of defensive win shares, and in 204 minutes, he hasn't blocked a single shot.. not ONE! (For reference, Shabazz gets a block every 100 minutes) So how can you say he's improved defensively?
 
Yes, Meyers needs to develop shot blocking, and based on what Jusuf is doing he can also concentrate on this. I think that he has improved defensively because of his better positioning, movement that anticipates opponents, getting hands high to force changes in opponent's show trajectory, and decreased fouling. He has played defense well against Cousins, Gasol, McGee, and Adams, among others.
 
swish3 said:
You are right. I do not get the negative expectations and do not see the "disaster." It would be great to see Meyers try it, and tonight would be a favorable time.
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Jake layman got burn before meyers. Lol. Baldwin and swanny got burn before meyers. Lol.

Ill trust the coach before your backwards view of meyers’ games
 
swish3 said:
Yes, Meyers needs to develop shot blocking, and based on what Jusuf is doing he can also concentrate on this. I think that he has improved defensively because of his better positioning, movement that anticipates opponents, getting hands high to force changes in opponent's show trajectory, and decreased fouling. He has played defense well against Cousins, Gasol, McGee, and Adams, among others.
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So you think the guy with 0 blocks in 204 minutes is deterring guys from attacking the rim?

Decreased fouling? Last year he fouled 5.1 times Per 36 minutes. This year, has fouling 4.9 times Per 36 minutes. Both are horrible.

Played defense well against Cousins? Last year Cousins dropped 50something on him.

So the dude is 7'1 with no blocks in 204 minutes, is still fouling at an insane clip, and you think he's improved defensively? C'mon dude. You're not objective.
 
In the win over the Grizzlies the Blazers scored 12 of 38 swish3s which are 3 more than the Grizz 9 of 21. The best swish3 shooting was by Chief (3 of 6), Evan (2 of 4), and Pat (1 of 2). Caleb should not be attempting swish3s, but had 2 nice assists. Shabazz was 0 for 5. I would have like to see Meyers shoot swish3s to add to the 3 of 4 FG shooting, 2 assists, and 5 rebounds that he had in 19 min.

In the 4th quarter, the Blazers scored only 15 points, but played well enough earlier (43 points in the 3rd quarter) to win the game.

The Texas triangle and Nuggets coming up will be opportunities to devise more swish3 scoring as will be needed for winning in the playoffs. I look forward to at least 12 swish3s per game, preferably 15+, to increase wins.
 
swish3 said:
In the win over the Grizzlies the Blazers scored 12 of 38 swish3s which are 3 more than the Grizz 9 of 21. The best swish3 shooting was by Chief (3 of 6), Evan (2 of 4), and Pat (1 of 2). Caleb should not be attempting swish3s, but had 2 nice assists. Shabazz was 0 for 5. I would have like to see Meyers shoot swish3s to add to the 3 of 4 FG shooting, 2 assists, and 5 rebounds that he had in 19 min.

In the 4th quarter, the Blazers scored only 15 points, but played well enough earlier (43 points in the 3rd quarter) to win the game.

The Texas triangle and Nuggets coming up will be opportunities to devise more swish3 scoring as will be needed for winning in the playoffs. I look forward to at least 12 swish3s per game, preferably 15+, to increase wins.
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Do you get sad when we make a jumpshot2?
 
Strenuus said:
Do you get sad when we make a jumpshot2?
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No, of course not! I applaud the good shooting of FG and FT, and give kudos tonight to Dame, CJ, Chief, and Evan.

The 31.6% FT3 shooting is disappointing though. The Blazers must do better in the playoffs.
 
swish3 said:
No, of course not! I applaud the good shooting of FG and FT, and give kudos tonight to Dame, CJ, Chief, and Evan.

The 31.6% FT3 shooting is disappointing though. The Blazers must do better in the playoffs.
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What's a FT3? Free throw 3?

So, do you get sad when we just make a FT1?
 
Strenuus said:
What's a FT3? Free throw 3?

So, do you get sad when we just make a FT1?
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OK. I meant 31.6% FG3. (That's what get for trying to not always just say swish3.) Anyhow, Blazers can and will do better.

But maybe we should applaud those occasions when a Blazer makes all 3 of the FT when fouled during a swish3 attempt by calling them FT3s.
 
swish3 said:
OK. I meant 31.6% FG3. (That's what get for trying to not always just say swish3.) Anyhow, Blazers can and will do better.

But maybe we should applaud those occasions when a Blazer makes all 3 of the FT when fouled during a swish3 attempt by calling them FT3s.
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WE SHOULD!

THROW3s!
 
Makes me wonder why during his 19 minutes on the court Meyers did not attempt a single three pointer while being guaranteed to shoot 50%.
 
Now that we have invented the FT3 idea (making all 3 FT resulting from being fouled on a swish3 attempt), I am looking for a way to determine the list of those who have succeeded the most as I think that Dame will be high on the list. I remember that he has done it many times. Can anyone find a good way to determine this statistic?
 
The Mavericks beat the Blazers with a clear demonstration that 17 of 44 swish3 scoring is sufficient to win over the terrible 10 of 40 swish3 scoring from the Blazers. The 21 point swish3 advantage is more than enough to win and poses the developing problem for the Blazers.

This was a terrible game for the Blazers, with the injury to Dame, inconsistent defense, too many turnovers, and above all unsatisfactory 25% swish3 shooting. There were 4 Blazers who missed all of their swish3 attempts tonight (CJ, Evan, Zach, and Meyers). Shabazz was 4 for 4 on swish3s and Pat was 2 of 3. Dame and Chief were each 2 of 10. Something has to be improved with swish3s if there are to be wins.

This loss really hurts. There must be new strategies, and some way to improve confidence that results in high percentage swish3 shooting, for the road to playoff wins to continue. What can the Blazers do against the Rockets in Houston?
 
Here is what I think the Blazers can do to beat the Rockets, Spurs, and everyone else. Select the Blazers with the hot swish3 hand and limit swish3 attempts by those with the cold hand.

From the Mavericks game, it is clear that Blazers who were cold kept shooting. With Dame, Ed, and Mo out of the game, swish3s should first be attempted by CJ, Shabazz, Chief, and if this first trio does not find the hot hand, by others who have shot better than 40% FG3 in the past. Blazers who miss 3 consecutive swish3 should stop shooting, and substitutions should be made to find the hot hand. This is what well coached opponents have done, but seems a forgotten strategy. If the hot swish3 shooters are taking most of the shots, the Blazers can achieve the 12-20 FG3s that win the swish3 contest and thus increase the probability of a win. Blazers must find and feed the hot hands!
 
The Rockets provided a demonstration of swish3 shooting with 13 in the first half to rack up 66 points. The Rockets also won the swish3 contest with 13 of 37 versus 7 of 22 (31.8%) for the Blazers. After a terrible start that the Blazers almost recovered from due mainly to better defense, substitutions that brought in determined players from the bench, and found a few hot hands, the Blazers had a chance to win at the end.

The best swish3 shooters were Evan (2 of 2) and Wade (2 of 3). CJ was 2 of 9 and Shabazz was 1 of 5. Three Blazers, Pat, Layman, and Zach, were each 0 for 1 of swish3s. The Blazers had a deficit of 18 points in the swish3 scoring contest, which was a major factor in the unsatisfactory scoring and the loss.

The first half was a lesson in potent swish3 scoring by the Rockets, and the 2nd half was a lesson in how potent defense against swish3 scoring can be for the Blazers. Getting the swish3 power scoring right can win games.

The Rockets game showed cause for praise to strong play by Wade, Caleb, Pat, and PapaG. The Blazers can change the flow of the game by substituting fresh players who play with energy and can do this more often and earlier in the game. Instead of getting behind by more than 20 points, the Blazers could be making substitutions and looking for the shooters with the hot hand and energetic play at both ends of the court to increase the probability of winning. The Spurs, Nuggets, and Jazz are all beatable if we involve the talent that we have seen on this Blazer team.
 
swish3 said:
Here is what I think the Blazers can do to beat the Rockets, Spurs, and everyone else. Select the Blazers with the hot swish3 hand and limit swish3 attempts by those with the cold hand.

From the Mavericks game, it is clear that Blazers who were cold kept shooting. With Dame, Ed, and Mo out of the game, swish3s should first be attempted by CJ, Shabazz, Chief, and if this first trio does not find the hot hand, by others who have shot better than 40% FG3 in the past. Blazers who miss 3 consecutive swish3 should stop shooting, and substitutions should be made to find the hot hand. This is what well coached opponents have done, but seems a forgotten strategy. If the hot swish3 shooters are taking most of the shots, the Blazers can achieve the 12-20 FG3s that win the swish3 contest and thus increase the probability of a win. Blazers must find and feed the hot hands!
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I think Stotts knows what he's doing... kind of...
 
The Blazers won the swish3 contest shooting 11 of 28 versus the Spurs 7 of 21, but lost the game due to weak and inconsistent defense, with biased referees being a major factor. This game was among the most poorly called games that I remember as noted by many comments on this forum. But the game also was a missed opportunity to learn from the dramatic difference between the 1st and 2nd half of the Rockets game April 5 in which substitutions showed that the Blazers could enhance Blazer offense and defense.

The best swish3 shooting in the Spurs game tonight was from Dame (6 of 12), Evan (1 of 2), Meyers (2 of 2) and Wade (1 of 1). Chief was 1 of 4 and four Blazers missed all swish3s, including CJ 3, Zach 2, Shabazz 1, and Pat 1. The swish3 strategy of feeding the hot hand to continue shooting was not continued, missing the chance to score the 61 points in the 2nd half needed to win the game. Meyers contributed an excellent game both on offense and defense, and could have contributed energy and scoring to the 4th quarter for a win. Wade could also have played more minutes for end of game defense and another swish3.

After what the Blazers learned from the Rockets game, the strategy for staying with the high % shooters and bringing fresh energy to the defensive game in the 2nd half has been demonstrated. For the last 2 season games and the playoffs, I imagine that the Blazers can use this strategy to win.

Considering the 10 point swing (5 foul calls against and 5+ nocalls for) that would have evened the game, the Blazers could have won this game too. The defense must be consistent and the fouls called evenly................
 
swish3 said:
The Blazers won the swish3 contest shooting 11 of 28 versus the Spurs 7 of 21, but lost the game due to weak and inconsistent defense, with biased referees being a major factor. This game was among the most poorly called games that I remember as noted by many comments on this forum. But the game also was a missed opportunity to learn from the dramatic difference between the 1st and 2nd half of the Rockets game April 5 in which substitutions showed that the Blazers could enhance Blazer offense and defense.

The best swish3 shooting in the Spurs game tonight was from Dame (6 of 12), Evan (1 of 2), Meyers (2 of 2) and Wade (1 of 1). Chief was 1 of 4 and four Blazers missed all swish3s, including CJ 3, Zach 2, Shabazz 1, and Pat 1. The swish3 strategy of feeding the hot hand to continue shooting was not continued, missing the chance to score the 61 points in the 2nd half needed to win the game. Meyers contributed an excellent game both on offense and defense, and could have contributed energy and scoring to the 4th quarter for a win. Wade could also have played more minutes for end of game defense and another swish3.

After what the Blazers learned from the Rockets game, the strategy for staying with the high % shooters and bringing fresh energy to the defensive game in the 2nd half has been demonstrated. For the last 2 season games and the playoffs, I imagine that the Blazers can use this strategy to win.

Considering the 10 point swing (5 foul calls against and 5+ nocalls for) that would have evened the game, the Blazers could have won this game too. The defense must be consistent and the fouls called evenly................
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Meyers played good defensively? No he didnt. What were you watching? Did you not see him foul Pau Gasol? Did you not see him get blown by by Aldridge wjich led to am and1 on a dumb foul by Meyers? Meyers was horrible defensively. You say we lost because of defense and that we should've played Meyers more because we needed more shooting? Lmao.

Obviously if the blazers just played Meyers for 48 minutes every game we'd be 82-0.
 
BJ, you do not understand my points, and continue to show strong negative bias against Meyers. The Blazers should have learned from the Rockets game that continuing to call for shots from the Blazer in the scoring zone and using substitutions to keep the defensive intensity high can reign in 66 point first half shooting by the NBA leading team while running up points. This strategy is what I think is possible.

When we have Meyers and Wade making swish3s, I would have both of them keep shooting until a miss. We have seen hot hand shooting streaks by Blazers (and opponents) of 4-6 swish3s and the consequent 12-18 points change the momentum of games. Meyers played better defense as evidenced by his steal, his hindering of Gasol, 4 rebounds, positioning, and running the court, and strong offense making 2 of 2 swish3s and getting an and1 3 point score, which are positives to acknowledge. Both Wade and Meyers can add to late game scoring that is needed for wins in key games.

With better utilization of Blazer bench talent, and with the return of healthy Dame, Ed, and Mo, the Blazers can win the next 2 games and go far in the playoffs.
 
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