Blazers offer 1yr, $8.8m Q.O.

[Fez Hammersticks]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Blazers told Greg Oden's mgmt earlier this week they will tender 1yr, $8.8 mill qualifying offer 2 make him a restricted FA, sources tell Y!

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[Minstrel]

Had to be done. I could have even understood the max QO, but this was the minimum necessary.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Not done yet. Misleading thread title as of right now

 

[maxiep]

Let's hope someone offers him a decent contract which we can match. I don't want to deal with the distraction of an unrestricted Oden.

 

[Blazinaway]

Let's hope someone offers him a decent contract which we can match. I don't want to deal with the distraction of an unrestricted Oden.

that's certainly not an official announcement

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i would love for him to just sign with us, and fuck matching some other teams offer

i have a feeling PA is going to be proactive about it, not wait for him to "test the market"

 

[PtldPlatypus]

i would love for him to just sign with us, and fuck matching some other teams offer

i have a feeling PA is going to be proactive about it, not wait for him to "test the market"

I think it would be a smart play, to publicly offer something like $26M over 4--something that's probably below market value, but shows that you want to keep him around. It might prevent teams from submitting a larger offer, knowing that we're just going to match it anyway.

 

[Minstrel]

It might prevent teams from submitting a larger offer, knowing that we're just going to match it anyway.

Do you want to prevent other teams from submitting offers? I'd rather the team discover his market value while he's still restricted, rather than next off-season when he's unrestricted. The team will have more options (i.e. matching) this off-season.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I'm curious to see what other teams are interested in Greg and what they think his market value is.
Part of me hopes that several teams toss him an offer to help show the local fans that want us to get rid of him that its a stupid idea.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Do you want to prevent other teams from submitting offers? I'd rather the team discover his market value while he's still restricted, rather than next off-season when he's unrestricted. The team will have more options (i.e. matching) this off-season.

I'm operating under the assumption that if the only offer he receives is $26M from us, he'll take that rather than gamble on his health.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I wonder if he'll pull a Lamar Odom and ask his team not to match the offer. It wouldn't surprise me.

 

[maxiep]

i would love for him to just sign with us, and fuck matching some other teams offer

i have a feeling PA is going to be proactive about it, not wait for him to "test the market"

We can only offer him the one year QO or a max contract; nothing in between.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Do you want to prevent other teams from submitting offers? I'd rather the team discover his market value while he's still restricted, rather than next off-season when he's unrestricted. The team will have more options (i.e. matching) this off-season.

exactly, if anything, we want to leak a great offer, that way nobody will come close to it, and if they beat it, we match

 

[3RA1N1AC]

We can only offer him the one year QO or a max contract; nothing in between.

and nobody else can offer him anything, correct

you are talking about the next 2 days right?

 

[maxiep]

and nobody else can offer him anything, correct

you are talking about the next 2 days right?

That's right. After the 1st, assuming there's no lockout, other teams can offer him whatever they have available. Think what we did with Paul Millsap and Wes Matthews. One Utah matched, the other they didn't.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

That's right. After the 1st, assuming there's no lockout, other teams can offer him whatever they have available. Think what we did with Paul Millsap and Wes Matthews. One Utah matched, the other they didn't.

duh

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q37


To summarize, a restricted free agent essentially has four options:

• He can accept his prior team's qualifying offer, play for one season, and become a free agent again the following summer.
• He can accept his prior team's maximum qualifying offer (if applicable, and if one has been submitted) and play under a long-term contract at the maximum salary.
• He can sign an offer sheet with another team, which his prior team is given the opportunity to match.
• He can negotiate a new contract with his prior team that is independent of the qualifying offer or maximum qualifying offer.

 

[Minstrel]

We can only offer him the one year QO or a max contract; nothing in between.

Only for the next 2 days, I believe. Once the free agency period starts (whenever that is, considering the lockout likelihood), my understanding is that the team can then offer him anything between the minimum and a max contract.

 

[Sedatedfork]

That's right. After the 1st, assuming there's no lockout, other teams can offer him whatever they have available. Think what we did with Paul Millsap and Wes Matthews. One Utah matched, the other they didn't.

I assume that the lockout will start July 1. Do you think there will be any period where teams can actually negotiate and sign FA's? I just don't see how it is possible if the CBA isn't signed. Hopefully the lockout ends sooner rather than later, but you have to be concerned that Oden goes forward with accepting the Q.O. at some time and just playing the year out (albeit rehabbing as long as he can). I'm hoping they just sign him to a fair mid range deal and get it over with.

 

[Nikolokolus]

duh

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q37


To summarize, a restricted free agent essentially has four options:

• He can accept his prior team's qualifying offer, play for one season, and become a free agent again the following summer.
• He can accept his prior team's maximum qualifying offer (if applicable, and if one has been submitted) and play under a long-term contract at the maximum salary.
• He can sign an offer sheet with another team, which his prior team is given the opportunity to match.
• He can negotiate a new contract with his prior team that is independent of the qualifying offer or maximum qualifying offer.

Oden (or at least his agent) has already stated that he wants to gauge league interest with respect to a contract.

 

[Minstrel]

Oden (or at least his agent) has already stated that he wants to gauge league interest with respect to a contract.

That's not at odds with negotiating a deal with Portland after the June 31 QO deadline. Whenever free agency happens, Oden can gauge league interest as a restricted free agent and then (if he wants) negotiate a new deal with Portland, armed with that information.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Oden (or at least his agent) has already stated that he wants to gauge league interest with respect to a contract.

it would be foolish not to, unless we offered him the max, who knows if someone else would

 

[KevinJBonn]

I don't see a scenario where a team offers him more money after the new CBA gets ironed out. He would be wise to accept the offer in the coming hours before the next offer has to look something like $4mil/year not guaranteed. The interest may be there on the part of other teams, but there is some shrewdness in forcing the issue in the 11th hour here to prevent him from shopping around. If I'm Oden I'm signing on the dotted line the second that contract gets into my oversized hands.

 

[Shooter]

What a world. Oden has been constantly injured since he signed with Portland, has missed 2 entire seasons, and will never earn the money he's been paid for the last 4 years. But despite that, he now gets $9 million for one more season!!

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'LL EVER PLAY AGAIN.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

What a world. Oden has been constantly injured since he signed with Portland, has missed 2 entire seasons, and will never earn the money he's been paid for the last 4 years. But despite that, he now gets $9 million for one more season!!

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'LL EVER PLAY AGAIN.

It aint your money...

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I don't see a scenario where a team offers him more money after the new CBA gets ironed out. He would be wise to accept the offer in the coming hours before the next offer has to look something like $4mil/year not guaranteed. The interest may be there on the part of other teams, but there is some shrewdness in forcing the issue in the 11th hour here to prevent him from shopping around. If I'm Oden I'm signing on the dotted line the second that contract gets into my oversized hands.

I can't imagine Oden accepting a $4 mil per year contract. I think some team will take a flyer on him and we'll be left to match or not.

 

[maxiep]

What a world. Oden has been constantly injured since he signed with Portland, has missed 2 entire seasons, and will never earn the money he's been paid for the last 4 years. But despite that, he now gets $9 million for one more season!!

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'LL EVER PLAY AGAIN.

I love America. The land where anything is possible.

 

[Shooter]

I love America. The land where anything is possible.

Yep. I just wish I could get paid millions of dollars for not working.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Yep. I just wish I could get paid millions of dollars for not working.

dont be a hater, just market a skill that has high demand, capitalism at its finest.

or maybe we should go to a more socialist system

 

[Shooter]

or maybe we should go to a more socialist system

So instead of just one guy getting paid for not working, millions would get paid for not working. Yeah, that's the ticket!

 

[illmatic99]

What a world. Oden has been constantly injured since he signed with Portland, has missed 2 entire seasons, and will never earn the money he's been paid for the last 4 years. But despite that, he now gets $9 million for one more season!!

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'LL EVER PLAY AGAIN.

You wanted us to just let him go to UFA?