Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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If they are serious about winning in the next 3 years, Davis or Sochan are closer to contribution than Sharpe. If they are looking for a long-term plan, IMHO Duren would have been the pick. Tremendous upside and a proven track record for competing against decent competition.
Sochan has major offensive question marks and might not be better as a rookie than Sharpe. You don't know what a rookie can truly do in the league until they're in the league. This is the same conversations we had in 2018, but Ant wasn't nearly the prospect Sharpe is.
 
Apparently you completely ignored the part where I said "If Sharpe and Ant can fulfill their vast potential".

Sharpe has the talent to be good soon. Or he could suck. But you're not winning a chip with ae by drafting a guy who's going to be only a role player. Instead, they took a dude who could be a legitimate star four years from now. This reminds me of when the Blazers took Ant over guys like Jacob Evans and everyone was mad about it, but on steroids.

The gol is to compete now and compete into the future. There was no sure bet for a prospect in terms of a guy that would start and help us contend. Betting on upside gives us the best chance to contend down the road. I don't get how that means we shouldn't still try to win now because of what rookie we selected.

Whichever one of Nas or Sharpe is better ends up as our starting SF long-term. Sharpe and Nas at the 3 (Nas can play some small-ball 4) and then Dame/Ant/Hart 3-guard lineup is the plan I think.
I didn't ignore anything. I went with the best case from your post, otherwise this was a bad pick, no? I mean, we need that "if" if we are going to be good, otherwise we won't, and so it goes.

I don't think we can say trading the pick or drafting a "role player" is any more of a sure thing than Sharpe sure. Only that it is more of sure thing. There are unknowns in every aspect of this. But this is worst case scenario for Dame getting a shot while he is elite Dame, which is just a travesty as far as I'm concerned.

This scenario also brings us back to the cursed three guard line up.

I don't know, man. I obviously appreciate the optimism and normal discussion. I just wasn't prepared for the most unseasoned player in the draft to end up in Portland. It just strikes me as so contrary to what Cronin professed, I'm practically shocked. And the fact that everyone is fine with it... just so so confusing.
 
I think the Blazers think it is good enough to compete soon given Dame being healthy and how well some of those players played for a few games after the deadline. It's crazy to put that much stock into it, but I think they're going the strategy of build a solid foundation (Nurk, Grant, Hart) and hope a couple of the young guys pop (Nas, Ant, Sharpe, Watford, Walker). I agree with you that it seems unlikely, but given the situation it is probably their only real chance is to take big risks and hope at least a couple of them go to the moon.
Hey man. I'm shocked about the pick and shocked about the optimism. To me, we are one solid, defensive-minded SF away from making noise...and yet we draft 1. the most inexperienced player 2. a guard. I don't know, it just seems like there is a good path just out of reach. Like I said before, if we make a move to shore up the SF position and develop Sharpe, I'm way in. But this sort of commitment to being mediocre--or more realistically, this commitment to ride Dame into the ground--until *maybe* someone pops someday is a hard pill to swallow.
 
don't think that's nas.

btw, does anyone else remember the welcome to Oden the day after the draft in Pioneer Square? I was taking summer classes at PSU and walked over. Felt like we just won a title.

All downhill from there.
Who doesn't remember that?
 
Sharpe is in a much better environment than Green.
Sure, but Green gets all the minutes he needs to develop, plus one year experience of GLeague where he was playing against guys grinding for a main roster spot.

They’re also not entirely the same player.
 
Hey man. I'm shocked about the pick and shocked about the optimism. To me, we are one solid, defensive-minded SF away from making noise...and yet we draft 1. the most inexperienced player 2. a guard. I don't know, it just seems like there is a good path just out of reach. Like I said before, if we make a move to shore up the SF position and develop Sharpe, I'm way in. But this sort of commitment to being mediocre--or more realistically, this commitment to ride Dame into the ground--until *maybe* someone pops someday is a hard pill to swallow.
I'll tell you this: The organization (Cronin, Billups, Dame) all think Nas will be that guy. They think he's got Mikal Bridges type potential. Right or wrong, that's their mindset.

Personally, I think Jabari Walker is going to end up being a forward that makes all our troubles go away. He's perfect for what they need. Getting him and Nas developing gives me hope.
 
Apparently you completely ignored the part where I said "If Sharpe and Ant can fulfill their vast potential".

Sharpe has the talent to be good soon. Or he could suck. But you're not winning a chip with ae by drafting a guy who's going to be only a role player. Instead, they took a dude who could be a legitimate star four years from now. This reminds me of when the Blazers took Ant over guys like Jacob Evans and everyone was mad about it, but on steroids.

The gol is to compete now and compete into the future. There was no sure bet for a prospect in terms of a guy that would start and help us contend. Betting on upside gives us the best chance to contend down the road. I don't get how that means we shouldn't still try to win now because of what rookie we selected.

Whichever one of Nas or Sharpe is better ends up as our starting SF long-term. Sharpe and Nas at the 3 (Nas can play some small-ball 4) and then Dame/Ant/Hart 3-guard lineup is the plan I think.
Would you take Noel + 2023 DEN 1st from NYK if it was offered? Taking Noel on for one year would fill in our backup C spot and you can spend the MLE on another position.

Bamba and Smith are the only Cs I’d give the full MLE to. But even though it’s an overpay, I’d offer the full MLE to Batum. Batum at $10m on a 2+1 player option would be short enough that I’d be okay with it.

Dame/Ant/Batum/Keon
Ant/Hart/Sharpe/Keon
Batum/Nas/Sharpe/Ingles
Grant/Nas/Watford/Brown III
Nurk/Noel/___

How would you feel about Noel for a year and Batum for possibly two?
 
Would you take Noel + 2023 DEN 1st from NYK if it was offered? Taking Noel on for one year would fill in our backup C spot and you can spend the MLE on another position.

Bamba and Smith are the only Cs I’d give the full MLE to. But even though it’s an overpay, I’d offer the full MLE to Batum. Batum at $10m on a 2+1 player option would be short enough that I’d be okay with it.

Dame/Ant/Batum/Keon
Ant/Hart/Sharpe/Keon
Batum/Nas/Sharpe/Ingles
Grant/Nas/Watford/Brown III
Nurk/Noel/___

How would you feel about Noel for a year and Batum for possibly two?
Happily take Noel with a 1st, and wouldn't mind a batum swan song bere
 
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I got like 13 followers on there. I think I can live without the checkmark. Blue or any other color.
 
I'll tell you this: The organization (Cronin, Billups, Dame) all think Nas will be that guy. They think he's got Mikal Bridges type potential. Right or wrong, that's their mindset.

Personally, I think Jabari Walker is going to end up being a forward that makes all our troubles go away. He's perfect for what they need. Getting him and Nas developing gives me hope.
Yeah I’m curious to see if his shooting translates right away with our spacing. His ability to shoot will probably be the reason he ends up with more minutes than Brown III.
 
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I'll tell you this: The organization (Cronin, Billups, Dame) all think Nas will be that guy. They think he's got Mikal Bridges type potential. Right or wrong, that's their mindset.

Personally, I think Jabari Walker is going to end up being a forward that makes all our troubles go away. He's perfect for what they need. Getting him and Nas developing gives me hope.
Nas is my second favorite player on the team, but the injury concerns just keep piling. Hard to stay super positive when he’s constantly dealing with issues.

Also, if they think this, they should put money where their mouth is and extend him this summer for a possibly steal of a deal.
 
No. As a journalist it's a good think to earn it somehow
So the Hoops Jack guy isn’t a very good journalist? Or is he good and getting close to getting a checkmark?
I guess I’m asking is this from how many followers you have? I’m wondering if there is a number? 5K 10K?
 
Would you take Noel + 2023 DEN 1st from NYK if it was offered? Taking Noel on for one year would fill in our backup C spot and you can spend the MLE on another position.

Bamba and Smith are the only Cs I’d give the full MLE to. But even though it’s an overpay, I’d offer the full MLE to Batum. Batum at $10m on a 2+1 player option would be short enough that I’d be okay with it.

Dame/Ant/Batum/Keon
Ant/Hart/Sharpe/Keon
Batum/Nas/Sharpe/Ingles
Grant/Nas/Watford/Brown III
Nurk/Noel/___

How would you feel about Noel for a year and Batum for possibly two?
How can they take on Noel without sending back salary?
 
Happily take Noel with a 1st, and wouldn't mind a batum swan song bere
Yeah, there would also be a decent chance Nas or Sharpe overtake him in the starting role in the next two years as well.
 
Nas is my second favorite player on the team, but the injury concerns just keep piling. Hard to stay super positive when he’s constantly dealing with issues.

Also, if they think this, they should put money where their mouth is and extend him this summer for a possibly steal of a deal.
Takes both sides to agree. Nas would likely bet on himself.
 
Doesn't work like that. We'd have to guarantee his full salary.
I don’t get it, I’m seeing June 30 is the guarantee date? I thought that meant as long as you trade him before that date that you’d be able to pay the partial guarantee.
 
So the Hoops Jack guy isn’t a very good journalist? Or is he good and getting close to getting a checkmark?
I guess I’m asking is this from how many followers you have? I’m wondering if there is a number? 5K 10K?
You have to be associated with a verified publication or have a crap load of followers or be an entertainer or something. Twitter doesn't recognize Blazers Uprise as such. Not really a big deal.
 
I don’t get it, I’m seeing June 30 is the guarantee date? I thought that meant as long as you trade him before that date that you’d be able to pay the partial guarantee.
If you use him on a trade, you'd have to guarantee his salary as the outgoing to match. The NBA took away that loophole a few years ago.
 
If you use him on a trade, you'd have to guarantee his salary as the outgoing to match. The NBA took away that loophole a few years ago.
Yeah my understanding is we can make the guaranteed amount anything up to the 19 million before the deadline for matching purposes.
 
You have to be associated with a verified publication or have a crap load of followers or be an entertainer or something. Twitter doesn't recognize Blazers Uprise as such. Not really a big deal.
Let’s put it this way. Seems to me like this place has about as avid and full of knowledge type fans as well as actual connected posters as any place I have ever seen. Pretty sure most here would agree with that statement.
That being said. You seem you bring as much or more info than any of the “Media” types with “Sources” of course barring Woj and Shams that have blue check marks.

Was just wondering what it actually takes?
 
NEW YORK — There may have been no bigger mystery in this year’s NBA draft than Shaedon Sharpe. How else could we describe the 6-5 wing from Kentucky who never played at Kentucky and has not taken the court for an official game since high school?

Still, his talent is so vast and his appeal so wide that he entered Thursday night as a presumed lottery pick. Sharpe set his own market at the top 10 picks. When the Portland Trail Blazers took him seventh overall it was the kind of selection that was easy to understand. The Blazers took their moonshot midway through the lottery, hoping they could land a future All-Star to help Damian Lillard now and also serve as a bridge to the future.

Sharpe goes there hoping to do so, too. He was the No. 1 player in his high school class, so he is long on talent and pedigree, and he believes that he can reach rare heights in Portland.

“I feel like I can become the best player to ever play the game,” he told The Athletic.

How high Sharpe flies remains to be seen. He is not lacking in confidence, and he will bear a large mantle in Portland. The Blazers won just 27 games last season and owned the sixth-worst record in the league during a difficult year in which their former general manager was fired, franchise pillar CJ McCollum was traded and Lillard played just 29 games.

It also allowed the Blazers to reset. They named Joe Cronin, a longtime executive with the team, the new general manager and he has gone about refurbishing the team. Sharpe is his most audacious move yet and his first draft pick. Cronin had weighed dealing the No. 7 pick but held onto it when the right deal didn’t appear — he wanted to be wowed by an offer but never was.

Sharpe thinks he can come in and contribute. He will give the Blazers something they desperately need: a wing with size and scoring skill who has the potential to create for himself and maybe others. Most fans have not seen him play, so Sharpe offered his own scouting report on himself.

“I’m a dude that likes to attack the rim, draw some fouls, finish above the rim, also get my teammates involved and really just shooting the 3,” he said. “Just impacting the game.”

Sharpe admits there may be some rust at first but believes he can get up to speed quickly enough. He hasn’t played in a competitive game since last summer’s AAU circuit. Sharpe said he came close to playing during his half-season at Kentucky. He enrolled at the university in January after graduating from Dream City Christian in October, but never made it into a game.

He said was “really thinking about playing” in February when the Wildcats hosted Alabama and the team was down its starting backcourt in TyTy Washington Jr. and Sahvir Wheeler. Ultimately, Sharpe decided not to play.

“I just felt like it’s best for me to sit out just to get my body right,” he said. “And really just get ready for next season.”

He surprised head coach John Calipari by leaving after just one semester. Sharpe’s unceremonious exit was not well-received by those inside the program.

Sharpe said he has no qualms with how his time at Kentucky ended.

“I feel like everything happens for a reason,” he said. “I wasn’t really disappointed in not playing or anything.”

Now, the Blazers must hope he can help their turnaround. They have been a consistently successful franchise, with eight consecutive playoff appearances before last season.

Portland is banking on Sharpe as part of the nucleus which can help stabilize the organization. Lillard should be healthy again after abdominal surgery. They traded for Jerami Grant earlier this week.

The Blazers front office was comfortable with Sharpe after bringing him in for a 3-on-3 workout and Cronin was enamored with how he played in it. Cronin told reporters the Blazers watched as much film as they could find, from international competitions and anywhere else they could get. Without any college games to go off of, they used the workouts, both at their facility and Sharpe’s 1-on-0 workout at the draft combine, and film as a base.

They were also beneficiaries of more intel since some of its new hires had seen Sharpe play before. Portland hired Mike Schmitz as an assistant general manager last month; he had been a draft analyst at ESPN.

“Shaedon is an incredible talent,” Cronin told reporters. “We’re really excited about his future. It was a unique situation with Shaedon where he didn’t play college basketball. So he wasn’t seen or evaluated nearly as much as a lot of these other guys. But we were lucky enough to have we had a pretty good foundation built on Shaedon through our past viewings, specifically some of the new people we hired who had seen him a little bit.”

The Blazers considered dealing the seventh overall pick but couldn’t find a deal they liked. Instead, they settled on Sharpe.

Cronin thinks Sharpe has enough talent to play immediately. Sharpe thinks he’ll be helping the Blazers soon enough even after all the time away from playing.

“It’s gonna take some time,” he said. “But it’s not going to be long before I’m playing basketball, how I play ball.”
https://theathletic.com/3381830/2022/06/24/trail-blazers-shaedon-sharpe/
 
I think the Blazers think it is good enough to compete soon given Dame being healthy and how well some of those players played for a few games after the deadline. It's crazy to put that much stock into it, but I think they're going the strategy of build a solid foundation (Nurk, Grant, Hart) and hope a couple of the young guys pop (Nas, Ant, Sharpe, Watford, Walker). I agree with you that it seems unlikely, but given the situation it is probably their only real chance is to take big risks and hope at least a couple of them go to the moon.

it’s always been about one or two of the young guys popping. If two do we become contenders if one does we are 2nd round team if all of them struggle we are a borderline playoff team
 

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