Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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Disagree. Very few guys are still growing at 19, it's highly likely this is as tall and long as he gets. I think he could play SF just like he could play PG or PF, but size wise SG is where you ideally slot him on D as thats the size of NBA player he most resembles. In today's positionless game, there isn't much of a difference in the role that SGs and SFs play on offense. On D I'd love to see the team to have the ability to switch things as well as man up to mix their looks. As such, I want the SF to be able to reasonably be able to guard 4s and even 5s. At around 200 lbs thats not what I'd prefer to ask SS to do. I'd rather have his his length and quickness on the perimeter taking away passing lanes and 3 point looks from PGs-SFs.

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I think it was the weight he was referring to. Strong possibility he adds 10 lbs to reach 210. Which is how much our new PF weighs.
With all the switching that occurs, isn't it just as important for the SF to be athletic enough to guard SGs and PGs as it is to guard PFs?
 
Disagree. Very few guys are still growing at 19, it's highly likely this is as tall and long as he gets. I think he could play SF just like he could play PG or PF, but size wise SG is where you ideally slot him on D as thats the size of NBA player he most resembles. In today's positionless game, there isn't much of a difference in the role that SGs and SFs play on offense. On D I'd love to see the team to have the ability to switch things as well as man up to mix their looks. As such, I want the SF to be able to reasonably be able to guard 4s and even 5s. At around 200 lbs thats not what I'd prefer to ask SS to do. I'd rather have his his length and quickness on the perimeter taking away passing lanes and 3 point looks from PGs-SFs.

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correct. Especially with a smaller PG like Dame. Especially if you’re going to have a smaller player next to Dame like Simons. Him playing the 3 might work on a team with a big, good defensive backcourt (eg Lonzo and Trent), but not here with our team. Thinking otherwise strikes me as wishful thinking.
 
I know we're all super excited about Sharpe, but I'm trying really hard to temper my excitement and remember that he's a kid, he hasn't played in a year and a half, and he's not meant to be an immediate contributor.
 
Disagree. Very few guys are still growing at 19, it's highly likely this is as tall and long as he gets. I think he could play SF just like he could play PG or PF, but size wise SG is where you ideally slot him on D as thats the size of NBA player he most resembles. In today's positionless game, there isn't much of a difference in the role that SGs and SFs play on offense. On D I'd love to see the team to have the ability to switch things as well as man up to mix their looks. As such, I want the SF to be able to reasonably be able to guard 4s and even 5s. At around 200 lbs thats not what I'd prefer to ask SS to do. I'd rather have his his length and quickness on the perimeter taking away passing lanes and 3 point looks from PGs-SFs.

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Sharpe's standing reach is similar to many SF. You play basketball with your hands, not your head. Standing reach matters much more than height. Sharpe would be an average sized SF or a huge SG. Maybe 200lb is a bit light but he would be expected to put on some pounds of muscle in his 20's as 19 year old players typically do. Chet Holmgren is 190lbs but I wouldn't expect him to play SG.
 
Sharpe's standing reach is similar to many SF. You play basketball with your hands, not your head. Standing reach matters much more than height. Sharpe would be an average sized SF or a huge SG. Maybe 200lb is a bit light but he would be expected to put on some pounds of muscle in his 20's as 19 year old players typically do. Chet Holmgren is 190lbs but I wouldn't expect him to play SG.
Sorry no. It seems many here are trying hard to project SS where this roster's needs are rather then where he is. I'm very familiar with the combine #s including SR and he is more in line with the other 2s from the past few drafts then the 3s.

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I think it was the weight he was referring to. Strong possibility he adds 10 lbs to reach 210. Which is how much our new PF weighs.
With all the switching that occurs, isn't it just as important for the SF to be athletic enough to guard SGs and PGs as it is to guard PFs?
It is! Grant does have an especially long wingspan and of the rotation players is probably their biggest forward overall. I'd rather he'd be the primary 3 then 4 but thats another short coming of the current roster. Look at him compared to the World Champions... much more similar physically to Wiggins then Draymond.

btw, Grant is listed 4 pounds less then he weighed in at his combine.

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Sorry no. It seems many here are trying hard to project SS where this roster's needs are rather then where he is. I'm very familiar with the combine #s including SR and he is more in line with the other 2s from the past few drafts then the 3s.

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Yes and no... If we're talking about where he ultimately "ends up", he's probably starting at the 2. Worth keeping in mind though -- especially in the shorter term -- that he'll almost certainly be coming off the bench, and positions become even more meaningless when talking about bench players. He's got plenty of reach, size, height, and weight to handle his own at the 3 off the bench...
 
It is! Grant does have an especially long wingspan and of the rotation players is probably their biggest forward overall. I'd rather he'd be the primary 3 then 4 but thats another short coming of the current roster. Look at him compared to the World Champions... much more similar physically to Wiggins then Draymond.

btw, Grant is listed 4 pounds less then he weighed in at his combine.

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Personally, I prefer my SF to be a little more explosive to the basket than what Grant offers. He is fine at PF in today's perimeter-oriented NBA.
 
Yes and no... If we're talking about where he ultimately "ends up", he's probably starting at the 2. Worth keeping in mind though -- especially in the shorter term -- that he'll almost certainly be coming off the bench, and positions become even more meaningless when talking about bench players. He's got plenty of reach, size, height, and weight to handle his own at the 3 off the bench...
fine, sure. I'm speaking to which position he's primarily most likely to spend his career at. Certainly Daniels, Moody, Green, Edwards are also likely to spend some time at the 3 too, but I expect them all to primarily be lining up at the 2 defensively over the course of their careers

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Sorry no. It seems many here are trying hard to project SS where this roster's needs are rather then where he is. I'm very familiar with the combine #s including SR and he is more in line with the other 2s from the past few drafts then the 3s.

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The average SF standing reach is 8'8 which is within half an inch of Sharpe. Sharpe is much higher than an average SG of 8'4.5

Dame 8'1.75
Simons 8'2
Jae Crowder 8'3
Josh Hart 8'3.5
CJ Elleby 8'4.5
Dillon Brooks 8'4.5
Jake Laymen 8'6
Kenyon Martin Jr 8'6
Sharpe 8'7.5
Miles Bridges 8'7.5
Ronade Hollis-Jefferson 8'8
Winslow 8'8.5
 
Personally, I prefer my SF to be a little more explosive to the basket than what Grant offers. He is fine at PF in today's perimeter-oriented NBA.
so you like your PF to be both smaller then the competition and not explosive? I like mine to have more beef and be able to board. Okay... we'll have to agree to disagree

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fine, sure. I'm speaking to which position he's primarily most likely to spend his career at. Certainly Daniels, Moody, Green, Edwards are also likely to spend some time at the 3 too, but I expect them all to primarily be lining up at the 2 defensively over the course of their careers

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Fair. I just think in the context of short-term roster building, he's easily enough looked at as a 3 as he is a 2...
 
so you like your PF to be both smaller then the competition and not explosive? I like mine to have more beef and be able to board. Okay... we'll have to agree to disagree

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A good reason why we need both kinds. (i.e a backup center who can play both positions.

Usually, big beefy PFs who can rebound are slow on the perimeter, thus they are useless at the end of games. (or in the playoffs) Utah tried Favors at PF and eventually end up with the 6'6" Royce O'Neal. If we can get a big explosive PF I am all in. But they do not seem to be easy to find. Grant is thin but he can guard the perimeter and is long enough to defend down low.
 
I wonder if Sharpe wanted to go to the Trail Blazers all along. I've read Rick Carlisle can be an asshole, at least he was to Dennis Smith Jr.
Yikes no wonder Indiana didn’t want him
I don't think he wanted Indiana either. Rick Carlisle.
 
A good reason why we need both kinds. (i.e a backup center who can play both positions.

Usually, big beefy PFs who can rebound are slow on the perimeter, thus they are useless at the end of games. (or in the playoffs) Utah tried Favors at PF and eventually end up with the 6'6" Royce O'Neal. If we can get a big explosive PF I am all in. But they do not seem to be easy to find. Grant is thin but he can guard the perimeter and is long enough to defend down low.
That’s why I have more confidence in better on a HS talent than those kinds of guys. I’m still surprised Stewart went as high as he did.
 
A good reason why we need both kinds. (i.e a backup center who can play both positions.

Usually, big beefy PFs who can rebound are slow on the perimeter, thus they are useless at the end of games. (or in the playoffs) Utah tried Favors at PF and eventually end up with the 6'6" Royce O'Neal. If we can get a big explosive PF I am all in. But they do not seem to be easy to find. Grant is thin but he can guard the perimeter and is long enough to defend down low.
Grant averages 4 boards a game which reflects his lack of bulk. I don’t like him switching onto 5s because of this, for me he’s best at the 3.

Utah isn’t my template, contenders are. Draymond isn’t 6’6 but he’s stout agile and long. Horfod is much taller and heavier. Giannis…

I’m fine disagreeing

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Grant averages 4 boards a game which reflects his lack of bulk. I don’t like him switching onto 5s because of this, for me he’s best at the 3.

Utah isn’t my template, contenders are. Draymond isn’t 6’6 but he’s stout agile and long. Horfod is much taller and heavier. Giannis…

I’m fine disagreeing

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Does Grant have the speed to chase around threes and get switched onto guards? Seems like he is better playing against slower bigs.
 
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...ches-2022-nba-draft-best-values-biggest-drops

The Shaedon Sharpe/Jaden Hardy dichotomy
Eleven months ago, Shaedon Sharpe emerged as the No. 1 prospect in the 2022 high school class. Jaden Hardy, rated as the best guard in the 2021 class, was being projected as a top-three pick in the NBA draft.

Since then, Sharpe enrolled early at Kentucky and didn't play a minute of college basketball, while Hardy went the G League Ignite route and averaged 19.8 points on inefficient shooting: 42.2% from 2, 31.7% from 3.

Sharpe went No. 7 on Thursday; Hardy at No. 37.

Sharpe is the better prospect -- there's very little debate about that -- but a 30-pick gap?

"People are going to be as creative as possible to protect their draft status," one college coach said. "You go somewhere and don't play and go seventh, you go somewhere and do play and go 37th? I hope the model of going to school and not playing doesn't take hold. As a basketball fan, I think you want to see these guys play."

Focusing on Sharpe, the last time most coaches saw him play was at last summer's Peach Jam, when he averaged 22.6 points, 5.8 rebounds and was generally the most dominant player every time he stepped on the floor. Going inside the top 10 despite being the draft's mystery man was completely warranted according to coaches -- and seventh might have been low.

"His explosiveness stands out," one coach said. "He really has pop off the floor. He spent the better part of the last year really honing the rough edges in his game [in practice], smoothing out the rough edges in his game ... as a jump-shooter, in terms of his ability to play in the pick-and-roll game. Early on in his career ... he was more of a wing athlete. Heading into last summer with UPlay and then throughout the year at Kentucky, he smoothed out his off-the-dribble game, got more shot-creation."

Sharpe wasn't a bad shooter last summer, making 36.1% of his 3-pointers and 67.4% of his free throw attempts. But it was an area to improve upon.

"He needs to become a more consistent shooter," one coach who scouted him last summer said. "The feedback is he's improved in that area. He's got pretty good shot mechanics, it's been the focus of his skill development program for the last year or so. I would anticipate he's a better shooter than the last time we saw him on a big stage at the Peach Jam. ... If he can get to the point where he can be a pick-and-roll player, make high-level passing reads, his game can evolve. If he's playing off his athleticism and is a transition player, he can be solid as well, but how he gets himself into the upper echelon of young guards is determined by whether or not he becomes more complete with the ball in his hands."

As for Hardy, the Dallas Mavericks might have gotten a steal in the second round. Despite his G League struggles, Hardy is still considered one of the elite scorers in the draft class.

"I think he's really good," one coach said. "I think Hardy might be more skilled than Shaedon Sharpe. Sharpe is bigger and more explosive, but in terms of skill level with ball in his hands and ability to create shots and the potential to get buckets, I would say Hardy is either equal or potentially further along. Jaden Hardy -- as a young player playing against older, more experienced players [in the G League] -- struggled with efficiency and consistency. Depending on the sort of opportunity he has early on, could really outplay his draft status."
 
so you like your PF to be both smaller then the competition and not explosive? I like mine to have more beef and be able to board. Okay... we'll have to agree to disagree

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I don’t think his rebounding will be a huge issue. If anything, I expect it to balance out because Hart and Little get more boards than the average guy at their position.
 
Grant averages 4 boards a game which reflects his lack of bulk. I don’t like him switching onto 5s because of this, for me he’s best at the 3.

Utah isn’t my template, contenders are. Draymond isn’t 6’6 but he’s stout agile and long. Horfod is much taller and heavier. Giannis…

I’m fine disagreeing

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I am fine debating this as well. I think it is a good topic. Is Grant a poor rebounder because of his lack of bulk or because he lacks the quickness to get to the missed shot from the perimeter? With all the 3pt shots taken these days (and lots of long rebounds), it seems like guards can rack up rebounds just as easily. They are quicker to the ball and they often do a better job of reacting. Hell CJ averaged over 6 boards in his last playoff series against the Suns. I just don't think Grant's lack of bulk is the main reason he is a poor rebounder for his position.
 
So I have been watching The Last Dance and this really cracked me up...

Present day: "omg.... Dame unfollowed Shaedon... what does it mean? Does Dame hate Shaedon? Did Shaedon do something to piss him off? Are we trading Dame? Are we trading Shaedon? WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?!?!?!?!?"

MJ and Pip at the 1992 Olympics: "Fuck this dude Tony Kukoc.... let's show him who runs the Bulls."
 
Pretty interesting short documentary on Sharpe:

So he was definitely playing organized basketball for a while before ninth grade. As his dad said, "... basketball was something he did that he was talented in but football was what he loved."
 
I think Shaedon should go by Sleepy Sharpe because his laid back deamenor can come off as sleepy but it's ironic because his game is going to wake a lot of people up. Also he kinda got slept on by the first 6 teams in the draft.
 
I think Shaedon should go by Sleepy Sharpe because his laid back deamenor can come off as sleepy but it's ironic because his game is going to wake a lot of people up. Also he kinda got slept on by the first 6 teams in the draft.

I definitely think his play is going to resemble Roy in terms of never being rushed and playing at his own pace. Only time will tell but I definitely get that vibe from his play so far.
 

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