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blue9 said:
be upset that he left.
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I am not upset that he left, I think he felt it was necessary. What pisses me off is that he didn't see success as possible here, and from what I saw (differently than you), he is correct, and that really hurts.
 
MarAzul said:
Naw Mags, I can't explain any of your questions, But I can say, I expect managers to succeed or leave. Good excuses for failure just piss me off.

Two questions I would like to have you or anyone else answer. 1. Why do the Spurs think they can be sucessfully with Lamarcus where the Blazers blew the chance.
2. Why did Lamarcus want to leave? It can't be for money, so it must be for success. Then why the Spurs instead of the Blazers?

For my part, I think Lamarcus is probably right in his assesment, I don't think he thinks success is possible here like it can be in San Antonio. Can you telll us why that might be true?
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Because Aldridge was the franchise player here in Portlabd, forcing our management to suite his fragile ego. Aldridge wants to be pushed around by a strong coach and franchise that won't take his shit.

Spurs makes winners because they have a system and work ethic and sacrifice that doesn't give a shit who you are. If Aldridge doesn't do what pops says, he will bench him. I doubt our staff or management will ever do that.
 
magnifier661 said:
I doubt our staff or management will ever do that.
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Very good and spot on. I agree, the Blazers will not do what is required to produce a highly competitive team which includes putting a coach in charge that is a leader.
Pop knows the way, Steve Kerr sure showed he knows the way.
So, the bottom line is we lost Aldridge because the Blazers never brought in a coach to make this team highly competitive in the late season during Lamarcus' 9 years here.
I think that sucks, but I sure understand why he left.
 
MarAzul said:
Very good and spot on. I agree, the Blazers will not do what is required to produce a highly competitive team which includes putting a coach in charge that is a leader.
Pop knows the way, Steve Kerr sure showed he knows the way.
So, the bottom line is we lost Aldridge because the Blazers never brought in a coach to make this team highly competitive in the late season during Lamarcus' 9 years here.
I think that sucks, but I sure understand why he left.
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Stotts only coached Aldridge for 3 of his 9 years here. He was a +12 wins his first year and a 54 win next and 53 the year after. He was the only coach to coach him to the second round, without a bench. Management did everything it could with what little room they had.

Aldridge wasn't smart, he was lazy. We were on our way to contend if he just waited. We had cap room and another star to work with. I consider him very stupid
 
magnifier661 said:
Stotts only coached Aldridge for 3 of his 9 years here. He was a +12 wins his first year and a 54 win next and 53 the year after. He was the only coach to coach him to the second round, without a bench. Management did everything it could with what little room they had.

Aldridge wasn't smart, he was lazy. We were on our way to contend if he just waited. We had cap room and another star to work with. I consider him very stupid
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I'm happy we no longer have that prima donna on our team. Now, we have a team of blue collar type players centered around Dame. Dame is now the center of the Blazer universe and I have to believe we'll go far with him as our franchise player. Good days are ahead, my friends!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Is it what they are protesting about that is annoying so many of you or the fact that they are protesting?
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magnifier661 said:
Stotts only coached Aldridge for 3 of his 9 years here. He was a +12 wins his first year and a 54 win next and 53 the year after. He was the only coach to coach him to the second round, without a bench. Management did everything it could with what little room they had.

Aldridge wasn't smart, he was lazy. We were on our way to contend if he just waited. We had cap room and another star to work with. I consider him very stupid
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Ok Mags, I see it differently. I think Stotts is a way better coach than McMillan, but nowhere good enough to lead a contender. I think the team reflected the lack of leadership
the last half the season and it was very apparent in the playoffs. What Aldridge saw may even be more damning.
 
Hobbesarable said:
I'm happy we no longer has that prima donna on our team. Now, we have a team of blue collar type players centered around Dame. Dame is now the center of the Blazer universe and I have to believe we'll go far with him as our franchise player. Good days are ahead, my friends!
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Exactly this! It's weird when you look back and see such a timid star like Aldridge. So glad our new star is a leader
 
You need a kangeroo court of similar players like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker discipline a star player. A coach like Stotts doesnt pull enough weight. You can't pull a Win One For The Gipper speech with LA. He is playing for a salary and knows what to do. Outside of Wes, is Dame gonna sit him down and give him a progress report. LA was GONE a long time ago. He just haven't made up his mind.
 
"Lead, follow, or get out of the way!"

He couldn't handle the first and was unwilling to do the second. Now we have to live with the consequences of number three.

Stotts and Olshey didn't make LMA into a petty, little diva. Whether they did the best job of handling the problem they inherited is open for debate.
 
MarAzul said:
Very good and spot on. I agree, the Blazers will not do what is required to produce a highly competitive team which includes putting a coach in charge that is a leader.
Pop knows the way, Steve Kerr sure showed he knows the way.
So, the bottom line is we lost Aldridge because the Blazers never brought in a coach to make this team highly competitive in the late season during Lamarcus' 9 years here.
I think that sucks, but I sure understand why he left.
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I think when hiring a coach it's a crap shoot. I don't know if it's a exact science unless you have someone with a proven record. You see many coaches in history with sub .500 records go on to be great coaches. I think it takes a lil luck when hiring them. They might have had success in their first or second stint. It doesn't mean they are doomed for failure for life. I'll be honest, I would have never thought Kerr would have had that success as a coach. Just seemed like too much of a nice guy
 
MarAzul said:
Ok Mags, I see it differently. I think Stotts is a way better coach than McMillan, but nowhere good enough to lead a contender. I think the team reflected the lack of leadership
the last half the season and it was very apparent in the playoffs. What Aldridge saw may even be more damning.
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Wes went down, we lost leadership. You say the team reflected a lack of leadership, but it was Aldridge he couldn't leave. You wanted them to trade him after he said he planned on resigning a year ago? If we did that you would've been bitchin about how they have up their best player and a chance to contend for no reason.

Youre type of person that, whenever things go bad, blames management. Thing is, you couldn't do a better job yourself, but you act like you had all the answers after things play out. It's easy for things to go wrong and afterwards say that they should've done something different. The thing is only one team wins a championship, and any team is more likely to fail trying then to succeed. But you think that if they fail that they screwed up, which is wrong, as human personilty and sheer bad luck play a big part, with players falling to injury (Roy, Oden, Wes) and players wanting to play elsewhere due to personal reasons (LMA).
Basically you try to set up your team with the best chance possible. But essentially its like youre trashing a man for losing to someone on a coin flip, saying he should've played rock-paper-scissors.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
I think when hiring a coach it's a crap shoot. I don't know if it's a exact science unless you have someone with a proven record. You see many coaches in history with sub .500 records go on to be great coaches. I think it takes a lil luck when hiring them. They might have had success in their first or second stint. It doesn't mean they are doomed for failure for life. I'll be honest, I would have never thought Kerr would have had that success as a coach. Just seemed like too much of a nice guy
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I'm not sure Kerr is such a great coach.. I think Mark Jackson was terrible. That and having Klay and Draymond break out, combine to overrate Kerr. He's a solid coach, but not great.
 
magnifier661 said:
Wrong... There wasn't a single poster that had substantial evidence that LMA was leaving. And I suspect Aldridge was down to resign up until Matthew's injury. There is no reason he would play through an injury unless he was committed.
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Incorrect. It has already been established that at least 2 posters saw this coming a couple of years ago. Was BGD one of them?
 
tlongII said:
Incorrect. It has already been established that at least 2 posters saw this coming a couple of years ago. Was BGD one of them?
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Well, hypothetically let's say I think Durant signs here next offseason. Therefore, according to your logic, if it happens then I saw it coming, as if I knew it was going to happen. I don't have to have great reasoning for it, but if it happens then I'm a genius and that anybody who thought otherwise, even if their logic is more sound, should've seen my vision and known what was going to happen.

There's a chance for everything, you guys are talking in absolute because it fits your pessimistic vision.
 
tlongII said:
Incorrect. It has already been established that at least 2 posters saw this coming a couple of years ago. Was BGD one of them?
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And by the way, MAGS said no one had substantial evedence he was leaving. You replied that he was wrong because 2 people "saw" it coming...
 
tlongII said:
Incorrect. It has already been established that at least 2 posters saw this coming a couple of years ago. Was BGD one of them?
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Pfft, that was purely speculation. If Matthews didn't go down, would they still be right? I doubt it
 
BonesJones said:
Well, hypothetically let's say I think Durant signs here next offseason. Therefore, according to your logic, if it happens then I saw it coming, as if I knew it was going to happen. I don't have to have great reasoning for it, but if it happens then I'm a genius and that anybody who thought otherwise, even if their logic is more sound, should've seen my vision and known what was going to happen.

There's a chance for everything, you guys are talking in absolute because it fits your pessimistic vision.
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Pessimistic my ass. I'm just a realist. I was as optimistic about this team as anyone on this board for the past 4 or 5 years. This year the organization has regressed back to Telfair levels. During that era I was definitely unhappy as well.
 
BonesJones said:
And by the way, MAGS said no one had substantial evedence he was leaving. You replied that he was wrong because 2 people "saw" it coming...
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Mags is wrong on that. He just chooses to believe that, as do others who think that a link to a Woj article is the only evidence allowed on this board.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Has this one been posted yet?

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/...-kansas-basketball-nba-portland-trail-blazers

Wow--How did I not realize that Alexander was the kid who pissed off all those Illinois fans by picking up the wrong hat? I totally remember the uproar when that happened.
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Interesting read.

This sounds like a kid who really would have benefited from at least 2 years in a top college program - instead, he only got 1/2 a season. Too many people around him with their hands out. Tough break for him. I'd like to believe he has a chance, but....
 
BrianFromWA said:
and....no.
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Odd, so I'm sure you have a valid explanation when Aldridge played through his ligament tear then?

If I was checked out and 100% certain I was gonna bolt, I wouldn't risk further injuring my hand.

Like I said, Pure Speculation
 
tlongII said:
Pessimistic my ass. I'm just a realist. I was as optimistic about this team as anyone on this board for the past 4 or 5 years. This year the organization has regressed back to Telfair levels. During that era I was definitely unhappy as well.
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that's how you know you're a pessimist. Telfair levels? Because LMA was on the fence and left, leaving us to scramble to acquire young pieces to start a rebuild? Oh, but just because they didn't trade him after he said he would resign here makes them a terrible don't office... shut up dude.
 
magnifier661 said:
Odd, so I'm sure you have a valid explanation when Aldridge played through his ligament tear then?

If I was checked out and 100% certain I was gonna bolt, I wouldn't risk further injuring my hand.

Like I said, Pure Speculation
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That and the fact that things change. Players have a change of heart all the time. Sometimes you gamble and keep them to see how it plays out. Other times it's just not worth waiting. I think in this particular case, Neil made the smarter choice. It may have not turned out that way, but it's a lot harder to replace a LMA then someone like Victor Oladipo.
 
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