Blazers swap Clevelands 2018 first for 2017 first.

[SlyPokerDog]

We should ask for some of Lebron's DNA. We could have an entire team of Lebrons in 18yrs.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I was about to teacher the golden opportunity to correct you for once.

Some we have CLEs 2017 1st, could we trade our own 2017 and 2018 1st round picks, since we wouldn't be left without 1sts in consecutive years? (We'd have CLEs 2017, POR 2019)

Yes

 

[RR7]

I was about to teacher the golden opportunity to correct you for once.

Some we have CLEs 2017 1st, could we trade our own 2017 and 2018 1st round picks, since we wouldn't be left without 1sts in consecutive years? (We'd have CLEs 2017, POR 2019)

We could indeed move our 2017 and 2018 if we wanted. Of course, since we had Cleveland's 2018, we could have before this deal anyways.

 

[Minstrel]

Some we have CLEs 2017 1st, could we trade our own 2017 and 2018 1st round picks, since we wouldn't be left without 1sts in consecutive years? (We'd have CLEs 2017, POR 2019)

Yup. Though that ability didn't change with this trade. Before this trade, Portland could have traded their 2017 and 2018 pick and Cleveland's 2018 pick would have kept them in good shape vis a vis the Stepian rule.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Y'all are reading too much into this. This is a no brainer trade value wise, regardless of anything else. Awesome move.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Really? Thought the Stepien thing still applied.

It only applies to FUTURE draft picks. Once a draft is over, it no longer applies. There are a lot more details in the CBA FAQ, but here's the pertinent detaiils:

"Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in consecutive years. This is known as the "Ted Stepien Rule." Stepien owned the Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the 1982 trade mentioned above) that cost the Cavs several years' first round picks. As a result of Stepien's ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.

The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years, or by giving one team the right to swap picks with the other."

BNM

 

[RR7]

I don't think this really means anything at all. Was always going to be a late pick. A team asked for a favor, didn't hurt us at all, so we said yes. Doubt there needs to be compensation for it. Like someone else said, current picks (from same team) generally better or more valuable than future. In a strong draft, doesn't hurt to have 2.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I was about to teacher the golden opportunity to correct you for once.

Some we have CLEs 2017 1st, could we trade our own 2017 and 2018 1st round picks, since we wouldn't be left without 1sts in consecutive years? (We'd have CLEs 2017, POR 2019)

Yeah, I knew it didn't sound right when I typed it, so I looked it up to make sure.

Yes, as long as there are no provisions, protections or conditions on those picks that would open up the possibility that we won't have a 1st round pick in two consecutive FUTURE drafts.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

I don't think this really means anything at all. Was always going to be a late pick. A team asked for a favor, didn't hurt us at all, so we said yes. Doubt there needs to be compensation for it. Like someone else said, current picks (from same team) generally better or more valuable than future. In a strong draft, doesn't hurt to have 2.

This helps us. This draft is deep.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Olshey is making deals to look good for his next GM job. Cleveland's best restaurants all have valet parking.

I used to love how you think.

Not so much right now...

 

[Denny Crane]

We could indeed move our 2017 and 2018 if we wanted. Of course, since we had Cleveland's 2018, we could have before this deal anyways.

Yep.

our 2017 & 2018 gone.

We'd need to have Cleveland's 2017 or 2018 to have at least one in those two seasons.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Pick #30 and Neil keeps it?

Reach for Tacko:

 

[HailBlazers]

Pick #30 and Neil keeps it?

Reach for Tacko:

Manute Bol 2.0? Never heard of him, great name lol

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I love tacos.

 

[riverman]

I WANT IT ALL RIGHT NOW!!!!!! My jet pack is several decades late and they promised!

 

[Rhal]

With the new CBA going into effect next year and rookie contracts finally getting a bump from the cap going up so much it makes sense that this years 1st rounders will be worth more then next years because of the huge difference in money for the same caliber player.

 

[riverman]

Neil has 10 more days of razzle dazzle before Woj knows what we're doing

 

[Pinwheel1]

This helps us. This draft is deep.

Exactly. Plus I think the chances of moving up in a draft are helped when you have two 1st round picks in that particular draft. Not sure why people think we are not getting anything out of it.

 

[BonesJones]

Pick #30 and Neil keeps it?

Reach for Tacko:

No. There's so many good players that'll be available at that pick. You don't draft guys just for their listed height. That's why Thabeet went 2nd.

 

[Dougnsalem]

Huh? What happened? Atlanta deal? I really gotta cut out the naps. I miss all of the exciting stuff....

 

[PCmor7]

I can't imagine this is just a pick-for-pick deal. The Blazers seem to be doing the Cavs a favor to facilitate the Korver trade. Portland should be getting something else back, too. Right?

If so, shrewd move on Olshey's part.

 

[BonesJones]

I can't imagine this is just a pick-for-pick deal. The Blazers seem to be doing the Cavs a favor to facilitate the Korver trade. Portland should be getting something else back, too. Right?

If so, shrewd move on Olshey's part.

Hopefully Cedi Osman.

 

[Sarni]

I can't imagine this is just a pick-for-pick deal. The Blazers seem to be doing the Cavs a favor to facilitate the Korver trade. Portland should be getting something else back, too. Right?

If so, shrewd move on Olshey's part.

Well, we got a better pick. It's a year earlier and this draft class is supposed to be good.

 

[Mediocre Man]

At some point, NO and PA have to figure out if this team, this season, is a contender as is. If not, they would likely consider if a trade can put them over the top. If not, then we probably won't see a trade at all. Not shuffling the deck chairs around on the sinking boat.

Helen Keller could have told you this team in not a contender this year. Hopefully Olshey and Allen know this already.

 

[Sarni]

Helen Keller could have told you this team in not a contender this year. Hopefully Olshey and Allen know this already.

It could still put a great run at some point with, say, Millsap and Noel in the frontcourt.

Still not worth it. Better aim for next seasons.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

We should ask for some of Lebron's DNA. We could have an entire team of Lebrons in 18yrs.

What a coincidence. I donated my DNA to mrs @HCP so this forum can flourish with my greatness in 18 years.

 

[tlongII]

Bad move. Cleveland is likely to be worse next year than this year.

 

[illmatic99]

Bad move. Cleveland is likely to be worse next year than this year.

But the draft is supposedly stronger this year. 28th pick this year might be better than the 26th next year.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We should change Meyer's name to 2018 1st round pick. Send him to Cleveland and we keep the Cav's 2017 & 2018 picks.

 

[Denny Crane]

By any measure, if you want to get better sooner, having the draft pick as an asset sooner is the way to go.