Blazers vs Knicks - Game Thread

[RR7]

blazers = ASS HANDED TO THEM

signed ronny turiaf

are u fucking kidding me?

go play in traffic

 

[MIXUM]

amare killin us? same old story.

turiaf killing us? shameful.

 

[MickZagger]

Well Wes is supposed to be one of the main scorers on the team. If he can't even make layups then that's on him and not Nate.

Initially he wasn't supposed to be one of the main scorers on the team. He's playing a role he's never played before. I'll cut him some slack. He's playing a role he hasn't played since high school and he's averaging 16ppg doing it.

 

[illmatic99]

Are there any shooters on the trading block or waivers?

Steve Novak is a free agent. He used to fill it up at Marquette, and he was a teammate of Wes' for one season.

 

[illmatic99]

LA finished with only 4 fouls in 29 minutes. Gee, that whole benching session in the first half that killed his rhythm sure helped.

 

[RR7]

LA finished with only 4 fouls in 29 minutes. Gee, that whole benching session in the first half that killed his rhythm sure helped.

Well, it kept him from getting a 4th earlier. O more to keep him out.

 

[Blazinaway]

amare killin us? same old story.

turiaf killing us? shameful.

no, we committed mass suicide

 

[DUB]

I couldn't watch the game, so can someone explain to me how Ronny Turiaf dropped 19 on us?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Felton is dribbling circles around Andre. Terrible defense.

Hater!

Let's see...

Andre Miller: 7/11 = 0.636 FG%

Rest of Team: 22/72 = 0.302 FG%

Yes, this loss is clearly all Andre Miller's fault. He really let down his teammates tonight. They all played their hearts out and deserved to win - only to have Andre Miller cost the team yet another win.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

I couldn't watch the game, so can someone explain to me how Ronny Turiaf dropped 19 on us?

It was Andre Miller's fault.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

It's not his fault Wesley can't make layups.

Obviously. It's Andre Miller's fault, right?

BNM

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I think I understand now why the Blazers do that goggles/three thing; it is such a rare occurrence when they make one that it is worthy of celebration. Every time an announcer says "That is one Rudy usually makes", I cringe. How far back was it that he usually made those, two years?

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think I understand now why the Blazers do that goggles/three thing; it is such a rare occurrence when they make one that it is worthy of celebration.

The way they shot tonight, I think it's a call for help, as is, "Hey god dammit, we can't see shit, can someone please get us some fucking glasses for christ's sake?"

BNM

 

[RoyToy]

Hater!

Let's see...

Andre Miller: 7/11 = 0.636 FG%

Rest of Team: 22/72 = 0.302 FG%

Yes, this loss is clearly all Andre Miller's fault. He really let down his teammates tonight. They all played their hearts out and deserved to win - only to have Andre Miller cost the team yet another win.

BNM

I'm talking about Miller's defense and you responded by posting his FG%.

Nice.

 

[RoyToy]

Obviously. It's Andre Miller's fault, right?

BNM

Huh?

Two posts in a row where you've made no sense. You're reaching the point where I just scroll over your post when I see your name. I don't waste my time on pointless things.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I'm talking about Miller's defense and you responded by posting his FG%.

Nice.

You chose to bash the one guy on this team that comes to play EVERY night - who was also the ONLY Blazer who shot the ball well tonight. Was Miller the only one to play poor defense? Last I checked, he held Felton to below his season scoring average. Turiaf scored 15 points above his season average. How come you aren't blasting Aldridge and Camby for their defense on Turiaf?

I find your personal vendetta against Andre Miller tired, tedious, classless, offensive and misguided. With all the injury problems this team has had over the past few seasons, I have a serious problem with any so-called Blazers fan who constantly disrespects the most durable, by far, player on this team. Miller has played over 32,000 minutes of NBA basketball. Yet, on a team that leads the league in knee surgeries, he's the guy that shows up night after night after night, laces up his shoes, steps on the court and does whatever he can to help this team win. He may not be perfect, but at least he's in the games doing his best.

He deserves better than the nightly bashings he gets here in this forum from one or two disrespectful "fans". You bashed him for his poor shooting and "calling his own number" too many times when he went 5/8 in the Houston game and kept the Blazers in the game when his teammates couldn't hit shit. Now, tonight, he shoots 7/11 while Matthews is 2/13, Batum 5/13, Mills 3/9 and Camby 0/6. Was Miller's defense bad? No worse than anyone else's was tonight. At least he played well on offense. But, your blind hatred caused you to go after Miller when so many others were way more deserving of criticism for the way they played tonight - on both ends of the court.

BNM

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Andre Miller's jumper is horrifying. I seriously cringe every time he squares up to take a jumper.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Huh?

Two posts in a row where you've made no sense. You're reaching the point where I just scroll over your post when I see your name. I don't waste my time on pointless things.

Good. Then stop responding to them. Your blind hatred of all things Andre Miller has now put you in the same league as Mixum when it comes to posting pointless negativity in this forum.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Andre Miller's jumper is horrifying. I seriously cringe every time he squares up to take a jumper.

Even when it goes in 7 of 11 times while the rest of the team shoots 22 of 72.

So, who's more cringe worthy?

Miller at 7/11, Matthews at 2/13, Camby at 0/6, Batum at 5/13, Mills at 3/9, Cunningham at 0/3 or Rudy at 4/10?

Miller shot 0.636 from the field tonight. Aldridge, at 8/18 (0.444) was the only other Blazer who shot above 40%. I don't give a shit what Miller's jumper looks like, as long as it goes in. Tonight was a night where I wish he would have called his own number more. After a while, it seemed pointless (literally) to continue passing to his teammates, only to have them miss badly, yet again. Wesley Matthews may have better shooting form, but trust me, there's nothing pretty about 2/13. Camby's jumper is even uglier looking than Miller's. Combine Camby's form with an 0/6 result and it's enough to frighten the women and children in attendance.

BNM

 

[yenniedn]

You chose to bash the one guy on this team that comes to play EVERY night - who was also the ONLY Blazer who shot the ball well tonight. Was Miller the only one to play poor defense? Last I checked, he held Felton to below his season scoring average. Turiaf scored 15 points above his season average. How come you aren't blasting Aldridge and Camby for their defense on Turiaf?

I find your personal vendetta against Andre Miller tired, tedious, classless, offensive and misguided. With all the injury problems this team has had over the past few seasons, I have a serious problem with any so-called Blazers fan who constantly disrespects the most durable, by far, player on this team. Miller has played over 32,000 minutes of NBA basketball. Yet, on a team that leads the league in knee surgeries, he's the guy that shows up night after night after night, laces up his shoes, steps on the court and does whatever he can to help this team win. He may not be perfect, but at least he's in the games doing his best.

He deserves better than the nightly bashings he gets here in this forum from one or two disrespectful "fans". You bashed him for his poor shooting and "calling his own number" too many times when he went 5/8 in the Houston game and kept the Blazers in the game when his teammates couldn't hit shit. Now, tonight, he shoots 7/11 while Matthews is 2/13, Batum 5/13, Mills 3/9 and Camby 0/6. Was Miller's defense bad? No worse than anyone else's was tonight. At least he played well on offense. But, your blind hatred caused you to go after Miller when so many others were way more deserving of criticism for the way they played tonight - on both ends of the court.

BNM

Amen. Truly rep worthy.

 

[MickZagger]

Good. Then stop responding to them. Your blind hatred of all things Andre Miller has now put you in the same league as Mixum when it comes to posting pointless negativity in this forum.

BNM

Miller and Cho. Matthews too when he plays a bad game.

You won't find many posts of his that don't bash at least the first two names I mentioned.

Anybody else can do no wrong. But, if we lose, its got to be Andre's fault and Cho was guilty of being the worst GM ever within his first day at the job.

 

[blue32]

You chose to bash the one guy on this team that comes to play EVERY night - who was also the ONLY Blazer who shot the ball well tonight. Was Miller the only one to play poor defense? Last I checked, he held Felton to below his season scoring average. Turiaf scored 15 points above his season average. How come you aren't blasting Aldridge and Camby for their defense on Turiaf?

I find your personal vendetta against Andre Miller tired, tedious, classless, offensive and misguided. With all the injury problems this team has had over the past few seasons, I have a serious problem with any so-called Blazers fan who constantly disrespects the most durable, by far, player on this team. Miller has played over 32,000 minutes of NBA basketball. Yet, on a team that leads the league in knee surgeries, he's the guy that shows up night after night after night, laces up his shoes, steps on the court and does whatever he can to help this team win. He may not be perfect, but at least he's in the games doing his best.

He deserves better than the nightly bashings he gets here in this forum from one or two disrespectful "fans". You bashed him for his poor shooting and "calling his own number" too many times when he went 5/8 in the Houston game and kept the Blazers in the game when his teammates couldn't hit shit. Now, tonight, he shoots 7/11 while Matthews is 2/13, Batum 5/13, Mills 3/9 and Camby 0/6. Was Miller's defense bad? No worse than anyone else's was tonight. At least he played well on offense. But, your blind hatred caused you to go after Miller when so many others were way more deserving of criticism for the way they played tonight - on both ends of the court.

BNM

As much as I would like to see Miller traded, I can't argue with this.

 

[PapaG]

Hater!

Let's see...

Andre Miller: 7/11 = 0.636 FG%

Rest of Team: 22/72 = 0.302 FG%

Yes, this loss is clearly all Andre Miller's fault. He really let down his teammates tonight. They all played their hearts out and deserved to win - only to have Andre Miller cost the team yet another win.

BNM

Who said that? I read the comment as being accurate in terms of Miller's usual terrible defense. Felton had 17 points/14 assists. Miller had 14 points/3 assists. Felton outplayed Miller.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Who said that? I read the comment as being accurate in terms of Miller's usual terrible defense. Felton had 17 points/14 assists. Miller had 14 points/3 assists. Felton outplayed Miller.

Everybody got out played. Camby and Aldridge got out played by Amare and Turiaf. Matthews and Batum got out played by Fields and Chandler. Blaming the loss on one player, especially when that one player was the only one on the team who shot the ball well, is just fucking stupid. Turiaf scored 15 points above his average and Felton 1.4 points below his average, but it's Andre Miller's poor defense that's being singled out. Miller shot 7/11 (.636 FG%). Matthews was 2/13 (.154 FG%), Camby 0/6 (.000 FG%), Batum 5/13 (0.385 FG%), Mills 3/9 (.333 FG%).

Anyone who tries to blame Miller for this loss either has an incredibly strong personal vendetta against the guy, or is a fucking idiot. Your choice.

BNM

 

[PapaG]

Everybody got out played. Camby and Aldridge got out played by Amare and Turiaf. Matthews and Batum got out played by Fields and Chandler. Blaming the loss on one player, especially when that one player was the only one on the team who shot the ball well, is just fucking stupid. Turiaf scored 15 points above his average and Felton 1.4 points below his average, but it's Andre Miller's poor defense that's being singled out. Miller shot 7/11 (.636 FG%). Matthews was 2/13 (.154 FG%), Camby 0/6 (.000 FG%), Batum 5/13 (0.385 FG%), Mills 3/9 (.333 FG%).

Anyone who tries to blame Miller for this loss either has an incredibly strong personal vendetta against the guy, or is a fucking idiot. Your choice.

BNM

Who is trying to blame Miller for the loss?

 

[RoyToy]

Miller and Cho. Matthews too when he plays a bad game.

You won't find many posts of his that don't bash at least the first two names I mentioned.

Anybody else can do no wrong. But, if we lose, its got to be Andre's fault and Cho was guilty of being the worst GM ever within his first day at the job.

You bashed Aldridge when he scored 20pts in a game once.

K.

 

[RoyToy]

Who is trying to blame Miller for the loss?

No one. Some people just can't read. I don't waste my time on those kind of people.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Who is trying to blame Miller for the loss?

The same poster who tried to blame Miller for almost costing us the Houton game when Miller shot 5/8 and kept the team in the game when no one else could score.

BNM

 

[PapaG]

You bashed Aldridge when he scored 20pts in a game once.

K.

He bashed LMA when he scored 32 points in a game once. Whined about LMA "disappearing" again, then LMA put up 20 or so in the 4th quarter.

Since LMA is playing at an All-Star level, it's tough to criticize him. Since Miller helped make Raymond Felton look like Chris Paul last night, it isn't really surprising that he is due for some criticism. A person who uses FG% as some sort of proof that the PG played well and doesn't deserve criticism either means that person has an inflated personal opinion of that player, or is a fucking idiot.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Since Miller helped make Raymond Felton look like Chris Paul last night, it isn't really surprising that he is due for some criticism. A person who uses FG% as some sort of proof that the PG played well and doesn't deserve criticism either means that person has an inflated personal opinion of that player, or is a fucking idiot.

First, Raymond Felton did not look like Chris Paul last night. I was at the game, and I was also at the NOH game. So, I have a first hand basis for that comparison. Felton actually scored slightly BELOW his season average.

I'm not claiming Miller played great, but he was not the problem last night. The rest of the team played like shit on both ends of the court. When Rony Turiaf, who came into the game averaging a whopping 4.0 PPG, drops 19 on you on 8/9 shooting, yet those guarding him are not criticized for their poor defense, I find it absolutely ridiculous to single out Miller for criticism. Turiaf (19 pts, 10 rebs, 3 ast, 3 stl and 2 blk) looked a lot more like Dwight Howard than Raymond Felton looked like Chris Paul. But, where is the criticism of our bigs? The only reason to single out Miller, when the rest of the team played a LOT worse, is if someone has an axe to grind.

And yes, I have a problem with that. Miller has a PER of 19.0 and shows up to play every single night. Yet, certain posters constantly bash him. So, who is earning their paycheck more:

Andre Miller:
Games = 38
MP = 1227
PER = 19.0
TS% = .530
TRB% = 6.7
AST% = 37.4
STL% = 2.9
ORtg = 112
DRtg = 107
WS = 3.5
WS/48 = 0.135
Salary = $7,269,264

Brandon Roy:
Games = 26
MP = 813
PER = 15.1
TS% = .501
TRB% = 5.0
AST% = 16.2
STL% = 1.7
ORtg = 107
DRtg = 109
WS = 1.6
WS/48 = 0.092
Salary = $13,520,500

Miller is totally outperforming our "best" player, and he's actually playing. He also makes a lot less money and is on a much shorter contract. So yes, I think the constant bashing of Andre Miller is totally unfair and unjustified. He may not be perfect, but he's here, playing for our team and actually playing pretty well. Yet, he gets constant disrespect from some posters. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

BNM