Game Thread Blazers vs Suns Summer League Game Thread

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
Natebishop3 said:
And Bayless has gone on to have a pretty long career. He's still in the league. Maybe he never turned into the star that some thought he would, but you can't question the fact that he's had a nice career.
Click to expand...
Solid career, a little disappointing as we all kinda hoped for a Westbrook-esque career for him but solid nonetheless.

But if we are talking about players who dominated SL, Josh Selby also comes to mind. It's really not the greatest place to judge talent. I mean some guys have "it" though, and it's undeniable, obviously none of our guys have that. That's okay though, we don't have another Dame on our summer league team.
 
Natebishop3 said:
And here's the key.... I don't care.

People said I was ridiculous for thinking that Crabbe would get paid a big contract.

People said I was ridiculous when I said Aldridge would leave two years before he did.

I don't care if I sound ridiculous. I call it like I see it.
Click to expand...
Predicting someone is gonna get paid a lot and predicting someone leaving in free agency isn't the same as saying Neil will factor a summer league scrimmage into whether or bit to match a near max contract. Apples to oranges.
 
BonesJones said:
Predicting someone is gonna get paid a lot and predicting someone leaving in free agency isn't the same as saying Neil will factor a summer league scrimmage into whether or bit to match a near max contract. Apples to oranges.
Click to expand...

Okay.

How many times have you interviewed NBA GM's?

How many NBA practices have you been to?

How many times have you talked to scouts and coaches?

I base my opinions on decades of experience. As I said, I call it like I see it.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Okay.

How many times have you interviewed NBA GM's?

How many NBA practices have you been to?

How many times have you talked to scouts and coaches?

I base my opinions on decades of experience. As I said, I call it like I see it.
Click to expand...
LOL. If we match because Pat Connaughton didn't hit 3 more shots to shoot an efficient percentage in one summer league game then that's comical.

I didn't know seeing NBA practices gave you insight on front office decisions.

I didn't know that interviews helped you understand what decisions are made privately behind closed doors.

I didn't know talking to scouts in the past gave you inside knowledge on the decision regarding Crabbe's offer sheet.

Oh wait, they don't...
 
BonesJones said:
Connaughton might just be a practice shooter...
Click to expand...

That's exactly what we were hearing about Allen Crabbe for his first two seasons.


Natebishop3 said:
Okay.

How many times have you interviewed NBA GM's?

How many NBA practices have you been to?

How many times have you talked to scouts and coaches?

I base my opinions on decades of experience. As I said, I call it like I see it.
Click to expand...

Link
Natebishop3 said:
The only guys on the bench that are worth a damn are Barton, Robinson, and Freeland.

I would keep CJ because he deserves a full summer and training camp. I don't have much faith in Crabbe, Claver, or Leonard. Wright, Mo, and Watson all need to go.
Click to expand...
 
noknobs said:
That's exactly what we were hearing about Allen Crabbe for his first two seasons.




Link
Click to expand...
Yeah that's why I said "might be". He deserves more time before judgments are made though.
 
BonesJones said:
LOL. If we match because Pat Connaughton didn't hit 3 more shots to shoot an efficient percentage in one summer league game then that's comical.

I didn't know seeing NBA practices gave you insight on front office decisions.

I didn't know that interviews helped you understand what decisions are made privately behind closed doors.

I didn't know talking to scouts in the past gave you inside knowledge on the decision regarding Crabbe's offer sheet.

Oh wait, they don't...
Click to expand...

My point, is that if you spend enough time around the NBA, you gain perspective on how things work. You meet the people who make these decisions. You gain insight on how personnel moves are made.

Yes, I think if someone had stepped up and showed that they were better than the competition, it might have made Neil's decision easier.

Obviously summer league isn't over. These guys can still have a good SL. But we have to decide about Crabbe tomorrow.
 
noknobs said:
That's exactly what we were hearing about Allen Crabbe for his first two seasons.




Link
Click to expand...

And look at those players that I listed. Claver is out of the league. Leonard is still a huge fucking questionmark. Wright never became a reliable rotation player. Crabbe didn't become a part of the rotation for another full season after that.
 
Barton = contender for 6th man of the year in Denver

TRob = starting for Brooklyn at the end of last year.

Freeland = I'm still bummed about Joel. He was a solid guy. Too bad he couldn't stay healthy.
 
Didn't watch the game but I'M SURE Pat cemented his spot in the lineup to replace Crabbe. I'm so glad WE CAN PUT THAT BEHIND US. He MUST shoot well enough to be in the rotation. PHEW!

(Puts fingers in ears and closes eyes.)

La la la la la la la! I can't hear you! Everything is fine! We can afford to lose Crabbe! Everything is fine!
 
Natebishop3 said:
My point, is that if you spend enough time around the NBA, you gain perspective on how things work. You meet the people who make these decisions. You gain insight on how personnel moves are made.

Yes, I think if someone had stepped up and showed that they were better than the competition, it might have made Neil's decision easier.

Obviously summer league isn't over. These guys can still have a good SL. But we have to decide about Crabbe tomorrow.
Click to expand...
The thing is, one day someone can drop 30, one day they can play bad and shoot poorly. You don't know what you have based off a sooner league game. It's not a big enough sample size at all. Definitely not a big enough sample size to make a huge roster decision. Even if Connaughton dropped 30, it's still just Summer League. Anyone can drop 30. Doesn't mean it translates. Doesn't mean that you should let go of your 6th man because of it and just hand Connaughton the minutes.
 
Natebishop3 said:
And look at those players that I listed. Claver is out of the league. Leonard is still a huge fucking questionmark. Wright never became a reliable rotation player. Crabbe didn't become a part of the rotation for another full season after that.
Click to expand...

Natebishop3 said:
Barton = contender for 6th man of the year in Denver

TRob = starting for Brooklyn at the end of last year.

Freeland = I'm still bummed about Joel. He was a solid guy. Too bad he couldn't stay healthy.
Click to expand...
Lmao Crabbe's better than Barton, Leonard's better than T-Rob, and Freeland couldn't even stay in the league.

But instead of admitting you were wrong you still try to twist logic to support yourself.
 
T-Rob isn't even a question mark. He sucks. He's barely in the league. Staying for the Brooklyn (lol) Nets doesn't validate anything.
 
BonesJones said:
Lmao Crabbe's better than Barton, Leonard's better than T-Rob, and Freeland couldn't even stay in the league.

But instead of admitting you were wrong you still try to twist logic to support yourself.
Click to expand...

Crabbe is better than Barton? Barton came in 4th in 6th man of the year voting. Crabbe was 16th.

Leonard was horrible last year. TRob was on fire at the end of the season.

Freeland is out of the league, but he was part of our rotation, and he was playing solid minutes until he got hurt. :dunno:

How was I wrong? I was talking about our shitty bench (one of the worst in the league at that time) two years ago.

Edit- sorry, it was THREE years ago. That post was from three fucking years ago lol
 
Natebishop3 said:
Crabbe is better than Barton? Barton came in 4th in 6th man of the year voting. Crabbe was 16th.

Leonard was horrible last year. TRob was on fire at the end of the season.

Freeland is out of the league, but he was part of our rotation, and he was playing solid minutes until he got hurt. :dunno:

How was I wrong? I was talking about our shitty bench (one of the worst in the league at that time) two years ago.
Click to expand...
That's because Barton's game is that of a 6th man spark plug and he got tons of touches playing for a bad Denver team. Leonard shot 45%/37% last year and battled injuries (the excuse you use for Freeland). Robinson had a couple good games for a super-shitty Nets team. They're not close.

You're vague, while also cherry picking small things and overemphasizing them combining them with twisted logic to try to support your opinions..
 
I can find 10 other 6 game stretches where T-Rob was buried on the bench on a shitty team.
 
BonesJones said:
That's because Barton's game is that of a 6th man spark plug and he got tons of touches playing for a bad Denver team. Leonard shot 45%/37% last year and battled injuries (the excuse you use for Freeland). Robinson had a couple good games for a super-shitty Nets team. They're not close.

You're vague, while also cherry picking small things and overemphasizing them combining them with twisted logic to try to support your opinions..
Click to expand...

So we're seriously going to dissect a post from three seasons ago? SERIOUSLY? Do you even realize how fucking lame that is? It was a post about our bench from three seasons ago, when our bench was AWFUL.

In that post, I say that Barton, Robinson, and Freeland are the only players worth a damn. Considering the state of our bench at that time, it doesn't mean much. We had one of the worst in the league. Barton has gone on to be one of the best 6th men in the league. Robinson actually got some burn at the end of last season and was playing well. Freeland.... I mean..... okay?

Meanwhile, I say that I don't have much faith in Crabbe, Claver, or Leonard. At that point Crabbe was a garbage time player. It was THREE seasons ago. Claver is out of the league. Leonard is STILL finding himself in and out of the rotation three years later. Do you have much faith in Leonard at this point, because I still don't.

Then, I go on to say that Wright, Mo, and Watson all need to go, and they DID. Mo and Watson were gone after that season, and Wright was gone after the following season. What part of that post do you disagree with exactly? Keep in mind, it was made THREE SEASONS AGO.
 
Crabbe better than Barton?

If you can re-do that atrocious Denver trade you ship out Crabbe and keep Barton.

Crabbe is a better outside shooter but is inferior to Barton in every other aspect.
 
Barton is the better overall player but Crabbe fits the team better imo. Barton does some majorly stupid things, well every player does but Barton plays the game like its 100-99 with 14 seconds left every play it feels like.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Barton is the better overall player but Crabbe fits the team better imo. Barton does some majorly stupid things, well every player does but Barton plays the game like its 100-99 with 14 seconds left every play it feels like.
Click to expand...
That's why I'll always find Barton endearing and captivating, but I would take Crabbe all day every day over Barton for organized basketball.
 
Crabbe will come out and look better for the Nets than he ever did for Portland, but he will also have a much bigger role than he would ever have with us.

Considering the similarities of the deals, and the skill sets of each player, I would definitely take Turner over Crabbe.
 
Barton/Crabbe are two very different players. Personally i'd rather have Crabbe and a big reason of that is that Crabbe plays well off the ball and doesn't need it in his hands. Barton is a better rebounder and a better dribbler, turns the ball over a little to much for how few assists he gets but is fairly good at finishing around the rim.
Crabbe is imo a better defender but they are close in that regard, only thing i'd bring up is we weren't afraid to ask Crabbe to guard the best player on the other team. Also Crabbe is a better SHOOTER not just outside shooter and moves well without the ball.
Barton wasn't known as a 3p shooter in college and has really only had 1 season, and that was last year, where he shot above 33% for the year and the way the league is going i'd rather have a 3 and D guy then someone who is at best inconsistent from 3. Also why I dont' want to lose Crabbe for Turner, gotta have someone who can come in and stretch the D when Turner is going to be a liability from there.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Crabbe better than Barton?

If you can re-do that atrocious Denver trade you ship out Crabbe and keep Barton.

Crabbe is a better outside shooter but is inferior to Barton in every other aspect.
Click to expand...
I love Will but this is not true. Crabbe is a better defender and better shooter, the two most valuable features for our purposes.

But Will may be available anyway: Gary Harris is the starter in Denver (they were just talking about it in SL) and they drafted Murray to push him.
 
Will is more JR Smith and Crabbe is more Rip Hamilton.

Actually Will and TRob are both Nate Robinson types: fan faves because they look so awesome when they're playing well, but overall not + players for the team. The very opposite of the "no-stat all-stars".
 
I would just like to point out that Kent fucking Bazemore got 17.5 million per year.

Bazemore averaged 11.6 ppg, 44% shooting, 35.7% from three, 5 rebounds, 2.3 assists, and 1.3 steals in 27.8 minutes per game.

http://bkref.com/tiny/mVP9H

Bazemore is 3 years older than Crabbe and an inch shorter.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Boise Blazer
Blazers Summer League Schedule
2 3
Replies
76
Views
6K
SlyPokerDog
SlyPokerDog
KingSpeed
Summer League: Game 4 vs Suns
Replies
2
Views
517
MrJayremmie
MrJayremmie
Boise Blazer
Blazers Summer League Schedule
Replies
4
Views
416
The_Lillard_King
T
Mediocre Man
The Official Trailblazers Summer League Thread..........
Replies
28
Views
990
Mediocre Man
Mediocre Man
Natebishop3
Lillard to play in summer league???
2
Replies
41
Views
2K
THE HCP
THE HCP

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top