Blazers want to bring Pritchard back now?

[Mediocre Man]

I don't understand why you're trying your best to put down KP. He's obviously a better candidate than the names that have been thrown out (Porter, Adelman, Brandon, etc, all whom have 0 experience as GM).

He is certainly more qualified than those guys, but his track record still isn't all that great when it comes to the draft, FA signings, and trades. I think more misses than hits, but that's just me. Letting it bake has netted us nothing. There were reports that KP was too attached to certain players, and I think that is a really poor quality in a GM.

 

[PapaG]

He is certainly more qualified than those guys, but his track record still isn't all that great when it comes to the draft, FA signings, and trades. I think more misses than hits, but that's just me. Letting it bake has netted us nothing. There were reports that KP was too attached to certain players, and I think that is a really poor quality in a GM.

The team won fewer games when he traded away those players, and even fewer games this season. Perhaps trading them was the bad move.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It was Nate that was attached to Outlaw and Blake. KP is attached to "his guys" That ones he has drafted. Listen, I like KP. He is a decent GM, but I think there is better out there. He made soem great moves here, but also made some not so great ones

 

[Blaze01]

Who?

Not seeing an awe inspiring list out there....

I'd be happy to see Pritchard back, if he would even come back.....

At least he knows how to communicate with Allen, probably would be a little more tight lipped and "team centric" when speaking to the public....

But then this is all so ridiculous....it reminds me of Steinbrenner and Billy Martin...that is how silly Paul Allen has become...Now if he could just mirror the same results as Steinbrenner and not Al Davis?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Al has won 3 superbowls and an ALF title. I would take that as well

 

[Wheels]

Al has won 3 superbowls and an ALF title. I would take that as well

I would take that too. But if I had a team and learned that Al Davis now would take over my team, I would run to the hills.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yep

 

[mook]

The Yankees hired (and fired) Billy Martin as manager five different times. So it's not exactly unprecedented to re-hire a guy.

I'm not thrilled or depressed about re-hiring KP. People seem to forget that the only reason we aren't paying Turkoglu a ridiculous salary is because Hedo walked away from it. KP (and the entire Blazers organization) was saved from an extremely incompetent move by sheer luck.

Compare that near-disaster to the sweet deal we got for Gerald Wallace, and Cho looks like the better option.

Anyway, Cho ain't coming back, and I guess I kind of know what to expect with KP. So I'd be ok with it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

If this happens that would be a stunning about-face for this upper management team (Vulcan, Hat-Guy, Allen, Koko the Chimp, Bozo the Clown, et al.) Why in God's name would KP consider coming back here after the way he was treated ... unless this is the best he can do?

 

[THE HCP]

I say bring him back! Was against his firing anyway. Guy turned this franchise around!

 

[Denny Crane]

I say bring him back! Was against his firing anyway. Guy turned this franchise around!

^^^ undrafted

 

[Wheels]

If this happens that would be a stunning about-face for this upper management team (Vulcan, Hat-Guy, Allen, Koko the Chimp, Bozo the Clown, et al.) Why in God's name would KP consider coming back here after the way he was treated ... unless this is the best he can do?

QFT

 

[Stevenson]

The only person I have ever heard say that Steve Patterson ran that 06 draft is . . . Steve Patterson.

Bringing back KP would be the best. And sort of like Steinbrenner and Billy Martin - they were better together than apart, even though they had their differences.

 

[blazedanugz]

Blazers considering bringing KP back??????

http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infom...min&feed:c=sports&feed:i=1.2932600&nopaging=1

"Pritchard, however, might not be an option for long. Coincidentally, two weeks ago, the Blazers fired Pritchard's replacement, Rich Cho, and an NBA source said Trail Blazers owner Paul Allen 's staff recently discussed bringing Pritchard back."

 

[blazedanugz]

Re: Blazers considering bringing KP back??????

woops sorry guys didnt see the other thread

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Blazers considering bringing KP back??????

I'd love to have Pritchard back. I don't think he was one of the greatest GMs in basketball history, but I do think he was really good. As far as his general lack of making (non-draft) trades, I think a large part of that was the fact that he was, at the time, sitting on a really great young core and making a move of significance would have meant trading away from that. None of the players was untouchable, but unless a deal was fantastic, I can understand him choosing not to break up a Roy/Oden/Aldridge/Batum core.

Now, there have been some changes. Roy is no longer an elite player and projects never to be again. Oden suffered another lost season. Batum stagnated. On the upside, Aldridge is now an All-NBA player. But overall, Pritchard is no longer sitting on a straight flush, so my guess is that he'd be more apt to make moves.

In any case, I like what Pritchard built when he was GM and, while I didn't dislike Cho in the short time he was GM, I'd rather have Pritchard.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think that would be great personally.

I do too. I liked his calculating boldness.

 

[STOMP]

If you want to believe a schmuck like Steve Patterson instead of the owner of the franchise then that's on you.

I heard KP himself credit Patterson the days following the draft as the guy who pulled off the deals working the phones. He credited many within management and PA for deciding on who to target.

thats entirely consistent with what Patterson has claimed since. Is that on me for believing a schmuck like Patterson & KP?

STOMP

 

[Mediocre Man]

In before a link is demanded

 

[Wheels]

LINK PLEASE

 

[Wheels]

damn

 

[magnifier661]

I heard KP himself credit Patterson the days following the draft as the guy who pulled off the deals working the phones. He credited many within management and PA for deciding on who to target.

thats entirely consistent with what Patterson has claimed since. Is that on me for believing a schmuck like Patterson & KP?

STOMP

I have never read or heard such a thing. Please enlighten me to this comment.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I have never read or heard such a thing. Please enlighten me to this comment.

If I'm not mistaken, he did that right here......

I heard KP himself credit Patterson the days following the draft as the guy who pulled off the deals working the phones. He credited many within management and PA for deciding on who to target.

 

[Minstrel]

I heard KP himself credit Patterson the days following the draft as the guy who pulled off the deals working the phones. He credited many within management and PA for deciding on who to target.

thats entirely consistent with what Patterson has claimed since. Is that on me for believing a schmuck like Patterson & KP?

Every front office is a group effort, in sports or business. I don't have any issue with giving credit to the people Pritchard surrounded himself with. It's just when people (not you) pretend it's not really a credit to Pritchard and it shouldn't really count as part of his record, as if other GMs do things all by themselves but Pritchard was just along for the ride, that I think it becomes silly. Many hands are involved in what a team does, but the GM is the lead executive. He's the one who sets the agenda and determines the path.

Allen was fairly clear that Pritchard ran that draft. We can give others in front office credit for helping Pritchard get who he wanted, but then we have to do the same for all other GMs, like RC Buford, Sam Presti, etc.

 

[magnifier661]

If I'm not mistaken, he did that right here......

That is his words. I can say "I heard GO speak about how he will sign a extension" and that won't mean shit unless there was an actual quote or link.

 

[tlongII]

The Yankees hired (and fired) Billy Martin as manager five different times. So it's not exactly unprecedented to re-hire a guy.

I'm not thrilled or depressed about re-hiring KP. People seem to forget that the only reason we aren't paying Turkoglu a ridiculous salary is because Hedo walked away from it. KP (and the entire Blazers organization) was saved from an extremely incompetent move by sheer luck.

Compare that near-disaster to the sweet deal we got for Gerald Wallace, and Cho looks like the better option.

Anyway, Cho ain't coming back, and I guess I kind of know what to expect with KP. So I'd be ok with it.

People also seem to forget that Millsap was KP's first FA choice, not Turkoglu.

 

[magnifier661]

People also seem to forget that Millsap was KP's first FA choice, not Turkoglu.

Millsap would have been great, but I do like Matthews and Wallace as being the benefactor of losing out on that first choice.

 

[PapaG]

So ... anybody else not finding KP's words about Patterson running the '06 draft?

Should I assume that poster was just talking out of his ass?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I remember it from the radio, so I will have no link. Must not be true

 

[Mediocre Man]

Millsap would have been great, but I do like Matthews and Wallace as being the benefactor of losing out on that first choice.

I think Milsap was his second choice? They were all about Hedo at 12:01 am on the first day they could contact someone

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/06/blazers_pursue_hedo_turkoglu_a.html

The Trail Blazers' summer agenda was revealed late Tuesday night at the minute the free agent market opened. That's when general manager Kevin Pritchard and assistant general manager Tom Penn called agent Lon Babby to begin the courtship of small forward Hedo Turkoglu.

"Kevin Pritchard and Tom Penn called me at the earliest possible moment and expressed enthusiasm for engaging in discussions about Hedo becoming a Trail Blazer," Babby said late Tuesday night. "We have begun that process."