Blockbuster trade idea

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BillBrasky said:
Leonard is not our backup center. Freeland is. While he's still rough, he's an inside guy which is what we need more than a seven foot outside shooter. Remember, we have the highest scoring offense in the league. As deficient as our defense has been, this disrupts our offense. Jackson is not better than Williams at this point. He may become better just about the time he would leave. McCollum is too much of a question mark. Frankly, I would like to see how he pans out. We were probably lucky to get him in such a weak draft, but the potential is there.
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Personally, I agree with the idea of trading for Hawes, but I wouldn't want to give up much more than Leonard and Wright for him. Barton too. The idea of a Hawes/Freeland/Robinson reserve frontcourt makes me tingle just a little bit. With CJ's emergence, Wright is clearly expendable, since Matthews can slide up to the 3 when Batum is out, as can Crabbe or Claver for a few minutes if necessary. In fact, Hawes' presence could open up playing time for Claver, in that having an outside threat at center would accomodate a non-shooting, good-at-everything-else SF.

The proposed deal for Jackson is not only unrealistic for OKC, but detrimental to us, IMO. Dealing for Hawes would be great though.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Personally, I agree with the idea of trading for Hawes, but I wouldn't want to give up much more than Leonard and Wright for him. Barton too. The idea of a Hawes/Freeland/Robinson reserve frontcourt makes me tingle just a little bit. With CJ's emergence, Wright is clearly expendable, since Matthews can slide up to the 3 when Batum is out, as can Crabbe or Claver for a few minutes if necessary. In fact, Hawes' presence could open up playing time for Claver, in that having an outside threat at center would accomodate a non-shooting, good-at-everything-else SF.

The proposed deal for Jackson is not only unrealistic for OKC, but detrimental to us, IMO. Dealing for Hawes would be great though.
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The Hawes part of your proposal is intriguing and would still give us two bench banging types. I don't dislike Hawes. I just think he plays a particular role. In your scenario, it could be a good deal for the reasons you mention. It also would seem to open up a roster spot or two which could be filled by a young, project type guy.
 
I am still in awe that this forum can have a civilized debate, there is hope yet.
 
Hawes is a UFA after this season. Watching him leave after giving up Ropez would be a risk too big to take.
 
cmeese47 said:
The trade threads with the most posts seem to be full of people trolling. My thread has not had many replies but at least people like Bill make civil arguments,
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I appreciate the shout out. Even if I don't agree with something, there's no need to throw a tantrum. It's a matter of acting as an adult, saying my peace and moving on.
 
BillBrasky said:
I appreciate the shout out. Even if I don't agree with something, there's no need to throw a tantrum. It's a matter of acting as an adult, saying my peace and moving on.
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Hey you earned the shout out and the rep I gave you for a post I even disagreed with.
 
PapaG said:
Hawes is a UFA after this season. Watching him leave after giving up Ropez would be a risk too big to take.
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Yeah, nobody's interested in Hawes as a replacement for Lopez, just as a supplement to him.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yeah, nobody's interested in Hawes as a replacement for Lopez, just as a supplement to him.
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So Portland rents him for the rest of the year until he becomes a UFA? He'll get over $8m/per, IMO, from someone this summer.
 
PapaG said:
So Portland rents him for the rest of the year until he becomes a UFA? He'll get over $8m/per, IMO, from someone this summer.
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The only way he's worth that to Portland is as a hybrid 4/5 backup, which I don't see because of Robinson. If Portland wants to give up on TRob, then it might be worth it to have someone like Hawes who can play both frontcourt positions and could easily step into the starting lineup if either Aldridge or Lopez had to sit out a few games
 
PapaG said:
So Portland rents him for the rest of the year until he becomes a UFA? He'll get over $8m/per, IMO, from someone this summer.
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Of course, the only way Olshey makes this deal is if he thinks that Hawes is potentially a good long-term fit as a 3rd big with LA and Lopez, with the knowledge that we would be unable to sign him this offseason without bird rights. And even if he did choose to sign elsewhere, Leonard/Wright is not a terrible rental price for a sweet-shooting 7-footer with excellent passing skills.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Of course, the only way Olshey makes this deal is if he thinks that Hawes is potentially a good long-term fit as a 3rd big with LA and Lopez, with the knowledge that we would be unable to sign him this offseason without bird rights. And even if he did choose to sign elsewhere, Leonard/Wright is not a terrible rental price for a sweet-shooting 7-footer with excellent passing skills.
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Agreed. If Olshey thinks the time is now, you go for it because opportunities don't come along that often. I think Hawes could be a 4-5 year fit for that window of opportunity to go with Aldridge and Fropez. In 5 years, the oldest of that group would be 33.

His passing ability is underestimated I believe and if he can get 3.5 assists for Philly, what could he do for Portland?

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Would I be a racist if I thought a post "Blackbuster trade idea" with a link trading all black Blazers for all white players would be funny?
 
PapaG said:
So Portland rents him for the rest of the year until he becomes a UFA? He'll get over $8m/per, IMO, from someone this summer.
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I think he'll get at least that much. Philly is in good shape cap space wise. They may sign him as part of their young core.
 
He played really well last year too and only got 6.5 MIL this year didn't he?
 
Hobbesarable said:
I think he'll get at least that much. Philly is in good shape cap space wise. They may sign him as part of their young core.
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The trade in the OP is made, and then Hawes re-signs with Philly this summer.

The outrage on this board would be almost worth having that happen.
 
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