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Brown has given up on the idea of Sean May as a starting PF. He is so out of shape he had more personal fouls than rebounds in the Bobcats 0-7 preseason. Now they have a gaping hole at PF they don't know how to fill. They are also showcasing Adam Morrison, in hopes of trading him. They extended his contract so a prospective trading partner would feel comfortable about having him around for more than a year.

http://www.nba.com/2008/news/10/25/102508bobcats_may.ap/index.html?rss=true
 
well, May on this team would do us no good. how about Morrison? how's he?
 
well, May on this team would do us no good. how about Morrison? how's he?

I was not trying to suggest the Nets take May, who is done in the NBA. Morrison is a risk. He is owed $9.4 million over two years and is coming back from ACL surgery. He doesn't play defense but he can (or at least could) shoot. He would be a Shaun Livingston-type acquisition. You would be taking him on spec, hoping that by the end of this year, he would return to form.

Swift by the way makes too much money for a straight up deal...and for the first time in years, the Bobcats are at the salary cap. Sean Williams on the other hand makes too little and could still have value. So it would have to be a multi-player deal.

Just speculating.
 
i think the nets right now have enough to worry about building chemestry and finding rolls for everone on the team as it is. they shouldnt worry about bringing in any more pieces at this time.
 
Stro + Sean for Gerald Wallace?
he earns 9,5 mill in 2010 (according to storytellers...)
I'm not sure if we can still offer a max contract to LeBron that way...
but if we trade Vince for expirers this year or next, it wouldn't be a problem...
 
Stro + Sean for Gerald Wallace?
he earns 9,5 mill in 2010 (according to storytellers...)
I'm not sure if we can still offer a max contract to LeBron that way...
but if we trade Vince for expirers this year or next, it wouldn't be a problem...

Are you trying to say that you would rather have Gerald Wallace than VC??
 
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP)—Lacking depth in the frontcourt, the Charlotte Bobcats were depending on Sean May’s healthy return from knee surgery to fill the gaping hole at power forward.

After watching an unfit May lumber through eight exhibition games collecting more fouls (22) than rebounds (21), coach Larry Brown believes they have a problem.

“Right now I don’t think he’s ready to play at all,” Brown said Saturday. “I think he’s trying, but I don’t think he’s in the kind of shape to be able to compete on this level and do all the things he’s capable of doing.”

Brown had an extended talk with Bobcats managing partner Michael Jordan and general manager Rod Higgins after the workout. With May breathing heavy and with no consistent player behind him, the Bobcats face big trouble up front as they prepare to open the season Thursday at Cleveland.

“It’s going to be a committee right now,” Brown said when asked who would play power forward. That’s what I’ve been talking to Michael and Rod about.”

May, who led North Carolina to a national championship, has played in only 58 of a possible 246 games since he was selected 13th overall in the 2005 draft. He sat out all of last season after undergoing microfracture surgery on his right knee.

Already criticized for being too puffy in the middle, May spent 14 weeks on crutches and his weight soared. May has been slow to regain his conditioning since being cleared to play 5-on-5 in September.

May started all eight games in Charlotte’s winless preseason, but foul trouble limited him to 16 minutes per game. He averaged just 5.1 points and 2.6 rebounds and shot 33 percent from the field.

“I’ve got to get in better shape. I’ve got to get in better condition,” May said. “I haven’t played in so long that, boom, it’s hit me smack dab in the face. I’m picking up some early fouls due to being out of position. My timing is a little off. Now, here in a week we’re getting ready to play, so I’ve got to do a lot of work.”

It leaves Brown, beginning his record ninth NBA head coaching job, in a tough spot. Brown wants to keep Emeka Okafor at center and Gerald Wallace at small forward. But there’s little behind May at power forward on a team that was consistently outrebounded last season.

Alexis Ajinca, a 7-footer from France, was taken with Charlotte’s second first-round pick in June. But Ajinca is extremely raw and rail-thin and Brown has labeled him a project.

Jermareo Davidson and Ryan Hollins did little in the preseason. Andre Brown, signed to a non-guaranteed deal before camp, will likely make the team and see minutes.

May’s fitness and the depth issues have led Brown to conclude they’ll have to play at a slower pace than he would like—until perhaps they reshape the roster.

“I was hoping we could pressure and we could run,” Brown said. “But with Sean physically like he is and with us not being real deep right now, especially with the big guys, I think we’ve got to play a little bit closer to the vest. That doesn’t mean that’s how we want to play in the future.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-bobcats-may&prov=ap&type=lgns

Yet this team is better than the Nets, according to the "experts."

One down.
 
I'd be hesitant in picking up any player that plays SF past 2010. Even if we can't get Lebron, there will still be some options there.
 
I'd be hesitant in picking up any player that plays SF past 2010. Even if we can't get Lebron, there will still be some options there.

Morrison contract runs through 2010, no further unless the team he's on extends him. That's why he intrigues me.
Kiki has professed love of "fallen angels" and so far has acquired three of them: Yi, Simmons and Hayes.
 
Morrison contract runs through 2010, no further unless the team he's on extends him. That's why he intrigues me.
Kiki has professed love of "fallen angels" and so far has acquired three of them: Yi, Simmons and Hayes.
Swift too.
 
If he weren't supposedly suffering tendinitis in the same knee he blew out, I would do a swap centering on Sean Williams for Morrison. That added issue makes it considerably less appealing.

I suppose it's still worth considering if they would take Hassell and Sean for Morrison, as that more than offsets the Morrison salary for next year and frees up an extra roster spot this year to boot, which we badly need to fill with a 3rd PG.
 
Sean Williams and Emeka Okafor would form the most offensively limited front court in the league, by far. I don't think they'd trade one of their most prized draft picks for Sean Williams and peanuts. They need a PF who can score.
 
Sean Williams and Emeka Okafor would form the most offensively limited front court in the league, by far. I don't think they'd trade one of their most prized draft picks for Sean Williams and peanuts. They need a PF who can score.

Perhaps you aren't aware, but Morrison is regarded as a major bust in Charlotte and around the league. He's even had several DNP-CD in preseason when he is in severe need of game minutes after a year off from a torn ACL. Many in Charlotte question even the decision to pick up his option. Yes, he's thought to be that bad.
 
Perhaps you aren't aware, but Morrison is regarded as a major bust in Charlotte and around the league. He's even had several DNP-CD in preseason when he is in severe need of game minutes after a year off from a torn ACL. Many in Charlotte question even the decision to pick up his option. Yes, he's thought to be that bad.

Teams usually aren't that eager to trade away a 3rd overall pick, no matter how big a bust they turn out to be (see Milicic, Darko). Obviously after a huge injury like the one he sustained people are going to question him and the Bobcats for picking him 3rd, but he really hasn't had that much of a chance to prove himself. He played his rookie season and then missed his entire sophomore year, when struggling rookies (actually, most rookies) usually make the jump the the next level.

Teams are always in need of good shooters, and you can't argue that Morrison can't shoot. He's rusty and he's definitely not as sharp from the NBA 3 as he was from the college line but he's still a good shooter. The Bobcats can probably get more from trading him than a uber-crappy contract and a struggling big man with no offense.
 
Teams usually aren't that eager to trade away a 3rd overall pick, no matter how big a bust they turn out to be (see Milicic, Darko). Obviously after a huge injury like the one he sustained people are going to question him and the Bobcats for picking him 3rd, but he really hasn't had that much of a chance to prove himself. He played his rookie season and then missed his entire sophomore year, when struggling rookies (actually, most rookies) usually make the jump the the next level.

Teams are always in need of good shooters, and you can't argue that Morrison can't shoot. He's rusty and he's definitely not as sharp from the NBA 3 as he was from the college line but he's still a good shooter. The Bobcats can probably get more from trading him than a uber-crappy contract and a struggling big man with no offense.

I could very easily argue that Morrison can't shoot at the pro level with NBA-caliber athletes defending and closing out. His shooting percentages for games he has played back that up. That doesn't mean he will always shoot so poorly, if he has another year or two to adjust and grow his game, which is the only reason a team like the Nets would trade for him.

More importantly, though, I think you're overlooking the beat and other reports out of Charlotte that Jordan is shopping Morrison hoping to find a taker. They WANT to trade him, thus he is not the "highly prized" former #3 to them that you suppose.

The Darko situation was different. He was very, very young (just turned 19 when drafted, I believe), 6'11", huge, and was playing on a veteran, championship-caliber team with a deep front court. They had ample time to let him mature behind the scenes. By conventional wisdom, you don't give up on big, young, talented centers nearly as quickly as you do frail, 6'7" wing shooters with no other NBA-level skills because there's a fairly abundant supply of the latter every year.
 
I could very easily argue that Morrison can't shoot at the pro level with NBA-caliber athletes defending and closing out. His shooting percentages for games he has played back that up. That doesn't mean he will always shoot so poorly, if he has another year or two to adjust and grow his game, which is the only reason a team like the Nets would trade for him.

More importantly, though, I think you're overlooking the beat and other reports out of Charlotte that Jordan is shopping Morrison hoping to find a taker. They WANT to trade him, thus he is not the "highly prized" former #3 to them that you suppose.

The Darko situation was different. He was very, very young (just turned 19 when drafted, I believe), 6'11", huge, and was playing on a veteran, championship-caliber team with a deep front court. They had ample time to let him mature behind the scenes. By conventional wisdom, you don't give up on big, young, talented centers nearly as quickly as you do frail, 6'7" wing shooters with no other NBA-level skills because there's a fairly abundant supply of the latter every year.

First off, I always take rumors like that with a grain of salt if no one is directly quoted. My "sources" can tell me stuff, too. That doesn't mean it's right. The reports could be true, but if they are my point is that Charlotte would probably want more in return for Morrison than Sean Williams and Trent Hassell. The Nets WANTED to trade Jason Kidd, but I'm not sure they would have traded him to New Orleans for Jannero Pargo and draft picks (obviously I'm exaggerating, but I hope my point is clear). By trading away such a high pick so quickly for less value, you're admitting failure and NBA GMs and owners are usually proud men who don't like to admit they made a mistake. Especially Michael Jordan. So if you do decide to trade such a player, you usually search for something in the trade that would "redeem" you, and Sean Williams sure isn't a guy who would make Jordan look good for trading away a guy picked ahead of Brandon Roy, Randy Foye, Rudy Gay etc.
 
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