Booooooooooooooooone!

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 27 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 27 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As Dumpy noted, Boone did a NUMBER on the most dominant big man in the game and in the process tied LaMarcus Aldridge for the most double double by a member of the draft class of 2006.

Yet you "FANS" sit around complain, complain, complain/argue, argue, argue about whether he blew a defensive assignment or whether he or Marcus Williams is better...Williams having averaged 12 and 8 since Kidd left and has helped the Nets open up the offense.

Jesus Christ, does anyone here have ANY perspective...any at all. It appears not. These two kids were drafted #22 and #23.

Get a clue.</div>

The Magic announcers had nice things to say about Boone . . . although conceding that Dwight Howard was not a "boxer-outer," one of the more ridiculous things I've heard an announcer say recently. Anyway, they recognized that Josh was the Nets' best player on the floor; that he was playing Howard about as well as one can play Howard, and that the team seemed to flounder when he left the court.

Josh won't be a star, but that's the wrong standard to hold him to. Historically, the odds of a non-lottery big man becoming a solid rotation contributor are not very good, and Boone is clearly beating those odds. The fact that the Nets have potentially THREE non-lottery big men that are solid rotation guys is statistically improbable, and more than erases the Antoine Wright selection in my mind (especially since the Nets apparently were going to take McCants, and other than Granger, none of the other candidates have really lit it up).
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lets not get crazy here, granger is an all star player in this league, was a potential lottery pick, and played the same position as wright while we draft wright, a scrub who will be out of the league soon. that mistake is still hurting the nets right now and will hurt them until they find a guy who can fill that role for the nets

 

[Dumpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 27 2008, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 27 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 27 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As Dumpy noted, Boone did a NUMBER on the most dominant big man in the game and in the process tied LaMarcus Aldridge for the most double double by a member of the draft class of 2006.

Yet you "FANS" sit around complain, complain, complain/argue, argue, argue about whether he blew a defensive assignment or whether he or Marcus Williams is better...Williams having averaged 12 and 8 since Kidd left and has helped the Nets open up the offense.

Jesus Christ, does anyone here have ANY perspective...any at all. It appears not. These two kids were drafted #22 and #23.

Get a clue.</div>

The Magic announcers had nice things to say about Boone . . . although conceding that Dwight Howard was not a "boxer-outer," one of the more ridiculous things I've heard an announcer say recently. Anyway, they recognized that Josh was the Nets' best player on the floor; that he was playing Howard about as well as one can play Howard, and that the team seemed to flounder when he left the court.

Josh won't be a star, but that's the wrong standard to hold him to. Historically, the odds of a non-lottery big man becoming a solid rotation contributor are not very good, and Boone is clearly beating those odds. The fact that the Nets have potentially THREE non-lottery big men that are solid rotation guys is statistically improbable, and more than erases the Antoine Wright selection in my mind (especially since the Nets apparently were going to take McCants, and other than Granger, none of the other candidates have really lit it up).
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lets not get crazy here, granger is an all star player in this league, was a potential lottery pick, and played the same position as wright while we draft wright, a scrub who will be out of the league soon. that mistake is still hurting the nets right now and will hurt them until they find a guy who can fill that role for the nets
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You're the one who is getting crazy here. For one thing, Granger is not an "all-star" until he has played in an all-star game. Regardless, the Nets have been one of the more successful teams in the draft over the past five-eight years, even accounting for their run-the-table failures in the second round. Granger had enough health issues that ten other teams passed on him from when he was generally projected to be selected. Joey Graham, Yaroslav Korolev, Ike Diogu, Sean May, Fran Vazquez, and Channing Frye were also selected before Granger. You're overrating the Granger failure and underrating the successes. I think the best argument you have is that while the Nets have had tremendous success drafting big men in the third quarter of the first round, they've been an absolute failure at drafting swingmen, and lump Wright with Brandon Armstrong and Zoran. That better change this year.

 

[Dumpy]

I mean, listen. Let's look how other teams have done in the draft over the past five years. Actually, I'll limit it to four years--I won't count the 2007 draft because it is too soon to evaluate. During those years, the Magic drafted Dwight Howard #1 overall, and Reece Gaines, Fran Vazquez, and JJ Redick. Yuck. Washington drafted Jarvis Hayes and Pecherov. After Collison and Ridnour five years ago, Seattle took Swift, Petro, and Sene. Cleveland followed up the no-brainer LeBron pick with Luke Jackson and Shannon Brown. Not counting Granger, Indiana took David Harrison and Shawne Williams. Houston has only come away with Luther Head.

No team has hit a home run every draft. Some teams' records look good because they had a top-five pick or two, which the Nets haven't had. Even Portland, who has stockpiked young talent, has had a terrible draft record until very recently. You want the Nets to have a perfect record when it comes to the draft, but that just isn't feasible.

 

[Legacy]

I had a gut feeling he would do good. Too bad RJ got crapped on my Hedo and got fouled out.

 

[#1_Josh_Boone_Fan]

Just happy people. Boone is one of the better young bigs in the NBA. Had he went a year before he would of been a lottery pick, and he feel maily because people questioned did he really want to play.

I still like to seee Josh get mean and aruge calls that are wrong, but that anit the Kid's persoanlity.

 

[SportsTicker]

Marcus Williams has proved this week that with NO warmup he can run an NBA team. 12 points and 8 assists in four games, with highs of 25 and 13 is damn good for a kid coming off the bench, coming off a major injury and coming after a Hall of Famer.

He has defensive deficiencies...no shit.

Boone may not be an all-Star, but if he averages a double-double (which we now know he is capable of) he'd be damn close.

You find me a team that has done better with two picks below 20 in a single draft.

Rather than complain and find fault, be grateful the Nets didnt do what they wanted to do in 2006: trade those picks to Seattle so they could take Saer Sene or Hilton Armstrong in the lottery.

 

[Charles]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 28 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rather than complain and find fault, be grateful the Nets didnt do what they wanted to do in 2006: trade those picks to Seattle so they could take Saer Sene or Hilton Armstrong in the lottery.</div>

Yeah, that would kinda suck. Marcus is a nice compliment to Harris, hopefully he doesn't get upset if he has to come off the bench again.

 

[jirohkanzaki]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Feb 28 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 28 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rather than complain and find fault, be grateful the Nets didnt do what they wanted to do in 2006: trade those picks to Seattle so they could take Saer Sene or Hilton Armstrong in the lottery.</div>

Yeah, that would kinda suck. Marcus is a nice compliment to Harris, hopefully he doesn't get upset if he has to come off the bench again.
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yeah...i hope they would both get 20 minutes per game but knowing frank's preference for defense no matter whatever else you give up means marcus will play 10-15 minutes again...

marcus doesn't seem like he will be a defensive player ever so to get playing time under frank he should:

1. shoot 40% from 3 and become that shooter we need.
2. can't move your feet very well? learn to flop (watch vlade divac/john stockton/manu ginobilli videos).
3. get at least one 20-assist game every season.

 

[Netted]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Feb 28 2008, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Feb 28 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 28 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rather than complain and find fault, be grateful the Nets didnt do what they wanted to do in 2006: trade those picks to Seattle so they could take Saer Sene or Hilton Armstrong in the lottery.</div>

Yeah, that would kinda suck. Marcus is a nice compliment to Harris, hopefully he doesn't get upset if he has to come off the bench again.
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yeah...i hope they would both get 20 minutes per game but knowing frank's preference for defense no matter whatever else you give up means marcus will play 10-15 minutes again...

marcus doesn't seem like he will be a defensive player ever so to get playing time under frank he should:

1. shoot 40% from 3 and become that shooter we need.
2. can't move your feet very well? learn to flop (watch vlade divac/john stockton/manu ginobilli videos).
3. get at least one 20-assist game every season.
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Frank is not that in love with defense... he does play Boki. The good thing with Harris is there will be more opportunity for Marcus because he can play in the backcourt with Harris who is a better defender than Carter. There will probably be 3 good defenders on the court at all times now.

 

[ly_yng]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 28 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marcus Williams has proved this week that with NO warmup he can run an NBA team. 12 points and 8 assists in four games, with highs of 25 and 13 is damn good for a kid coming off the bench, coming off a major injury and coming after a Hall of Famer.

He has defensive deficiencies...no shit.

Boone may not be an all-Star, but if he averages a double-double (which we now know he is capable of) he'd be damn close.

You find me a team that has done better with two picks below 20 in a single draft.

Rather than complain and find fault, be grateful the Nets didnt do what they wanted to do in 2006: trade those picks to Seattle so they could take Saer Sene or Hilton Armstrong in the lottery.</div>

Celtics got Tony Allen and Delonte West back to back in 2004.

Pistons got Maxiel and Amir Johnson in 2005.

Celtics got Leon Powe and Rajon Rondo in 2006.

I can't really see Marcus ever being an effective bench player, and I don't think he's good enough to start. I hope I'm wrong because he's really talented and could help us a lot, but these last few starts have done nothing to dissuade me of that perception.