BREAKING: CHAUNCEY BILLUPS ARRESTED BY FBI FOR ILLEGAL GAMBLING (18 Viewers)

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bigbailes said:
My favorite part of all this are the people thinking Trump orchestrated all this to "Attack Portland" when the FBI has been investigating this for years. Not sure what is so convenient about the ways people cheat in poker, there are a bunch of tactics used and I never put anything past anyone when it comes to taking $ off someone else.
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I mean I don't know if it's an attack against our city necessarily but I do think waiting until right after opening night in the NBA to arrest Chauncey and Rozier was a little fuck you to the league at the very least. Seriously after a four year investigation, yesterday was the day that they execute arrest warrants and I'm supposed to think that has nothing to do with the vindictive nature of the current US Justice Department???
 
blazerkor said:
I mean I don't know if it's an attack against our city necessarily but I do think waiting until right after opening night in the NBA to arrest Chauncey and Rozier was a little fuck you to the league at the very least. Seriously after a four year investigation, yesterday was the day that they execute arrest warrants and I'm supposed to think that has nothing to do with the vindictive nature of the current US Justice Department???
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Again, this is an Eastern District of NY investigation. So it's NY based. This could have been because a reporter in NY heard something or some of those arrested we're getting ready to leave. Or it was just time to arrest them.

If the FBI really wanted to fuck Portland and the Blazers, they would have arrested Chauncey as he was getting ready to leave for our opening night game. Imagine the chaos if Billups wasn't in the arena before kickoff.

Chauncey is the name that is getting the press's attention, but when this goes RICO, and I'm sure it will, he will not be the focus of the prosecution. That's the mafia.
 
I’m going to say it again no way it stops at poker for Billups, unfortunately once mafia has their hooks in you they are going to take full advantage. No way they wouldnt exploit the fact they have big fish in NBA that can make them a hell of lot more money by betting on NBA games where they know the outcome. I hope it’s not true for Billups and his families sake but my gut tells me it was happening.

Question the becomes who does he give up to save his ass
 
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Leaked photo of Billups at 2019 poker game

Players said quote “I don’t know why he was dressed like that, but it was an honor to share the table with him”
 
What will be interesting to me is if Chauncey's defense is that he had no idea about that cheating and that he did take payments to go to these poker games but it was his understanding that the payments were because he is a celebrity and his presence would attract more players.

I guess if the DOJ has witnesses that say that Chauncey was aware of the grift that it will be harder on Chauncey but unless there is a paper trail where Chauncey's position in the grift was specifically communicated to him, I think it will be very hard for the DOJ to prove Chauncey's guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
 
blazerkor said:
What will be interesting to me is if Chauncey's defense is that he had no idea about that cheating and that he did take payments to go to these poker games but it was his understanding that the payments were because he is a celebrity and his presence would attract more players.

I guess if the DOJ has witnesses that say that Chauncey was aware of the grift that it will be harder on Chauncey but unless there is a paper trail where Chauncey's position in the grift was specifically communicated to him, I think it will be very hard for the DOJ to prove Chauncey's guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
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right....and when Chauncey talked to the gambler and gave him inside information about injury status he was just innocently talking to a friend

when the FBI is part of an indictment, the conviction rate is over 90%. I'd think when the FBI is partnered with the Eastern District of NY the conviction rate is even higher. I'd imagine that the feds have had wiretap authority on targets in these cases for years, so there may be a lot more than a paper trail

I don't believe the indictments are over, or that all the charges have been filed yet. With the crime families involved I'd bet the feds are working on RICO charges. And as Pablo Torre pointed out, Chauncey is a primary in both the betting schemes and the poker frauds. If RICO charges are coming Chauncey has plenty of exposure
 
The NBA is a billion dollar business, plain and simple. The game is a distant second in importance.
I've said for a long time, you can tell which games will be influenced early on, it's not necessarily just the calls at the end of the game. I don't believe they want to control who wins, but keep the games close so the fans stay tuned in.
I see three different ways where I think the league influences games.
1) Early foul calls to get an important player out of the game early. Bad calls at the end of games are too obvious. Help the underdog build a lead early to avoid a blowout.
2) Several cheap fouls on team A to start the 4th quarter. This usually means that team A will then benefit with good calls at the end the game. This keeps the foul count even so team B can't say 'look at the foul numbers'.
3) Lopsided calls throughout the game to set up big comebacks late. GS, Boston, NY, LAL, etc seem to go into the 4th qtr behind by too much to weak teams setting up exciting big comebacks. This is often the best time to bet on the big market team making a comeback to win, or at the least cover the spread once the oddsmakers adjust it. This is when I've made the most money. If #1 or #2 happen, it's a good indicator that something is afoot.
 
cheesehoff said:
The NBA is a billion dollar business, plain and simple. The game is a distant second in importance.
I've said for a long time, you can tell which games will be influenced early on, it's not necessarily just the calls at the end of the game. I don't believe they want to control who wins, but keep the games close so the fans stay tuned in...
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I usually get laughed at when I make these claims because people think it's crazy that the league would actually rig games. I've always thought is was crazy that people thought they didn't. When you're talking about tens of millions of dollars, people will do unthinkable things out of greed. A lot of rich people can be absolutely ruthless in pursuit of more money. It's never enough.
 
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