Politics BREAKING: National security adviser Michael Flynn has resigned.

[barfo]

Really! A lot? I guess you speculate.

Sure, I'm speculating that people with no experience at something might be incompetent at it.

How good a job do you think I'd do building a boat, given that I don't know shit about boats? And how is that different than, say, Ben Carson leading HUD?

How many did Obama fire? Petraeus is the only one I remember.

Well, he fired Michael Flynn...

barfo

 

[Rastapopoulos]

You automatically won't like his replacement, so it'll soon go back to 0-0.

1. It's not automatic. Flynn was a psycho, so almost anybody would be better. (And I actually quite like Mattis.)
2. Even if I don't, Flynn is still down. Him being replaced doesn't equal him getting back up.

 

[MarAzul]

I think it will be interesting to see how many at the CIA get fired for leeking they Flynn story. Not only is it breaking the law to record the conversation, they were so hot to burn Flynn, they gave up the
in they had to listen in on the Russians.

There is a nest a rats yet to be exposed.

 

[MarAzul]

he fired Michael Flynn

I think that is a fact. It might even have been his function. He didn't seem like a National Security Advisor to me. That would be a Condoleezza Rice type. A hard ass General doesn't fit the mold.
They sure snapped up the bait.

 

[illmatic99]

Wow. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/...tion=keypress&region=FixedLeft&pgtype=article

Moby knew:

 

[riverman]

Trump cannot hold his own in a chess match with the Russian intelligence service....talk about out of his depth...all he really has is a red hat with a slogan

 

[MarAzul]

Trump cannot hold his own in a chess match with the Russian intelligence service....talk about out of his depth...all he really has is a red hat with a slogan

Is that an in-depth analysis? Or maybe Jack Daniels aided critique?

 

[riverman]

Is that an in-depth analysis? Or maybe Jack Daniels aided critique?

Little of both but leaning more towards the Shiraz ending with Christian Brothers Brandy on the rocks.....in depth might be a stretch...I like to watch the meltdown from the comforts of sanity

 

[riverman]

Is that an in-depth analysis? Or maybe Jack Daniels aided critique?

I'm honestly amazed you like the guy....really am...but hey..I respect your right to view him as you see fit

 

[MarAzul]

I'm honestly amazed you like the guy....really am...but hey..I respect your right to view him as you see fit

Not hard to figure at all.
Obama came with a whole list of shit he was going to do to me. He started down the list, electric bills went up to beat hell, I lost my healthcare package which took me 35 years to earn... aw fuck it, too painful to list it all. Trump doesn't have that sort of plan, like to fundamentally fuck up my world.

 

[riverman]

Not hard to figure at all.
Obama came with a whole list of shit he was going to do to me. He started down the list, electric bills went up to beat hell, I lost my healthcare package which took me 35 years to earn... aw fuck it, too painful to list it all. Trump doesn't have that sort of plan, like to fundamentally fuck up my world.

but Marz...Obama didn't run for prez....it's over....and Trumps plan looks to me like it's going to fuck up the entire world...not just yours..where's the fix?

 

[barfo]

Not hard to figure at all.
Obama came with a whole list of shit he was going to do to me. He started down the list, electric bills went up to beat hell,

• Residential Electricity in Bandon
  • The average residential electricity rate in Bandon is 7.66¢/kWh.[1]
  • This average (residential) electricity rate in Bandon is 21.84% less than the Oregon average rate of 9.8¢/kWh.[2]
  • The average (residential) electricity rate in Bandon is 35.52% less than the national average rate of 11.88¢/kWh. Residential rates in the U.S. range from 8.37¢/kWh to 37.34¢/kWh.[2]

So, what are you complaining about exactly?

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Trumps plan looks to me like it's going to fuck up the entire world

I don't see it. I only see the standard lefty bitching. Mostly without basis.

 

[riverman]

I don't see it. I only see the standard lefty bitching. Mostly without basis.

carry on....there's plenty of basis...just choices..plenty of moderates and conservatives are questioning him...it's not a partisan game anymore

 

[MarAzul]

• Residential Electricity in Bandon
  • The average residential electricity rate in Bandon is 7.66¢/kWh.[1]
  • This average (residential) electricity rate in Bandon is 21.84% less than the Oregon average rate of 9.8¢/kWh.[2]
  • The average (residential) electricity rate in Bandon is 35.52% less than the national average rate of 11.88¢/kWh. Residential rates in the U.S. range from 8.37¢/kWh to 37.34¢/kWh.[2]

So, what are you complaining about exactly?

barfo

Interesting, a little.
What did PPL rates do in rural Oregon, other than add a delivery charge for being on the grid.
Even without getting his carbon tax passed.

 

[MarAzul]

Well you just did like everyone does. List nothing but vent fear because others are venting fear.

 

[barfo]

Interesting, a little.
What did PPL rates do in rural Oregon, other than add a delivery charge for being on the grid.

I don't understand the question. I'm hoping it doesn't translate to "why isn't rural electricity entirely subsidized by taxpayers instead of just mostly"?

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

carry on....there's plenty of basis...just choices..plenty of moderates and conservatives are questioning him...it's not a partisan game anymore

I don't understand the question.

You provided the rates for Bandon City power. Not so interesting if you are on the PPL grid.
Perhaps you forgot his promise.
"Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket"
https://www.uschamber.com/above-the...ectricity-rates-will-skyrocket-because-carbon

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You're Fired!

Ha! I wonder how many times we will see that action while Trump is boss?

Really! A lot? I guess you speculate. How many did Obama fire? Petraeus is the only one I remember.
Should have done Holder for selling arms to the cartels, Clinton for using an insecure server, Clinton for botching Benghazi, Somebody at the IRS for... Well you get the picture

I think it will be interesting to see how many at the CIA get fired for leeking they Flynn story. Not only is it breaking the law to record the conversation, they were so hot to burn Flynn, they gave up the
in they had to listen in on the Russians.

There is a nest a rats yet to be exposed.

I think that is a fact. It might even have been his function. He didn't seem like a National Security Advisor to me. That would be a Condoleezza Rice type. A hard ass General doesn't fit the mold.
They sure snapped up the bait.

Is that an in-depth analysis? Or maybe Jack Daniels aided critique?

Not hard to figure at all.
Obama came with a whole list of shit he was going to do to me. He started down the list, electric bills went up to beat hell, I lost my healthcare package which took me 35 years to earn... aw fuck it, too painful to list it all. Trump doesn't have that sort of plan, like to fundamentally fuck up my world.

I don't see it. I only see the standard lefty bitching. Mostly without basis.

Well you just did like everyone does. List nothing but vent fear because others are venting fear.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[MarAzul]

Ha! Well, spit it out! What the fuck is the panic?

 

[barfo]

You provided the rates for Bandon City power. Not so interesting if you are on the PPL grid.
Perhaps you forgot his promise.
"Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket"

Ok, well, the graph I included above shows that he failed to keep that promise. Electric rates increased during the Obama years at about the same rate they increased before Obama.

Maybe he raised your electric costs at the same time he took away all your guns?

Can't quickly find any info on PP&L increases, but feel free to post your actual current (no pun intended) rate. I'll bet it is still well below the national average?

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Ok, well, the graph I included above shows that he failed to keep that promise. Electric rates increased during the Obama years at about the same rate they increased before Obama.

Can't quickly find any info on PP&L increases, but feel free to post your actual current (no pun intended) rate. I'll bet it is still well below the national average?

barfo

When Marazul was a kid you could get 2 volts for a penny down at the mom and pop store.

 

[barfo]

When Marazul was a kid you could get 2 volts for a penny down at the mom and pop store.

And they were big volts, too. Not like these puny volts they have today. Why, in those days, 2 volts would last you a whole week, even if you gave your kid sister some.

barfo

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Flynn was told by someone higher than him to give the info to Putin, IMO.

This whole thing hasn't seemed right from the begginning. Donald Trumps reluctance to step on the toes of Vladimir. His decision to not take Romney as his SOS probably knowing that he feels that Russia is the greatest geo political threat to the US. The ties to Russia by Manafort, Tillerson and Flynn. They are pretty much catering to Vladimir.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that Donald himself was the one to tell Flynn to slip that word to Vladimir. It also wouldnt surprise me at all that Donald didn't accept any campaign donations by major donors because Vladimirs donations was enough. And he is Donald's major lobbyist. Which in effect would make him Vlads puppet.

I backed him. But this feels anything but right.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Could we end up seeing actual "death penalty" treason?

I got my popcorn ready!

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Flynn was told by someone higher than him to give the info to Putin, IMO.

This whole thing hasn't seemed right from the begginning. Donald Trumps reluctance to step on the toes of Vladimir. His decision to not take Romney as his SOS probably knowing that he feels that Russia is the greatest geo political threat to the US. The ties to Russia by Manafort, Tillerson and Flynn. They are pretty much catering to Vladimir.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that Donald himself was the one to tell Flynn to slip that word to Vladimir. It also wouldnt surprise me at all that Donald didn't accept any campaign donations by major donors because Vladimirs donations was enough. And he is Donald's major lobbyist. Which in effect would make him Vlads puppet.

I backed him. But this feels anything but right.

Btw...I think the aggression today by Russia could be a ploy to take the heat and pressure off this administration.

I mean the President hasn't said one word about it. Absolutely mind boggling. Why not??

 

[MARIS61]

More buffoonery.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tricks-nancy-pelosi-elijah-cummings/97924462/

 

[crandc]

If Flynn is a psycho - what kind of manager names a psycho to one of the most sensitive positions?

A very bad manager.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Would really like to hear @blue32 and @magnifier661 takes on this