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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jun 10 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 10 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Kings took that Lakers team to 7 games and needed a conspiracy to be eliminated. The Nets... were swept.</div>

yeah nice logic there...lol
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And what's better logic? Assuming that the team that couldn't even steal a single game should be crowned the champs in hindsight?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 10 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jun 10 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 10 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Kings took that Lakers team to 7 games and needed a conspiracy to be eliminated. The Nets... were swept.</div>

yeah nice logic there...lol
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And what's better logic? Assuming that the team that couldn't even steal a single game should be crowned the champs in hindsight?
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you and everyone who reads your post know you're wrong so i'm not even getting in an argument...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jun 10 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 10 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ Jun 10 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 10 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Kings took that Lakers team to 7 games and needed a conspiracy to be eliminated. The Nets... were swept.</div>

yeah nice logic there...lol
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And what's better logic? Assuming that the team that couldn't even steal a single game should be crowned the champs in hindsight?
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you and everyone who reads your post know you're wrong so i'm not even getting in an argument...
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There's no point anyways. That may be the single-greatest argument I have ever read.
 
You're a smart guy Chutney. You know match-ups play as big a role as any in a series. Or did you sleep through the Mavs-Warriors series last year?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (XSV @ Jun 10 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're a smart guy Chutney. You know match-ups play as big a role as any in a series. Or did you sleep through the Mavs-Warriors series last year?</div>
Come on dude, I never said it was an inevitability. These are hypothetical situations, which I hate getting into. All I said was its stupid to summarily dismiss a team that would've/could've beat an opponent that yours couldn't even beat once.
 
Fair enough. Man that would have been an amazing series. Everybody who watched that game 6 knew that the league handed the Lakers a birth in the final. Pity.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 10 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 10 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That Kings team is probably the greatest never to win a championship.</div>

1999-2000 Portland team was better than 2001-2002 Kings team
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Kings team had way more depth than that Blazers team. This Kings team 7 team averaging double figures, while Blazers had 5. this Kings team also had all their best players in the prime of there career, while this Portland team was relying on players like pippen(34), Sabonis(35) and Detlef Schrempf(37)


Trailblazers
offensive rating- 107.9
Defensive rating- 100.8

Kings
offensive rating 109
defensive rating 101.1
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (XSV @ Jun 10 2008, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fair enough. Man that would have been an amazing series. Everybody who watched that game 6 knew that the league handed the Lakers a birth in the final. Pity.</div>

Fine with me, take Wade's title while you're at it too.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 10 2008, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>MJ's last title was rigged too!</div>

Clearly you've stumbled across something.
 
Oh no! What if all the titles are rigged!!!
 
I'm totally down for going through every championship and giving it to the losing team. Its about time to right all these wrongs.
 
It was pretty apparent something was wrong

last year when the Donaghy thing first broke and the NBA trumpeted its zero-tolerance policy for gambling and then promptly reversed itself and changed the policy after it came out everyone had been ignoring it.

Whether the zero-tolerance gambline thing was a good idea or not, it seemed pretty crazy to me, and unlike Stern, to roll over for a refs like that.

I mean, if you look at the refs:
1. They’re getting paid very handsomely to do something lots of people volunteer to do.
2. They thumbed their nose at the rules when the primary function of their job is to take them seriously.

Honestly I see no reason they shouldn’t have fired the whole lot of them, even if it was 75% of the league. They’re replaceable, but the league’s integrity is not.
 
Well, the Pistons' title seemed pretty legit.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 11 2008, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm totally down for going through every championship and giving it to the losing team. Its about time to right all these wrongs.</div>

YES!!

TWO Banners!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 10 2008, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (XSV @ Jun 10 2008, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fair enough. Man that would have been an amazing series. Everybody who watched that game 6 knew that the league handed the Lakers a birth in the final. Pity.</div>

Fine with me, take Wade's title while you're at it too.
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Reminding myself of times back at another site, I've come to the conclusion that Net fans would definetly settle for taking Wade's ring away.
 
This revelation should come as shocking news to the blind and people born after 2002.

"This is what sets the NBA apart from every other team sport in North America: Everyone who loves pro basketball assumes it's a little fixed. We all think the annual draft lottery is probably rigged, we all accept that the league aggressively wants big market teams to advance deep into the playoffs, and we all concede that certain marquee players are going to get preferential treatment for no valid reason. The outcomes of games aren't predetermined or scripted, but there are definitely dark forces who play with our reality. There are faceless puppet masters who pull strings and manipulate the purity of justice. It's not necessarily a full-on conspiracy, but it's certainly not fair. And that's why the NBA remains the only game that matters: Pro basketball is exactly like life." - Chuck Klosterman

(note: this was written circa 2002/03 - four years before this Donaghy scandal broke)

What's sad is that everybody who watched this atrocity go down knew something was wrong, something wasn't right, that we were all being lied to and manipulated....but we were all just powerless to stop it. And I'm not sure if I'm talking about the NBA or life right now.
 
Phil Jackson totally ripped into this thread.

"Was that game 6 after the 5th game that we had stolen from us?"

Shaq got one free throw in that game IIRC. I think the Lakers got shafted in that game.

More thoughts about the finals from other fans:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I plotted the data you posted in the other thread, 96 total games I believe. A +28 differential has only happened 3 times out of 96 Finals games in the last 17 years. There isn't anything between +23 (Bulls/Phoenix if I recall correctly) and the +28 and +30 Lakers/Pistons, Heat/Mavs games. Which is to say those games are way at the right hand tail of the distribution, several standard deviations removed from the average, and, totally suspicious. The average Finals differential since 91' is about +8, with a standard deviation of about +8. To get to +28 or +30 takes some serious work.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Lakers vs. Detriot: 11 free throws to 41 free throws. Game 4. 4th lowest in NBA history. (+30)
Lakers vs. Boston: 10 free throws to 38 free throws. Game 2. 3rd lowest in NBA history. (+28)

That's different than in 91' when the Bulls only got 8 free throws, or 93' when the Bulls only got 9 free throws. The discrepancy wasn't anywhere near +20.</div>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 10 2008, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jun 10 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Kings took that Lakers team to 7 games and needed a conspiracy to be eliminated. The Nets... were swept.</div>

The transitive property doesn't apply

The Kings wouldn't have stopped the Nets from getting transition baskets and KVH would have been a matchup problem for the Kings
</div>O RLY?
 
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