Breaking News.... Phil Jackson [merged]

[maxiep]

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Yeah , as soon as the head coach gets off the plane, they are carried to a car. As the rest of the team and coaching staff head to their hotel for the night, Phil is taken to the Rose Garden and carried to his seat on the sidelines where he'll remain until the team is ready to head back to L.A. after the game. This is standard practice throughout the NBA.

He seemed to be walking fine last night. However, if he can't walk, all of those places have wheelchairs. There is also this invention called crutches.

 

[noknobs]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

That article you are referring to is poorly written and way off base. I am a podiatrist and the plantar fascia would not cause your lower leg to swell one bit. The plantar fascia is a continuation of your achilles tendon as it wraps around your heel bone (calcaneus) and continues onto the bottom of your foot where the fascia fans outs towards your forefoot. It is most tender and painful on the medial aspect of your heel since that is where the fascia originates. Every step you take puts strain and pressure at the insertion site of the fascia leading to inflammation and pain. Typically plantar fasciitis is pain worse in the morning, with the 1st step and gradually gets better the more you walk (it loosens up and stetches out). If you sit for a while or are inactive then get up you feel the pain again as the fascia starts to contract. ABM the frozen water bottle trick works as it ices the area directly reducing inflammation while also massaging the fascia. Systemic NSAID's have some benefit as well. Orthotics work because the change the architecture of your foot and the pull of the tendons thus giving you a more supportive arch. In severe cases injection of a steroid into the area helps drastically reduce inflammation but in the end the reason why it becomes so painful is because the fascia is too tight therefore 3x daily stretching exercises need to be performed to solve the problem (all other treatments just alleviate the symptoms not treat the problem).

So why am I saying all this? Honestly I am sure P. Jackson is in pain (bigger guys carry more weight and it is more debilitating to them) but the whole notion that he can not take a plane because his leg swells because of the plantar fascia is a cop out. In reality, if he does not take that flight he wouldn't have to leave LA for a couple of weeks (because of their last games being at home and the 1st 2 games of the playoffs at home). He just wants a little more time to charge his battery and rest before the grind of the playoffs is all which is fine. I just think come up with a better excuse like the flu vs something that is even medically possible is what I'm saying.

Good stuff. I was listening to the radio down here and they brought up his two hip replacements and the fact there could be some blood circulation problems in his foot/leg, which would cause the swelling. I aint no doctor so I don't know how legit that is either.

 

[andalusian]

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Does he need that foot to not be swollen to coach? It's one thing if he's a player, but all he does is sit on that big throne and roll his eyes.

You are selling him short, mister. Those snide remarks he makes at the press conferences do not just grow on trees you know. He needs to contemplate, phrase and rephrase them in his mind - playing them endlessly while trying different emphasis points and damning silences.

That and he is made of sugar. The rain just makes him melt.

 

[Blazer4life]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

Repped. I beg of you, please send this post to the Oregonian.

LOL. Sure why not. I don't think they will do anything with it though. It's one of those things where you need to read between the line. I had a similar long posts once Martel fractured his 5th metatarsal and talked about the recovery time. I knew he was going to be out a long time, Jones fractures take a while to heal. Unfortunately he rushed back re-fractured the area thus killing his season. The sad part is if he waited another couple of weeks before he started running, took another week or two to get into game shape he would've been available after the allstar break. Just goes to show how fine a line is between playing too soon and making sure you are completely recovered. I just wish people would keep this in mind when they were talking about Oden and why he was slow to heal. Did he want to play or was he soft etc.....Obviously the knee is not my area of expertise but the healing principles are the same and rushing players back to fast leads to catastrophic outcomes (Martel case in point).

 

[ABM]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

LOL. Sure why not. I don't think they will do anything with it though. It's one of those things where you need to read between the line. I had a similar long posts once Martel fractured his 5th metatarsal and talked about the recovery time. I knew he was going to be out a long time, Jones fractures take a while to heal. Unfortunately he rushed back re-fractured the area thus killing his season. The sad part is if he waited another couple of weeks before he started running, took another week or two to get into game shape he would've been available after the allstar break. Just goes to show how fine a line is between playing too soon and making sure you are completely recovered. I just wish people would keep this in mind when they were talking about Oden and why he was slow to heal. Did he want to play or was he soft etc.....Obviously the knee is not my area of expertise but the healing principles are the same and rushing players back to fast leads to catastrophic outcomes (Martel case in point).

I had posted this article yesterday in a different thread. If you wouldn't mind, could you read through it and give me your thoughts? It's the article on Walton's and Gross' injuries...and the aftermath. You'll need to flip through the pages, then use the zoom tool to actualy be able to read the text. Thanks! ABM.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19780821&mode=reader_vault

 

[Blazer4life]

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Good stuff. I was listening to the radio down here and they brought up his two hip replacements and the fact there could be some blood circulation problems in his foot/leg, which would cause the swelling. I aint no doctor so I don't know how legit that is either.

OK, now this type of stuff is a bit more legit. Traveling with a bad hip in general would hurt and is easier to sit out and recoup a bit. Circulation problems either PVD or venous insufficiency (peripheral vascular disease ) can be problematic. PVD can be extremely painful depending on how severe it is. Mostly we see this in smokers, diabetics etc (people of poor health). With Venous insufficiency blood tends to pool in your lower extremities because your veins can't deliver the blood back to your heart fast enough. Therefore you get dependent edema which such symptoms are exacerbated by flying. Treatments for this are medications such as diuretics and wearing things like compression stockings when flying. Why they couldn't just say that is beyond me (unless its not legit). Honestly, I think he just wants a day off.

BTW, if people don't want to hear any of this just let me know. I just thought people might be interested in knowing a bit more about stuff like this (kinda like a quick behind the Blazers locker room report only as it pertains to injuries/recovery time or whether or not it is BS). Of course I am not privy to the information about any players/coaches health but I feel as if I can provide insight of some sort based off the information provided through the media and relate that to everyone if they so wish.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

BTW, if people don't want to hear any of this just let me know. I just thought people might be interested in knowing a bit more about stuff like this (kinda like a quick behind the Blazers locker room report only as it pertains to injuries/recovery time or whether or not it is BS). Of course I am not privy to the information about any players/coaches health but I feel as if I can provide insight of some sort based off the information provided through the media and relate that to everyone if they so wish.

I think it's very interesting. I hope you provide some commentary/analysis like this whenever a medical issue comes up. It's nice to have someone who at least knows the medical science, even if you haven't examined the people themselves.

 

[Blazer4life]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

I think it's very interesting. I hope you provide some commentary/analysis like this whenever a medical issue comes up. It's nice to have someone who at least knows the medical science, even if you haven't examined the people themselves.

Thanks. Anything you guys are curious about if I don't comment just ask and I will when I get a chance. LOL. Maybe I should become a moderator of the forum (for medical topics only).

 

[Blazer4life]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

I had posted this article yesterday in a different thread. If you wouldn't mind, could you read through it and give me your thoughts? It's the article on Walton's and Gross' injuries...and the aftermath. You'll need to flip through the pages, then use the zoom tool to actualy be able to read the text. Thanks! ABM.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19780821&mode=reader_vault

Honestly, after reading that all I can think about is medical malpractice on the Blazers doctors part. Of course this was years ago, I only have info based off of what I read but repeat injections to play through the pain (medical malpractice IMO). I wouldn't of been surprised either if they mixed steroids into those anesthetics in order to reduce the inflammation and pain. Problem is, depending on where and what they were injecting (we will never know for sure) steroids will weaken tendons and ligaments making them prone to rupture and bone stock will be weakened making them prone to fracture. The talonavicular fracture Walton suffered is one of the worst injuries to have in the foot as those bones make up part of your medial column of the foot. Fracturing those bones, can lead to a unilateral flat foot (a depressed arch). If I was Walton or Gross, I would of wanted to be traded as well.

 

[Toko]

Can you blame him? why come to a shithole like portland if he can help it? Lakeshow will whoop jailers either way

 

[maxiep]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

I had posted this article yesterday in a different thread. If you wouldn't mind, could you read through it and give me your thoughts? It's the article on Walton's and Gross' injuries...and the aftermath. You'll need to flip through the pages, then use the zoom tool to actualy be able to read the text. Thanks! ABM.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19780821&mode=reader_vault

That article brought up some very bad memories. That was a dynasty that just crumbled.

 

[maxiep]

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Thanks. Anything you guys are curious about if I don't comment just ask and I will when I get a chance. LOL. Maybe I should become a moderator of the forum (for medical topics only).

How much do you think Lamar Odom' yeast infection will hold him back tonight?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Can you blame him? why come to a shithole like portland if he can help it? Lakeshow will whoop jailers either way

It's hilarious how you keep trolling away trying to get a rise out of the Blazer fans with your "witty" comments, but for the most part everyone just keeps ignoring you. Try this site: ttp://www.oregonlive.com/forums/blazers/

I think you will find it more your speed. It is Spring break for some of the other junior high kids though, but most will be back next week.

 

[ABM]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

That article brought up some very bad memories. That was a dynasty that just crumbled.

...right under their collective feet.

 

[Ed O]

Re: Phil Jackson's Injury is Bogus

I think it's very interesting. I hope you provide some commentary/analysis like this whenever a medical issue comes up. It's nice to have someone who at least knows the medical science, even if you haven't examined the people themselves.

+1

Thanks for the insight!

Ed O.

 

[OddEnormous]

why come to a shithole like portland if he can help it?

Why stay in one like Los Angeles?

 

[Toko]

Why stay in one like Los Angeles?

Yu med?