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OSUBlazerfan said:
Thank YOU CHIP BROWN

ChipBrownOB There's a Kansas City TV report saying Texas and A&M to the Big Ten. That would be news to those schools.
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A very wealthy alum, that I work for says that there is still a chance that Texas will go to the SEC, and pull am and OK with it. He doubts it though
 
Draco said:
So one thing I've been thinking about is how they are going to schedule non-division games. It sounds like there will be two 8 team divisions. If you play every team in your dvision you would have 7 divisional games a year. There might be a conference championship game. Can you also have three games against the other division? That ends up being a lot of games to play each season, 10 conference games or 11 if you make the championship game. But if you only have two out of division games your talking about playing a team once every 4 years that is in your conference? So we would host a conference team only once every eight years? Hardly seems like a conference if a team only comes into town once a decade.

One idea I had was basically scheduling the conference as if there were 4 divisions:
NW (UW, WSU, O, OS)
Cali (Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA)
Texas (UT, TT, A&M, Colorado)
Others(AZ, ASU, Okla, OK ST)​
You would play the three teams in your division every year. You would play half the other 12 teams every year which would be 6 more games. So every year you have 9 conference games, and you would not go longer than one season without playing a conference opponent. Sure we would only be able to play USC every other year, but we would get to play Texas every other year instead of possibly only once every 4 years.
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Ideally, the conference would be allowed to schedule 13 games per season.

Each team plays their own division each year, and 4 teams from the other division. Then do a home and home with each non divisional school. That way you would play each team every 2 years, and get each team at home every 4. Then have 2 weeks of little sisters of the poor, or every other conference to prep your self with before conference play
 
Mediocre Man said:
Brown has been right about everything so far. He is literally the one that broke this whole thing like 4 weeks ago. That's when I first heard about it from someone here that knows him
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He just made himself a lot of money and fame over the last couple of weeks
 
I know I'm late to the game here, but who is Chip Brown and how's he connected to all of this? I agree that he's been "on" for almost all of this.

That KC TV report is getting airtime up here in SEA, also. UT/TA&M petitioning the Big 10, not waiting for an invite, and Oklahoma (no mention of OSU) asking the SEC to come in? Doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
 
BrianFromWA said:
I know I'm late to the game here, but who is Chip Brown and how's he connected to all of this? I agree that he's been "on" for almost all of this.

That KC TV report is getting airtime up here in SEA, also. UT/TA&M petitioning the Big 10, not waiting for an invite, and Oklahoma (no mention of OSU) asking the SEC to come in? Doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
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He works for orangebloods.com (rivals.com) and hosts a drivetime radio show in Austin (ESPN Affiliate)
 
Many people have refuted the KC report

ChipBrownOB There's a Kansas City TV report saying Texas and A&M to the Big Ten. That would be news to those schools.
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Andy_Staples Can we just agree to take with a grain of salt anything from a Kansas City media outlet not named the Star?
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BrianFromWA said:
I know I'm late to the game here, but who is Chip Brown and how's he connected to all of this? I agree that he's been "on" for almost all of this.

That KC TV report is getting airtime up here in SEA, also. UT/TA&M petitioning the Big 10, not waiting for an invite, and Oklahoma (no mention of OSU) asking the SEC to come in? Doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
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Keep in mind, that this move really hurts the Kansas schools and possibly Mssouri. It doesn't surprise me that someone from that region would be spreading this around.

Then again, as I have said, it wouldn't surprise me to see Texas and a&m go somewhere else. I can't see a situation that would have Oklahoma and Texas splitting up though.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Ideally, the conference would be allowed to schedule 13 games per season.

Each team plays their own division each year, and 4 teams from the other division. Then do a home and home with each non divisional school. That way you would play each team every 2 years, and get each team at home every 4. Then have 2 weeks of little sisters of the poor, or every other conference to prep your self with before conference play
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I thought there was some limit on NCAA football teams only being able to play some total number of games or something like that, like 14 or something.

If you had 13 conference game, championship game, bowl game, non-conference games, I mean heck that could be 18 games which is more than an NFL season.
 
It brings up kind of a good point, though...
I think it's fair to say that the Big XII is done as a conference. The teams left are trying to get the best deal, and UT and UO can go basically anywhere they want to.
The Pac-10 is fine with expanding to either 12 or 16 teams. Obviously 16 (with CU, UT and UO being among them) is the big win. But they're fine with just CU and (probably) Utah. A source at the Pac-10 mtgs said today on the radio that Utah would accept a bid within 5 minutes of the Pac-10 calling them up. But if you're the Pac-10, and you see UT and UO leave for somewhere else, isn't Kansas a better fit alongside CU than Utah would be? Utah's been better at football, but KU's hasn't been horrible, AND you get the basketball stuff and the ability to play games at the big new stadium in Kansas City (which I understad is in MO). What are the pros/cons for inviting KU with CU rather than Utah with CU?
 
BrianFromWA said:
It brings up kind of a good point, though...
I think it's fair to say that the Big XII is done as a conference. The teams left are trying to get the best deal, and UT and UO can go basically anywhere they want to.
The Pac-10 is fine with expanding to either 12 or 16 teams. Obviously 16 (with CU, UT and UO being among them) is the big win. But they're fine with just CU and (probably) Utah. A source at the Pac-10 mtgs said today on the radio that Utah would accept a bid within 5 minutes of the Pac-10 calling them up. But if you're the Pac-10, and you see UT and UO leave for somewhere else, isn't Kansas a better fit alongside CU than Utah would be? Utah's been better at football, but KU's hasn't been horrible, AND you get the basketball stuff and the ability to play games at the big new stadium in Kansas City (which I understad is in MO). What are the pros/cons for inviting KU with CU rather than Utah with CU?
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I think Kansas would HAVE to come as a package deal with KSU
 
Really? If you say to them, "Kansas can join the Pac-12", they're going to say "We're sticking with our buddies. Bring on the Mountain West!"?
 
BrianFromWA said:
It brings up kind of a good point, though...
I think it's fair to say that the Big XII is done as a conference. The teams left are trying to get the best deal, and UT and UO can go basically anywhere they want to.
The Pac-10 is fine with expanding to either 12 or 16 teams. Obviously 16 (with CU, UT and UO being among them) is the big win.
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I would guess some of these reports are being sent out during negotiations; UT is probably trying to get a larger share of TV revenue from the Pac10 like they had with the Big12 while the Pac10 schools want to keep the even split. So UT could be showing they have other options and leverage in negotiations and don't need the pac10.
 
Dammit

In a teleconference Thursday, Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott said that his conference won’t necessarily pluck any other Big 12 schools besides Colorado, which announced this afternoon that it was leaving.

“I’d say that (having an 11-team conference) is a possibility,” Scott said.

He also said that no assurances and that no invitations have been issued to any other Big 12 schools, including Texas and Texas A&M, whose athletic directors met on Thursday in Austin to discuss their future.

“There are several different scenarios,” Scot siad. “There is no defined timetable” for further Pac-10 expansion.
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http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont...horns/entries/2010/06/10/pac10_commish_m.html
 
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/breakingnews/Colorado-joins-PAC-10-Conference.html

FUCK YOU MACK BROWN....


TEXAS, TEXAS A&M CAN'T FIND COMMON GROUND

Texas and Texas A&M officials met Thursday in Austin to discuss whether to bolt to the Pac-10.

However, the meeting ended with the teams in limbo.

According to a source, Texas President Bill Powers wants to go to the Pac-10, but Longhorns coach Mack Brown wants to stay in the Big 12. Texas A&M is looking at a possible move to the SEC.

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds has said that he wants to keep the Big 12 together.

Colorado accepted an invitation to the Pac-10 earlier in the day.
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Well, the big 12 isn't staying together. Colorado's gone, and Nebraska's not far behind. So Dodds better come up with another plan. I think getting an extra 10M a year from the Pac-16 would override Mack Brown, but I don't know if the guy's Bear Bryant Incarnate down there or not. If A&M thinks life in the SEC is better, they're welcome to it.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Well, the big 12 isn't staying together. Colorado's gone, and Nebraska's not far behind. So Dodds better come up with another plan. I think getting an extra 10M a year from the Pac-16 would override Mack Brown, but I don't know if the guy's Bear Bryant Incarnate down there or not. If A&M thinks life in the SEC is better, they're welcome to it.
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Yeah I heard that unless something crazy happens, like Notre Dame stepping in for Nebraska, the Big 12 should dissolve. The SEC is so loaded, the Pac-16 would still be weaker right? Not sure.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Well, the big 12 isn't staying together. Colorado's gone, and Nebraska's not far behind. So Dodds better come up with another plan. I think getting an extra 10M a year from the Pac-16 would override Mack Brown, but I don't know if the guy's Bear Bryant Incarnate down there or not. If A&M thinks life in the SEC is better, they're welcome to it.
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They have lost 2 schools. They can be replaced pretty easily with TCU and someone else.

Again, one woul dhope that the PAC 10 didn't take the worst Big 12 school without being all but assured it could get some real schools
 
Mediocre Man said:
They have lost 2 schools. They can be replaced pretty easily with TCU and someone else.

Again, one woul dhope that the PAC 10 didn't take the worst Big 12 school without being all but assured it could get some real schools
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Come on, Iowa State is worse ;)
 
This is a lot like the trade deadline. All sorts of rumors, and denials, and anxious fans.

And then blammo...nothing worth crap happens. :*)
 
Well to be fair something has happened.... colorado joined, and i will bet you anything that it wont remain the Pac-11, IT will at least increase by one more
 
GOOD NEWS

With Colorado in the fold, the Pac-10 is now 11 teams.

It’s been widely reported—and speculated—that five more Big 12 teams will follow. Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott suggested today the league could stop at 11, but that’s not going to happen.

Other wild rumors have Texas and Texas A&M petitioning the Big Ten, and the SEC wanting to get active, and ...

It’s going to be the Pac-16, with those Big 12 members moving West. Sources, both in Big 12 country and on the West coast, are just waiting for the announcements. Most don’t know the time frame. Some do.

Expect the Pac-16 to come together very soon. By the weekend, most likely.

“You can take it to the bank,” one very good source said.

And the chances that something falls through? That Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State somehow don’t join the Pac-10?

“Pretty close to zero.”
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http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/i...clutter-pac-16-announcement-coming-very-soon/
 
The general idea of getting some big-time schools to join the conference is pretty cool. But the more I think about it, the less interesting it becomes to me.

I really like the fact that every team in the Pac-10 plays every other team, every year. There is no ambiguity about conference strength-of-schedule, and the rivalries develop very well.

With two divisions, each team plays 7 division games. What do they do for their other 4-5 games? They can't play every team in the other division, so you either don't play any of them (and have 4-5 non-conference games, which is lame), or you play different teams by year. This then throws a wrench into the conference record standings.

Am I the only one with hesitation about this move?
 
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