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In a normal game, I don't see Roberts getting off the bench
 
BonesJones said:
In a normal game, I don't see Roberts getting off the bench
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A player like Roberts/his age wasn't brought in only to be here in blowout game(s) or solely as injury insurance, Roberts can b a huge benefit to Dame & CJ on the regular to save their bodies for the playoffs & prevent injury/fatigue; this is why I believe NO brought him in.

ps also NO brought him in bc he'll make better decisions @ pg vs. CJ (& obviously play w/ CJ & let CJ be mostly sg & have to make fewer decisions/allowing him to save energies & focus almost solely on scoring).
 
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He's solid insurance at his position..one thing even though it was garbage time last night, he looked composed...great looking shot..protected the ball, made a smooth reverse layup..when's the last time our 3rd string pt guard put up 7 in 4 minutes with 25 minutes of practice time, jet lagged at that? Good acquisition by Neil
 
0-Our! said:
A player like Roberts/his age wasn't brought in only to be here in blowout game(s) or solely as injury insurance, Roberts can b a huge benefit to Dame & CJ on the regular to save their bodies for the playoffs & prevent injury/fatigue; this is why I believe NO brought him in.

ps also NO brought him in bc he'll make better decisions @ pg vs. CJ (& obviously play w/ CJ & let CJ be mostly sg & have to make fewer decisions/allowing him to save energies & focus almost solely on scoring).
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He was brought in to get us a 2nd round pick and as insurance.
 
The point of Roberts game is, if he plays 5 minutes or 25 minutes per game, he is going to make a positive impact, off of the bench.

We are very fortunate to have Roberts. Not only did this trade land us a 2nd round pick; it also upgraded our BUPG position. Something I have been very concerned about. Now let’s see if he is worth re-signing.
 
BonesJones said:
He was brought in to get us a 2nd round pick and as insurance.
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^ true but what I said is also true. Hasn't it been known for a while now that we badly needed a better B/U pg? If it wasn't Roberts, I'm almost certain it would've been another pg from someone else; Roberts is the perfect fit for us IMO. Yes, MIA wanted to make the move to get them under the cap & we were rewarded handsomely for helping out yet another team.:wink:
 
0-Our! said:
^ true but what I said is also true. Hasn't it been known for a while now that we badly needed a better B/U pg? If it wasn't Roberts, I'm almost certain it would've been another pg from someone else; Roberts is the perfect fit for us IMO. Yes, MIA wanted to make the move to get them under the cap & we were rewarded handsomely for helping out yet another team.:wink:
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So you think Roberts is a better backup PG than CJ? And he's not a perfect fit because he's a worse defender than Dame or CJ
 
It's kinda crazy, all of our backcourt players can create for themselves:
Hendo
Lillard
CJ
Roberts
Crabbe, to a lesser extent (runs thru screens a lot, power dribbles then shoots, developing a little floater) .
 
Finding minutes for Roberts will not be a problem. But it probably will vary from game to game depending on what the coach needs on the floor.

Playing two scoring/ball handling guards more often will cause match-up problems for the other coaches, even if Roberts only averages the same minutes that Frazier did. Roberts can play with either Dame or CJ @ SG, and still make a positive impact of his own.

Having Roberts available may improve our guard defense.
Reason, Dame and CJ can play tighter defense and not worry about drawing fouls. Maybe the reason they have been playing soft D is they both knew they had to play as many minutes as possible. Adding Robert’s minutes frees Dame and CJ to take more chances on D. I can see CJ turning into a bulldog defender with Robert’s minutes available on the bench.

How about playing Dame, CJ & Roberts all at the same time for short stretches? That short lineup could drive some coaches crazy. May not happen often, but… Some nights Stotts might go big with Henderson and & Crabbe playing more, other nights go small playing Roberts more. How do other coaches game plan for that?

My point is, Roberts extends the range Stotts now has to either fix match-up problems, or, create problems for the other teams.

NO has added another nice roll playing weapon to Stott’s arsenal, Roberts.
 
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I have a hard time imagining The Dread Pirate Roberts won't get more minutes than Frazier. First, unlike Frazier, he's a competent NBA backup. Second, I don't think Olshey wastes his time with that trade just for a 2021 second rounder. Roberts wasn't brought here to be glued to the bench.
 
oldfisherman said:
Finding minutes for Roberts will not be a problem. But it probably will vary from game to game depending on what the coach needs on the floor.

Playing two scoring/ball handling guards more often will cause match-up problems for the other coaches, even if Roberts only averages the same minutes that Frazier did. Roberts can play with either Dame or CJ @ SG, and still make a positive impact of his own.

Having Roberts available may improve our guard defense.
Reason, Dame and CJ can play tighter defense and not worry about drawing fouls. Maybe the reason they have been playing soft D is they both knew they had to play as many minutes as possible. Adding Robert’s minutes frees Dame and CJ to take more chances on D. I can see CJ turning into a bulldog defender with Robert’s minutes available on the bench.

How about playing Dame, CJ & Roberts all at the same time for short stretches? That short lineup could drive some coaches crazy. May not happen often, but… Some nights Stotts might go big with Henderson and & Crabbe playing more, other nights go small playing Roberts more. How do other coaches game plan for that?

My point is, Roberts extends the range Stotts now has to either fix match-up problems, or, create problems for the other teams.

NO has added another nice roll playing weapon to Stott’s arsenal, Roberts.
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Plus, if Lillard or CJ goes down for awhile with an injury, it won't be so bad as when Frazier had to play a lot.
 
Hey, does anyone know if NO asked/traded for Roberts (vs. MIA asking us if we'd take him)? I know it's kind of a minor detail but to a player it can mean a lot:wink:

Roberts had 1 practice w/ them & then was told almost immediately that he's coming to us. IMO u don't work out a guy 1 practice if the plan was to trade him, that's the sort of thing u do if u had planned to keep him. So if u did what MIA did... it sounds like NO called MIA.
 
So we have Olshey admiration threads for not signing more expensive talent last summer, and all he got was...

a 2nd-round pick 6 drafts from now, and the 3rd-from the bottom pick in the 1st round, 3 drafts from now.

The gym towel boy could have done better than the "genius."
 
jlprk said:
So we have Olshey admiration threads for not signing more expensive talent last summer, and all he got was...

a 2nd-round pick 6 drafts from now, and the 3rd-from the bottom pick in the 1st round, 3 drafts from now.

The gym towel boy could have done better than the "genius."
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We're going to be having to sigh Crabbe and CJ soon to big deals, and Dame's big extension is going to kick in. The Blazers just so happen to be a team where so many guys are still on their rookie contracts.
 
Seriously. I know nothing about the CBA. But being tens of millions of dollars under the minimum payroll, I could have signed a couple of unwanted contracts like Olshey did, and gotten draft picks that are either higher, or at least, sooner.

The admiration threads assume that the pirate got a treasure load of golden picks, but after I finally dug up what he got for Brian Roberts, we see that this old barge of a Trade Deadline holds only barnacles.
 
jlprk said:
Seriously. I know nothing about the CBA. But being tens of millions of dollars under the minimum payroll, I could have signed a couple of unwanted contracts like Olshey did, and gotten draft picks that are either higher, or at least, sooner.

The admiration threads assume that the pirate got a treasure load of golden picks, but after I finally dug up what he got for Brian Roberts, we see that this old barge of a Trade Deadline holds only barnacles.
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That is not barnacles you are seeing, those are your hemorrhoids.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Culture Smulture. I want wins!
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I think having good culture leads to good chemistry....and that leads to more wins. If a player doesn't fit in with his teammates.... I am not sure he is destined to be on the team for long.

Look at the Bad boys of Detroit, they were not choir boys, but they brought in players who fit their particular culture. The guys who did not fit in, were moved. IMO, fitting in with the culture of a team is about being on the same page as your teammates. However I do think you make exception for players who are "difference makers". But those types of players need to be more than just good, they need to b great. Otherwise you may get short term success, but not long term success.
 
He might get more than just garbage time. CJ as backup point guard isn't always ideal. I can see Stotts playing Roberts and CJ together some for a few minutes in the second quarter to relieve CJ's ball handling duties.
 
0-Our! said:
Hey, does anyone know if NO asked/traded for Roberts (vs. MIA asking us if we'd take him)? I know it's kind of a minor detail but to a player it can mean a lot:wink:

Roberts had 1 practice w/ them & then was told almost immediately that he's coming to us. IMO u don't work out a guy 1 practice if the plan was to trade him, that's the sort of thing u do if u had planned to keep him. So if u did what MIA did... it sounds like NO called MIA.
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Miami: We're in the luxury tax, Neil, a repeater tax, in fact. We just traded away a guy and are now we're barely in, but still in.
NO: Give us a 2nd rounder and we'll take Roberts, and you'll be out.
Miami: Thanks for saving my ass with our owner, Neil. We'll talk some more later.
NO: No problem, but we still might make an offer to Whiteside.
Miami: Understandable.
NO and Miami at the same time: Can you believe what Morey's doing.....
 
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Wizard Mentor said:
Miami: We're in the luxury tax, Neil, a repeater tax, in fact. We just traded away a guy and are now we're barely in, but still in.
NO: Give us a 2nd rounder and we'll take Roberts, and you'll be out.
Miami: Thanks for saving my ass with our owner, Neil. We'll take some more later.
NO: No problem, but we still might make an offer to Whiteside.
Miami: Understandable.
NO and Miami at the same time: Can you believe what Morey's doing.....
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NO: why would they have ever hired a troll faced Virgin?
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Miami: We're in the luxury tax, Neil, a repeater tax, in fact. We just traded away a guy and are now we're barely in, but still in.
NO: Give us a 2nd rounder and we'll take Roberts, and you'll be out.
Miami: Thanks for saving my ass with our owner, Neil. We'll talk some more later.
NO: No problem, but we still might make an offer to Whiteside.
Miami: Understandable.
NO and Miami at the same time: Can you believe what Morey's doing.....
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& NO didn't even say "look" once!:tongue:
 
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