Brooklyn Nets Dame Trade Ideas and Rumors

[Natebishop3]

lol,,,so, after weeks talking about how shitty the return for Dame would be in a Miami trade, some of you think Ben Simmons as the centerpiece of a Dame trade is much better?

crazy

I’d rather take a massive flyer on Simmons instead of getting Jovic and Jaquez. I don’t think either of those two players are going to be anything special.

 

[wizenheimer]

I’d rather take a massive flyer on Simmons instead of getting Jovic and Jaquez. I don’t think either of those two players are going to be anything special.

that's fine....but they wouldn't be the centerpiece(s) of a Miami trade

Simmons is not a prize...he'd be the salary filler

won't matter, I don't think the Nets have any intention of trading for Dame

 

[Pinwheel1]

that's fine....but they wouldn't be the centerpiece(s) of a Miami trade

Simmons is not a prize...he'd be the salary filler

won't matter, I don't think the Nets have any intention of trading for Dame

So who is the centerpiece in a Miami trade? Herro?
I would much prefer a point forward who can pretty much defend 95% of the league.

 

[blazerkor]

So who is the centerpiece in a Miami trade? Herro?
I would much prefer a point forward who can pretty much defend 95% of the league.

Yeah, the idea that we could get Simmons, Whitehead, Clowney and three unprotected firsts from Brooklyn is better than the idea of getting Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, three unprotected firsts and salary filler from Miami.

The problem is when @KingSpeed starts talking about Simmons for Dame "straight up".

 

[wizenheimer]

So who is the centerpiece in a Miami trade? Herro?
I would much prefer a point forward who can pretty much defend 95% of the league.

a PF who has played 157 games in the last 4 seasons and missed 152
a PF who has clearly shown he's willing to sit out if he doesn't like his situation
a PF who obviously has some serious mental issues
a PF who has a bad back that may very well be a chronic problem

I don't have a problem rolling the dice on Simmons, but he's sure the fuck not the kind of primary value the Blazers should chase in a Dame trade. Like I said, he's salary filler

 

[Pinwheel1]

a PF who has played 157 games in the last 4 seasons and missed 152
a PF who has clearly shown he's willing to sit out if he doesn't like his situation
a PF who obviously has some serious mental issues
a PF who has a bad back that may very well be a chronic problem

I don't have a problem rolling the dice on Simmons, but he's sure the fuck not the kind of primary value the Blazers should chase in a Dame trade. Like I said, he's salary filler

You forgot a few:

• 3× NBA All-Star (2019–2021)
• All-NBA Third Team (2020)
• 2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2020, 2021)

Everything you said is true but if he is now healthy, Brooklyn is not treating him as a salary filler, nor should they.
Early on I was hoping Herro and a Miami pick could get us Simmons, (plus Jaquez, and Jovic) But he played well for the Nets last year until he got hurt and I doubt they are dumping him if they think he is healthy.

 

[wizenheimer]

You forgot a few:

• 3× NBA All-Star (2019–2021)
• All-NBA Third Team (2020)
• 2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2020, 2021)

Everything you said is true but if he is now healthy, Brooklyn is not treating him as a salary filler, nor should they.
Early on I was hoping Herro and a Miami pick could get us Simmons, (plus Jaquez, and Jovic) But he played well for the Nets last year until he got hurt and I doubt they are dumping him if they think he is healthy.

as I said in my initial post on this: I don't think the Nets have any intention at all of trading for Dame. They had completely mortgaged their future for Harden/Durant/Kyrie and Sean Marks was able to get 7 first round picks, a swap, and 3 second round picks for dumping that trio. I can't believe he'd want to give up a bunch of those picks for 33 years old Dame

 

[Whyachi]

We don’t need the picks. Just give us Ben straight up.

Cooper sweepstakes 2025

 

[Natebishop3]

a PF who has played 157 games in the last 4 seasons and missed 152
a PF who has clearly shown he's willing to sit out if he doesn't like his situation
a PF who obviously has some serious mental issues
a PF who has a bad back that may very well be a chronic problem

I don't have a problem rolling the dice on Simmons, but he's sure the fuck not the kind of primary value the Blazers should chase in a Dame trade. Like I said, he's salary filler

I'm starting to believe Dame doesn't have nearly the value that we hope he does.

 

[Pinwheel1]

as I said in my initial post on this: I don't think the Nets have any intention at all of trading for Dame. They had completely mortgaged their future for Harden/Durant/Kyrie and Sean Marks was able to get 7 first round picks, a swap, and 3 second round picks for dumping that trio. I can't believe he'd want to give up a bunch of those picks for 33 years old Dame

I agree with you on this. As I said I wouldn't give away the future either if I were the Nets, but I would consider just Simmons and one of their two first-round rookies since they are so deep at forward.

 

[Whyachi]

I'm starting to believe Dame doesn't have nearly the value that we hope he does.

yes, the new talking point fresh off the local radio shows. Nobody wants Lillard's oppressive contract/low basketball I.Q. Portland fans overvalue Dame.

 

[Natebishop3]

yes, the new talking point fresh off the local radio shows. Nobody wants Lillard's oppressive contract/low basketball I.Q. Portland fans overvalue Dame.

Actually I think his age is the main issue. Age and contract.

 

[KingSpeed]

lol....so, after weeks talking about how shitty the return for Dame would be in a Miami trade, some of you think Ben Simmons as the centerpiece of a Dame trade is much better?

Are you kidding me? Yes, MUCH better. Herro is useless to us. Ben Simmons has skills no one else on our team has. Like I said, I’d do Dame for Simmons straight up.

 

[Whyachi]

Are you kidding me? Yes, MUCH better. Herro is useless to us. Ben Simmons has skills no one else on our team has. Like I said, I’d do Dame for Simmons straight up.

47% FT shooting is definitely a unique skill no other Blazer has. Makes Chris Dudley look like a sniper from the charity stripe.

 

[robson]

Are you kidding me? Yes, MUCH better. Herro is useless to us. Ben Simmons has skills no one else on our team has. Like I said, I’d do Dame for Simmons straight up.

Nothing personal, but you said this about Josh Hart:
"He was turning down shots we needed him to take. Made him a liability on offense."

And yo want Simmons?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Nothing personal, but you said this about Josh Hart:
"He was turning down shots we needed him to take. Made him a liability on offense."

And yo want Simmons?

Simmons is 6'10 240 and an all-NBA defender who can guard pretty much everyone. So put me in the camp that thinks he fills a need we don't have.

 

[tlongII]

Simmons is a LOSER! No thanks.

 

[wizenheimer]

Are you kidding me? Yes, MUCH better. Herro is useless to us. Ben Simmons has skills no one else on our team has. Like I said, I’d do Dame for Simmons straight up.

I know what you said and it was stupid when you said it several hours ago. It hasn't got any smarter as the day has progressed

 

[KingSpeed]

47% FT shooting is definitely a unique skill no other Blazer has. Makes Chris Dudley look like a sniper from the charity stripe.

Shaq was a bad FT shooter too and he’s a better player than any on our roster.

 

[KingSpeed]

Nothing personal, but you said this about Josh Hart:
"He was turning down shots we needed him to take. Made him a liability on offense."

And yo want Simmons?

Yes because Simmons is way better than Hart in every other aspect of the game.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'm starting to believe Dame doesn't have nearly the value that we hope he does.

you may recall that for a couple of years now I've been saying that a Dame-trade was not going to yield the haul or godfather package many expected

some of the teams that would have been quite interested in him have already went all in on other players, so that curbs the market. That he's 6'2, 33 years old and a defensive minus curbs his market further. His extension has an impact on his market too, although I believe people are exaggerating how big that impact is

and finally, the actions and words of Dame's agent in the first week of the saga have seriously cratered Dame's value. Not only did it keep potential bidders out of the market, it encouraged Miami to play the lowball-rip-off card, and it's for certain that other front offices know what Miami has offered. There's not reason for them to beat that in any significant way

if Dame really wants to get traded into a good situation, he needs to first, fire his agent, then allow for other destinations than Miami, then show up to training camp in a good frame of mind, then perform at his highest level when the season starts

 

[Idog1976]

as I said in my initial post on this: I don't think the Nets have any intention at all of trading for Dame. They had completely mortgaged their future for Harden/Durant/Kyrie and Sean Marks was able to get 7 first round picks, a swap, and 3 second round picks for dumping that trio. I can't believe he'd want to give up a bunch of those picks for 33 years old Dame

What’s the superior centerpiece from Miami? You ducked that question unless its on the next page. Simmons is far better than anyone not named Butler or Bam on Miami. He’s an absolutely elite 1-5 switchable defender even when otherwise playing like trash and a great player on the break. Plus for me the centerpiece would be the FRP’s and the potential of Clowney and Whitehead and the upside of a engaged and healthy Simmons is pretty massive. Miami’s offer is dogshit by comparison.

 

[wizenheimer]

What’s the superior centerpiece from Miami? You ducked that question unless its on the next page. Simmons is far better than anyone not named Butler or Bam on Miami. He’s an absolutely elite 1-5 switchable defender even when otherwise playing like trash and a great player on the break. Plus for me the centerpiece would be the FRP’s and the potential of Clowney and Whitehead and the upside of a engaged and healthy Simmons is pretty massive. Miami’s offer is dogshit by comparison.

there's no centerpiece from Miami

and Simmons is a pretty pathetic centerpiece for Dame

 

[Ripcity4life77]

KingS -- you lost all credibility by saying that Simmons is better then Hart cause that is complete BS and that is a fact. -- LOL

 

[Strenuus]

Are you kidding me? Yes, MUCH better. Herro is useless to us. Ben Simmons has skills no one else on our team has. Like I said, I’d do Dame for Simmons straight up.

He would have the uncanny skill of letting the other team double our backcourt. What the hell are we waiting for?

 

[Whyachi]

Shaq was a bad FT shooter too and he’s a better player than any on our roster.

O'Neil is a top 10 player of all time.
Simmons is a top 10 scam artist of all time.

 

[e_blazer]

there's no centerpiece from Miami

and Simmons is a pretty pathetic centerpiece for Dame

Given his age, height and skill set, Simmons should be untouchable for a player with Dame’s age and defensive limitations. But, because of his bad back and mental limitations, he’s not.

 

[Whyachi]

I’ll watch if Dame goes to Brooklyn. I can take the subway there!

KingSpeed opinions on trading Simmons are biased. I just realized some affiliation with the Nets.

 

[KingSpeed]

KingS -- you lost all credibility by saying that Simmons is better then Hart cause that is complete BS and that is a fact. -- LOL

How many All-NBA teams has Hart made? How many All Star teams? Simmons is taller, better passer, better defender, better FG%, I mean it’s not close.

 

[Whyachi]

How many All-NBA teams has Harr made? How many All Star teams? Simmons is taller, better passer, better defender, better FG%, I mean it’s not close.

Nate could find 4 Matisse Thybulle's for 1 Ben Simmons contract. I think Jody would take Nate's idea.