Bucher says... Portland may get Iggy

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you guys really think we would have to take Brand's contract in order to get him?
 
HCP said:
you guys really think we would have to take Brand's contract in order to get him?
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Maybe not, if they're actually TRYING to move him. I'd love to keep Miller on the team if we can get Iggy by himself, but if we have to take Brand it would take Miller, Joel, AND Camby.
 
That would be such a huge amount to take in for a non superstar. I love Iggy, but that's too much. Brand is the shell of what he used to be.
 
HCP said:
That would be such a huge amount to take in for a non superstar. I love Iggy, but that's too much. Brand is the shell of what he used to be.
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I really don't care... and neither should Paul. It's really a matter of how much he wants to win. They might just want to move Iggy, but if we really want to make sure we get him, we might have to take back Brand as well. If that's the case, maybe we could get them to part with something else.
 
HCP said:
That would be such a huge amount to take in for a non superstar. I love Iggy, but that's too much. Brand is the shell of what he used to be.
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Brand' putting up pretty good numbers this year. He is ageing though and an injury waiting to happen.
 
If we're still in a "win now" mode, we might be able to pry Iggy away without giving up anything.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2gylnvf

Iggy for Joel, Williams, Babbitt, and Rudy.

That leaves us with:

Andre/Johnson/Mills
Iggy/Roy
Batum/Matthews
Aldridge/Dante
Camby/Oden

But if they're wanting to move more than Iggy, say Brand, then we will have to use more of our expirings to get the deal done. I posted earlier that it might take Miller, Joel, and Camby to get Iggy and Brand. If that's the case, I'm thinking we're planning for next season when Oden is healthy again. Iggy might not be Roy, but he's still a damn good player. I'm wondering if we could pry Evan Turner away from them in the deal if we took Brand...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2gayx79

Joel, Miller, Camby, and Rudy for Iggy, Brand, and Turner.
 
WHatever happens, I would lose it if we gave up Nic!
 
Pardon me, but I would much rather give up Oden.

a) he has more "perceived" value, and
b) Przybilla probably has a few years left, whereas Oden will probably never be healthy. I'd rather band-aid the Center with Camby and Przy, get a decent piece in Iggy, and worry about everything else later. Trade Oden, Elliot Williams, and Babbit for Iggy and move forward.
 
Natebishop3 said:
If we're still in a "win now" mode, we might be able to pry Iggy away without giving up anything.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2gylnvf

Iggy for Joel, Williams, Babbitt, and Rudy.

That leaves us with:

Andre/Johnson/Mills
Iggy/Roy
Batum/Matthews
Aldridge/Dante
Camby/Oden

But if they're wanting to move more than Iggy, say Brand, then we will have to use more of our expirings to get the deal done. I posted earlier that it might take Miller, Joel, and Camby to get Iggy and Brand. If that's the case, I'm thinking we're planning for next season when Oden is healthy again. Iggy might not be Roy, but he's still a damn good player. I'm wondering if we could pry Evan Turner away from them in the deal if we took Brand...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2gayx79

Joel, Miller, Camby, and Rudy for Iggy, Brand, and Turner.
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There's no way they're giving up Turner. They drafted him as the future of that team. The future is bright there too. Turner, Holliday, Young and Speights is one of the better young cores in the league. Turner is going to be a dynamic player.
 
MickZagger said:
There's no way they're giving up Turner. They drafted him as the future of that team. The future is bright there too. Turner, Holliday, Young and Speights is one of the better young cores in the league. Turner is going to be a dynamic player.
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I didn't figure they would, but hey, why not try? :grin:

Seriously though, I'm wondering if we could get Iggy without losing Camby and Miller? We could do it if we used some of our rookies. I suspect it might take Miller and Joel at the very least. If that's the case, could Johnson hold down the point guard spot?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I didn't figure they would, but hey, why not try? :grin:

Seriously though, I'm wondering if we could get Iggy without losing Camby and Miller? We could do it if we used some of our rookies. I suspect it might take Miller and Joel at the very least. If that's the case, could Johnson hold down the point guard spot?
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I think part of the reason that I want Iggy is so that he can re-unite him with Miller. Thats when Iggy played his best ball, they both love to get out and run. Imagine Oden with the rebound, outleting to Miller who has options of Iggy and Batum slashing to the hoop on the wings. I say let go of Pryzbilla, or even Camby if it comes down to it before Miller. I think Miller has a lot of good basketball left in the tank, he doesn't exactly put a ton of stress on the body with his playing style.
 
MickZagger said:
I think part of the reason that I want Iggy is so that he can re-unite him with Miller. Thats when Iggy played his best ball, they both love to get out and run. Imagine Oden with the rebound, outleting to Miller who has options of Iggy and Batum slashing to the hoop on the wings. I say let go of Pryzbilla, or even Camby if it comes down to it before Miller. I think Miller has a lot of good basketball left in the tank, he doesn't exactly put a ton of stress on the body with his playing style.
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But if we trade Camby and Joel, which is a possibility, who plays center? I don't think I could live in a world where I could hear:

"Starting at center, Number 4, Seaaaaaaaaaan Maaaaaaaaaarks."
 
Natebishop3 said:
But if we trade Camby and Joel, which is a possibility, who plays center? I don't think I could live in a world where I could hear:

"Starting at center, Number 4, Seaaaaaaaaaan Maaaaaaaaaarks."
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Hope Oden becomes healthy. Or, sign Dampier who's back on the market.
 
MickZagger said:
Gut feelings are no good. I doubt that happens. Then again, I'm partially gutless.
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I look at the bright side with you...you're not partially gutless, you're mostly full of $hit. :)
 
Don't think we'd have to do Joel and Andre. If they just want to shed salary, Joel, Babbit and Williams for Iggy works. Or, we wait until late December, and replace Williams with Mills. Could always put in a pick or something as well. If they wanted to shed more salary, though, to move him, we'd probably have to make a Miller for Williams type of swap or something, which I'm not too fond of.
 
Joel/Rudy/1st Rounder might get the deal done. I love this deal since it seems like the Camby trade. We add a nice vet that can play defense and start in the likely event that our franchise player at that is down for extended periods.
 
looking at their roster, they need a 5 bad. And if Iguadala is going out they'd probably want another 2 coming back to ease Turner's rookie year. My guess is a Blazer offer would be built around Joel (if and when he demonstrates some health) and Rudy... Cunningham might hold some interest for them as well

STOMP
 
I'd love to get Iggy! Joel/Rudy/Babbit/Williams/NO #1/Por #1 would be awesome; I'd hope we could keep Andre+Camby as Philly wouldn't have much use for either player but they are quite useful for us.
 
I wonder if we need to wait until Joel comes back and plays to trade him? Is he more or less tradeable if playing?
 
Draco said:
I wonder if we need to wait until Joel comes back and plays to trade him? Is he more or less tradeable if playing?
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I think that depends on the team. If a team is just looking for an expiring contract, then it doesn't really matter. Really, they might prefer he not come back at all, and collect insurance. For other teams, they might actually want him tio play C for them, but those teams seem less liekly to make a big deal with, as, if they are looking to add a piece like Joel to help contend, what are they then giving us/getting rid of?
 
Who was that poster who was always dreaming up deals for Iggy? Somewhere, he's smiling.
 
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