Rumor Bucks Shopping Monroe "hard"

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Natebishop3 said:
Well, we were discussing earlier in the thread that there could be a scenario where we can't get someone to commit, the Bucks are willing to trade him for cap space, and someone offers a big contract to Crabbe or Harkless. If that were to happen, and it was a case where we could either use the cap space to acquire Monroe for nothing, or lose it when we match Crabbe/Harkless, then I would be fine using the cap space to bring in Monroe. Our space is gone after this summer anyway.
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I guess it might be defensible from an asset acquisition standpoint (in hopes of flipping him later if things don't work out) but if it's about making the leap from "plucky upstart" to "contender" I don't think people are going to be pleased with the result in a year or two.
 
Monroe would not make us contenders but he would represent a significant upgrade in PF position. At center be'd be a defensive liability Blazers cannot afford when perimeter defense is also suspect. If Monroe was paired with a top class rim protector like Biyombo then MAYBE it could work but problem is there will be no money to acquire Biyombo if you get Monroe now.
 
Sarni said:
Monroe would not make us contenders but he would represent a significant upgrade in PF position. At center be'd be a defensive liability Blazers cannot afford when perimeter defense is also suspect. If Monroe was paired with a top class rim protector like Biyombo then MAYBE it could work but problem is there will be no money to acquire Biyombo if you get Monroe now.
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Remember, Ed Davis is planning on putting on 20+ lbs of muscle this offseason. If only Mike Barrett were still around to confirm that it actually happened...
 
Sarni said:
Monroe would not make us contenders but he would represent a significant upgrade in PF position. At center be'd be a defensive liability Blazers cannot afford when perimeter defense is also suspect. If Monroe was paired with a top class rim protector like Biyombo then MAYBE it could work but problem is there will be no money to acquire Biyombo if you get Monroe now.
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Not so. Monroe has proven that he cannot play with an inside center. You get Monroe, you need a stretch PF. Which sucks because there goes any potential rim protection.
 
dviss1 said:
Not so. Monroe has proven that he cannot play with an inside center. You get Monroe, you need a stretch PF. Which sucks because there goes any potential rim protection.
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Have Chris Boucher come up from Eugene.
 
Sarni said:
Monroe would not make us contenders but he would represent a significant upgrade in PF position. At center be'd be a defensive liability Blazers cannot afford when perimeter defense is also suspect. If Monroe was paired with a top class rim protector like Biyombo then MAYBE it could work but problem is there will be no money to acquire Biyombo if you get Monroe now.
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I feel like I already wrote this.... like twice.... but Detroit proved that idea to be false. They had Monroe paired with Drummond, who is easily one of the best rim protectors in the game. It failed miserably. They both played worse while paired together, than they did while apart.
 
MightyMouseOps1 said:
Monroe’s value was quite high last summer. A spate of teams courted him, including the Portland Blazers who Monroe said he came close to signing with instead of Milwaukee. Sources said the Trail Blazers are no longer interested in Monroe. Ditto for the Knicks, who signed Robin Lopez after Monroe snubbed them.
6 hours ago – via Woelfel's Press Box
Trade, Greg Monroe, Milwaukee Bucks, New York Knicks, Portland Trail Blazers

^^^ latest on Monroe on hoopshype
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When I read that earlier today, my first thought was...... is Portland not interested in Monroe at this time, or forever? They have too many other options in the next 3 weeks that are better. Which would not require a trade. However if they miss on all of them.......I could see Neil revisiting it in a few weeks if he is still available. Option # 5

I mean if he liked him last year, he probably still does....at least a little.
 
This link may have been posted earlier so if I missed it, apologies for the duplication.

http://www.woelfelspressbox.com/blog-entry/21/time-is-winding-down-for-monroe-in-milwaukee

"The best the Bucks could do in terms of a draft pick for Monroe, some NBA officials claim, would be a middle first-round pick, somewhere in the 16-to-22 range. If that is indeed the case, would it make any sense at all for the Bucks, who are coming off a debacle of a season and have to show marked improvement before moving into their new arena, (to) give up an established player like Monroe for an unproven draft pick in what most NBA scouts are calling a mediocre, at best, draft?"

"Monroe’s value was quite high last summer. A spate of teams courted him, including the Portland Blazers who Monroe said he came close to signing with instead of Milwaukee. Sources said the Trail Blazers are no longer interested in Monroe. Ditto for the Knicks, who signed Robin Lopez after Monroe snubbed them."

It seems he could be had quite inexpensively but I'm more interested in the 'WHY' he doesn't fit. It feels like they are leaving some details out.
 
There's a few centers on the free agent market that would be an upgrade over Monroe, I'm not surprised they aren't interested in him right now.
 
Here we go again:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/w...d-what-if-anything-can-the-bucks-get-for-him/

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Hey, if Neil Olshey has shown anything, it's that he's willing to invest resources in players that seem incredibly limited in other settings, and then watch as Terry Stotts makes it work. Stotts' post offense makes a lot of sense for Monroe and could bring out the passing ability he's shown flashes of having but never developed, and the Blazers could send the Bucks the other Plumlee so they have the complete set.

(They also could make this move later this season if Festus Ezeli doesn't thrive right off the bat).
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Not long ago I read he was asking to be traded to New Orleans
 
There is no way we trade for Monroe because wed have to trade away too much just to match up salaries.
 
BonesJones said:
CBS is really killing it this week.

1.) Stotts "Post" Offense?? I don't know if I saw even one (1!) designed post up play.

2.) The salaries aren't even close to matching.
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you must have missed the pick and rolo era..Batum made our big guys look better than they were...I think Turner brings that back to the team
 
BonesJones said:
There is no way we trade for Monroe because wed have to trade away too much just to match up salaries.
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I agree with this..I think we're done for the summer as we stand in the trade world.
 
Stotts hasn't had a really good post player. LMA when he chose to go inside was Stotts' "post game."

My view is a really good coach is going to design plays to get the most of his players.

Thibs in Chicago always talked about the team needing more shooting. Yet he designed plays for twin towers (Gasol + Noah) and for MVP Rose (lots of high screen & rolls).
 
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BonesJones said:
His offense isn't designed around post ups. It's designed around motion and ball movement.
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I think it's more of a case of working with the skills you have on the team in the case of last season. Aminu, Harkless, Henderson weren't afraid to hang in the paint..but we didn't have a guy who could back down his man and finish at the rim over real centers much. Leonard, Vonleh and Ezeli will be those guys..if Leonard adds a post game..he'll be a much better player
 
riverman said:
I think it's more of a case of working with the skills you have on the team in the case of last season. Aminu, Harkless, Henderson weren't afraid to hang in the paint..but we didn't have a guy who could back down his man and finish at the rim over real centers much. Leonard, Vonleh and Ezeli will be those guys..if Leonard adds a post game..he'll be a much better player
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Yeah but even then, the offense will never be post-centric. It may be a big part of the offense, but Stotts philosophy will never be post-ups 1st. Even with LA, there was a steady mix of ball movement, cutters, motion, high pick-n-roll as well as post ups.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah but even then, the offense will never be post-centric. It may be a big part of the offense, but Stotts philosophy will never be post-ups 1st. Even with LA, there was a steady mix of ball movement, cutters, motion, high pick-n-roll as well as post ups.
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LA played his most efficient ball the few times he'd hang in the paint...then complain about it. Rolo did good for half a season. I just think now with Turner, the alley oop will be back and the pick and roll..he'll make Mason, Ed, Meyers, Noah and Festus better scorers
 
I guess at Center he would be OK if we kept Ezeli too. But at PF I think it is proven we need guys who can guard the perimeter or we will get killed. No way can he do that.

The question we need to ask ourselves is do we still need to get better more on the offensive end or better defensively. I think we got better offensively by adding ET while still keeping Harkless and Crabbe. And I think we are better defensively by adding Ezeli and keeping Aminu at PF.

Adding Monroe would make us worse defensively, and could possibly hurt us offensively if he becomes a black hole. Plus he is a UFA next summer and with no Bird rights. Too much to give up for him.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I guess at Center he would be OK if we kept Ezeli too. But at PF I think it is proven we need guys who can guard the perimeter or we will get killed. No way can he do that.

The question we need to ask ourselves is do we still need to get better more on the offensive end or better defensively. I think we got better offensively by adding ET while still keeping Harkless and Crabbe. And I think we are better defensively by adding Ezeli and keeping Aminu at PF.

Adding Monroe would make us worse defensively, and could possibly hurt us offensively if he becomes a black hole. Plus he is a UFA next summer and with no Bird rights. Too much to give up for him.
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He would be our C, no doubt.

There is something to be said for an inside/outside game.

The 3pt shot is great, but sometimes a few high percentage baskets inside are really helpful.

I'm looking forward to seeing if Ezeli is going to beat expectations. We may already have the C we need.
 
Why are we always tied to "rumors" involving Greg Monroe? Please make it stop...
 
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