Budinger to Minnesota for #18 Confirmed

[BoBoBREWSKI]

^^

 

[RR7]

I'm going to say:
Davis (duh)
MKG/Beal/Robinson
big gap
John Henson/Jared Sullinger/Waiters/Royce White/Tyler Zeller
Moe Harkless/Terrence Scott/Andrew Nicholson/Kendall Marshall
Will Barton/Jeff Taylor/Arnett Moultrie/Lillard
don't care
second rounders

(This is purely on the assumption of keeping the players. A lot of GMs like to pick players that they don't want and think are overvalued to trade for the players they want PLUS extra. Like when Nelson picked Tractor Traylor and traded down for Nowitzki, the player he wanted all along. I think that's risky and sort of devalues the players. If you think they're worth that position, take them there and pay them their worth. Don't dick them around like commodities. Sam Presti wanted Westbrook at #4 when that was higher than ANY mock, but fuck it, he just took the player he liked.)

hmmm, no Jae Crowder early lotto for you.

 

[Mediocre Man]

^^

What's wrong with his list?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

You say this as if it is a known fact.

I come to you from the future. (By the way, enjoy The Netherlands while you can.)

The NBA draft is a crap shoot and sometimes you got to bet on snake eyes. High risk/high reward.

I guess I'm risk averse. Years of watching 7foot stiffs get picked in the lottery has done that to me. Of them all, basically only Bynum has paid off, and that's with lots of injuries and being a tool. [I'm not counting dead cert players like Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, Duncan, et. al., because everybody said they'd be great. I'm thinking of players like Benoit Benjamin, Yinka Dare et. al. where there were always doubters.]

 

[RR7]

What's wrong with his list?

Completely leaves off Drummond, Barnes and Rivers

 

[Rastapopoulos]

hmmm, no Jae Crowder early lotto for you.

Fuck it, throw him in there next to Kendall Marshall!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Completely leaves off Drummond, Barnes and Rivers

He asked what was WRONG with the list, not what was RIGHT about it.

It also left off various Joneses and Meyers Leonard.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Rastapop must have had a Red Bull this morning.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I come to you from the future. (By the way, enjoy The Netherlands while you can.)

There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

I guess I'm risk averse. Years of watching 7foot stiffs get picked in the lottery has done that to me. Of them all, basically only Bynum has paid off, and that's with lots of injuries and being a tool. [I'm not counting dead cert players like Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, Duncan, et. al., because everybody said they'd be great. I'm thinking of players like Benoit Benjamin, Yinka Dare et. al. where there were always doubters.]

I see where you are coming from. Call me a victim of the gambler's fallacy, but I tend to think Drummond is being undervalued for exactly the reasons you state above. Prior outcomes of other players is a limited predictor of Drummond's success. We shouldn't shy away from Drummond because of Oden's knees or Yinka Dare's career stats.

 

[Nikolokolus]

#6 for #14, #16 and #18? Anyone?

Yeah, sure why not. More pulls on the slot machine = greater odds of winning.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yeah, sure why not. More pulls on the slot machine = greater odds of winning.

Absolutely. I mean I have no idea how they build those pretty buildings in Las Vegas, but it certainly has nothing to do with this thinking

 

[RR7]

Absolutely. I mean I have no idea how they build those pretty buildings in Las Vegas, but it certainly has nothing to do with this thinking

Except they're not building the casinos with the winnings from those pulls. Unless you're calling 14,16 and 18 a suckers bet.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Except they're not building the casinos with the winnings from those pulls. Unless you're calling 14,16 and 18 a suckers bet.

Just playing.


Speaking of which, there is a chance the old, evil MM will be back soon. I have lost my voice (self diagnosed as Dysphonia) if it is that and not acid reflux I will potentially have to go off the meds. Just a warning the sweet lovable gent you are all enjoying might go away

 

[illmatic99]

For our team as it currently stands, quality > quantity.

Don't trade the high pick just for multiple lower picks.

 

[Blaze01]

I would have liked to see POR get the #18 pick, nor would I have minded POR acquiring Budinger.

Budinger would be an upgrade over Luke "I have no confidence" Babbitt....

 

[Mediocre Man]

I would have liked to see POR get the #18 pick, nor would I have minded POR acquiring Budinger.

Budinger would be an upgrade over Luke "I have no confidence" Babbitt....

Does post Nate, Luke have confidence? His 3 point % sure went way up post, Nate


Regardless, Air Bud is an upgrade, I am just asking

 

[Blaze01]

Until he got close to qualifying for the NBA 3pt%...then he clenched up and couldn't hit the ocean....Decent garbage player, but when shots matter he dissapears....

 

[Mediocre Man]

Until he got close to qualifying for the NBA 3pt%...then he clenched up and couldn't hit the ocean....Decent garbage player, but when shots matter he dissapears....

Could be true. He knew deep down his playing time wasn't when the team mattered. Basically out if and showing what he could do.

 

[e_blazer]

Man, all of this pre-draft scheming and evaluating is giving me a headache.

How long until the post-draft whining and complaining starts?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Man, all of this pre-draft scheming and evaluating is giving me a headache.

How long until the post-draft whining and complaining starts?

Luckily you will have a solid 2 hours where it will level out

 

[BrianFromWA]

Luckily you will have a solid 2 hours where it will level out

B.S. There'll be scheming until our pick, and gnashing of teeth afterwards. There's probably 10 seconds while Stern says "With the 6th pick of the 2012 NBA Draft, the Portland Trail Blazers select ..." that it'll be level.

 

[Mediocre Man]

B.S. There'll be scheming until our pick, and gnashing of teeth afterwards. There's probably 10 seconds while Stern says "With the 6th pick of the 2012 NBA Draft, the Portland Trail Blazers select ..." that it'll be level.

10 seconds is enough for two or three shots, or some solid beer shooting. You will be fine

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

For our team as it currently stands, quality > quantity.

Don't trade the high pick just for multiple lower picks.

AGREE!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Absolutely. I mean I have no idea how they build those pretty buildings in Las Vegas, but it certainly has nothing to do with this thinking

Vegas is built on the backs of losers, but just like the the NBA, there are a few winners

 

[tlongII]

Why? It's a stupid risk.



So the names listed are "nothing". Kendall Marshall? Jared Sullinger? Royce White? Moe Harkless? Terrence Scott? All nothing. Despite the fact that every one of them will have a better NBA career than Drummond.

No they won't. I apologize for being smarter than you.

 

[PapaG]

What in the world is Minnesota thinking? The 18th pick for Chase Budinger?? They already have an abundance of mediocre swing players with Martell Webster and Wesley Johnson. The 18th pick for a 20mpg "shooter" who shoots 36% from 3?

Kahn is fucking amazing, isn't he? Why not take a chance on Fab Melo or Festus Ezeli for interior defense to go alongside Kevin Love?

 

[Blaze01]

Budinger is better than either Webster or Johnson....but I agree, I think the 18th pick has more value than Budinger...

 

[MickZagger]

Budinger is what you hope someday your 18th pick turns into, but very rarely does. Another solid move by Kahn.

 

[Draco]

PJIII might even be there, Terrance Jones, Sullinger. Budinger isn't a guy you'd give the MLE to so he should always be worth less than a first round pick.

 

[Blaze01]

Budinger is what you hope someday your 18th pick turns into, but very rarely does. Another solid move by Kahn.

I would agree with that assesment for most drafts, but I think this draft does have more talent than most drafts do...particularly in the middle of the 1st round....