Politics Bullshit in Wisconsin

[CupWizier]

No don’t do that. Let’s not act like democratic presidents are not guilty. Across all presidencies, left and right, war crimes are committed. The news just never reports the innocents we have bombed because the narrative is “America is the greatest”. Whether it’s bush and Cheney with the weapons of mass destruction bullshit or the countless shit the clintons have gotten away with. It doesn’t matter. People shouldn’t over react to things and that’s why I say what I say about trump. He could totally be guilty for some form of Russian shit, either way he’s always been a billionaire which to me means before his presidency he would of had to do some slimy shit in business. I guess I just don’t get why people waste their time talking about politics and getting angry at each other. It’s what is dividing this country. These politicians don’t give a shit. They do business with each other behind closed doors and then play it up in front of the camera. It’s WWE level bullshit. Both parties are shit

And yet here you are once again in a political thread bitchin about people discussing politics

 

[3RA1N1AC]

They are filthy shitstains. But they have to be, or else they won’t get sweet sweet contributions or lobbying jobs. They have kids to feed, and bills to pay. Poor guys. They are kinda painted into a corner really.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

It is a bit sad that at this point, people would gladly watch democracy nerfed, as long as it helps their side.

Maybe it’s always been like that though, and nobody gave a shit until Facebook told them to.

 

[Chris Craig]

True, there are. It's just funny reading people on the left sit and say "oh my side isn't hypocritical but the republicans are".

Yes, the republican party is hypocritical but don't fool yourself, the democratic party is up there too. It's all the same. A shitty two party system where people will go crazy for one side or the other. I never will understand it but hey, have yourselves a blast

The Dems have done some shit too. I never said they didn't. I am talking about a specific thing the republicans have and are doing. And, instead of speaking on it, talking about what you think about it, you response is the old and done the other side does bad stuff too.

 

[Cippy91]

The Dems have done some shit too. I never said they didn't. I am talking about a specific thing the republicans have and are doing. And, instead of speaking on it, talking about what you think about it, you response is the old and done the other side does bad stuff too.

I still don’t get how you became mod. Jesus Christ do some of you bother reading or do you just react because you’re super far left ideology clouds your thinking. In no way do I defend republicans. I have said time and time again I dislike both sides. It’s not the other side does bad things too response. If you fucking read the post it’s a “I don’t get why anybody left or right cares about politics this much because they don’t give a shit about you and you all are just being pretty divisive over it”.

 

[Cippy91]

And yet here you are once again in a political thread bitchin about people discussing politics

Maybe your life would improve and you wouldn’t be the way you are if you didn’t get so involved in a side. Just saying. Seems you always have something bad to say about me just because I comment on your beloved politics.

 

[donkiez]

I still don’t get how you became mod. Jesus Christ do some of you bother reading or do you just react because you’re super far left ideology clouds your thinking. In no way do I defend republicans. I have said time and time again I dislike both sides. It’s not the other side does bad things too response. If you fucking read the post it’s a “I don’t get why anybody left or right cares about politics this much because they don’t give a shit about you and you all are just being pretty divisive over it”.

I for one care about politics because it affects my life and I want better for myself and my country. We can do better and the biggest problem makers at the moment is Trump and the Republicans. I criticize the Democrats when they deserve it and when they are in power doing shitty things that affects my life then they will recieve the majority of my criticism. Until then apathy is the same as being republican

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[MARIS61]

Can you imagine the outcry if Democrats did this? It would be all over Trump's twitter.

Nonsense.

 

[MARIS61]

This is what happens when republicans cant steal elections.

This is what happens when they WIN elections.

The Republican Governor was elected and is serving his term. Dem Governor is was elected for NEXT TERM.

 

[Cippy91]

I for one care about politics because it affects my life and I want better for myself and my country. We can do better and the biggest problem makers at the moment is Trump and the Republicans. I criticize the Democrats when they deserve it and when they are in power doing shitty things that affects my life then they will recieve the majority of my criticism. Until then apathy is the same as being republican

Well the republicans and democrats don’t care about you and politicians are bought and paid for to push agendas constantly. It’s easy to say great things off a prewritten speech but they have you where they want you. They want to make you believe you have some form of control but yo don’t and nobody does. It’s one big show meant for true division among the people of this country

 

[donkiez]

This is what happens when they WIN elections.

The Republican Governor was elected and is serving his term. Dem Governor is was elected for NEXT TERM.

The republicans are big losers right now and they are acting like it.

 

[donkiez]

Well the republicans and democrats don’t care about you and politicians are bought and paid for to push agendas constantly. It’s easy to say great things off a prewritten speech but they have you where they want you. They want to make you believe you have some form of control but yo don’t and nobody does. It’s one big show meant for true division among the people of this country

Choosing the lesser of two evils still means less evil. If you just want to give up then that's you right as an American, don't expect the rest of us to do the same though.

 

[donkiez]

they have you where they want you.

If you give up then they have YOU right where they want you.

 

[CupWizier]

Maybe your life would improve and you wouldn’t be the way you are if you didn’t get so involved in a side. Just saying. Seems you always have something bad to say about me just because I comment on your beloved politics.

My life is fine. I'm not the one spending time in a forum that involves politics and complaining about i t being about politics. I find it rather hilarious.

 

[CupWizier]

This is what happens when they WIN elections.

The Republican Governor was elected and is serving his term. Dem Governor is was elected for NEXT TERM.

So you would have no problem if an outgoing democratic governor tried changing laws to lessen the power of the incoming republican governor? It all makes sense now why you adore Heil Trump.

 

[barfo]

I still don’t get how you became mod. Jesus Christ do some of you bother reading or do you just react because you’re super far left ideology clouds your thinking. In no way do I defend republicans. I have said time and time again I dislike both sides. It’s not the other side does bad things too response. If you fucking read the post it’s a “I don’t get why anybody left or right cares about politics this much because they don’t give a shit about you and you all are just being pretty divisive over it”.

Whether they give a shit about you is completely irrelevant.

Standing on the beach during a tsunami and saying "well, hurricanes are bad too" is not an appropriate response.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

Both sides need to work together and stop being a bunch of selfish assholes

Hmm. The phrase, “Elections have consequences” keeps echoing in my head.

Not to say I support what Walker’s doing, but to pretend that one party is less nasty and self-interested than the other is nonsense. That’s why I am registered independent. I want nothing to do with elephants or donkeys.

 

[Cippy91]

So you would have no problem if an outgoing democratic governor tried changing laws to lessen the power of the incoming republican governor? It all makes sense now why you adore Heil Trump.

Weird, it’s like no matter how much I post on how I don’t give a shit about trump, the super leftists in here will still make me out to be a trump supporter. Hmmm oh I know. It’s because I also don’t believe in the far leftist ideology and because I don’t believe it, I must be a trump supporter. Great logic

 

[jlprk]

Hmm. The phrase, “Elections have consequences” keeps echoing in my head.

Not to say I support what Walker’s doing, but to pretend that one party is less nasty and self-interested than the other is nonsense. That’s why I am registered independent. I want nothing to do with elephants or donkeys.

Sorry, but one party is less nasty and self-interested than the other. "Both sides do it" doesn't cut it.

 

[donkiez]

Weird, it’s like no matter how much I post on how I don’t give a shit about trump, the super leftists in here will still make me out to be a trump supporter. Hmmm oh I know. It’s because I also don’t believe in the far leftist ideology and because I don’t believe it, I must be a trump supporter. Great logic

why are your only two options, Trump supporter and far left ideology? Only siths deal in absolutes

 

[Cippy91]

Whether they give a shit about you is completely irrelevant.

Standing on the beach during a tsunami and saying "well, hurricanes are bad too" is not an appropriate response.

barfo

Its completely relevant. You put your time in talking about them, voting for them whether it be left or right and it simply does not matter. The billionaire corporate monsters pull the strings. Imagine being able to give to a politician to push your agenda. That’s essentially how all politicians have worked for years and years. All while giving the American people the illusion of some sort of control or vote. Did you have a choice when bush sent us into the Iraq war? Did you have a choice when the dnc fucked over Bernie Sanders? Bottom line is the powers that be will always have the last word and the power to do whatever they want

 

[barfo]

Well the republicans and democrats don’t care about you and politicians are bought and paid for to push agendas constantly. It’s easy to say great things off a prewritten speech but they have you where they want you. They want to make you believe you have some form of control but yo don’t and nobody does. It’s one big show meant for true division among the people of this country

So I guess the solution is that we should all become apathetic like you? If nobody cares about anything, we won't be divided!

But do you think that really solves the problem? If there is no pushback at all, why wouldn't the government become much more corrupt?

Would one party be better than two parties? You wouldn't have to bother to not vote anymore, the elections would all be canceled.

barfo

 

[Cippy91]

why are your only two options, Trump supporter and far left ideology? Only siths deal in absolutes

Well I don’t believe in far leftist or right ideology but apparently none of you can understand we live in Oregon, a super leftist state so yeah, I’m gonna say a far left ideology because that’s what it is. At least in portland and the other bigger places. I don’t believe in a far right ideology either. Once again, I don’t know if you have noticed, the far left ideology is currently poisoning education and big tech corporations as well as media. But sure let’s turn a blind eye to that as well. If I saw a far right ideology constantly being pushed, I would also have an issue. That’s not the case though

 

[barfo]

Its completely relevant. You put your time in talking about them, voting for them whether it be left or right and it simply does not matter.

You are confused. There are differences between politicians, just like there are differences between any set of humans. Even if we accept your theory that they are all exactly equally corrupt, which isn't correct, they are corrupt in different ways.

The billionaire corporate monsters pull the strings. Imagine being able to give to a politician to push your agenda. That’s essentially how all politicians have worked for years and years. All while giving the American people the illusion of some sort of control or vote. Did you have a choice when bush sent us into the Iraq war?

I did have a choice. I voted for Al Gore. He might have done some terrible things had he become president, but I doubt that war in Iraq would have been one of them. Different people make different choices.

Did you have a choice when the dnc fucked over Bernie Sanders?

The DNC is not government.

Bottom line is the powers that be will always have the last word and the power to do whatever they want

So logically, we'd want to choose the powers that be very very carefully.

barfo

 

[Cippy91]

So I guess the solution is that we should all become apathetic like you? If nobody cares about anything, we won't be divided!

But do you think that really solves the problem? If there is no pushback at all, why wouldn't the government become much more corrupt?

Would one party be better than two parties? You wouldn't have to bother to not vote anymore, the elections would all be canceled.

barfo

Yeah you know me, I’m trying to control people obviously. Hey I’m just saying my opinion like you. My opinion is politics are a waste of time and the people in it don’t give one shit about you so it’s kind of a shame you are so invested in it because there would be much less hate and divisiveness if this shit two party system never existed.

The governments been corrupt. For as long as it has existed.

 

[MARIS61]

Choosing the lesser of two evils still means less evil.

This is a fallacy.

Evil is evil, and good is good.

 

[Cippy91]

You are confused. There are differences between politicians, just like there are differences between any set of humans. Even if we accept your theory that they are all exactly equally corrupt, which isn't correct, they are corrupt in different ways.



I did have a choice. I voted for Al Gore. He might have done some terrible things had he become president, but I doubt that war in Iraq would have been one of them. Different people make different choices.



The DNC is not government.



So logically, we'd want to choose the powers that be very very carefully.

barfo

No shit there are differences. The dnc is obviously not government but it’s one side of a party. The corruption goes together. I don’t think they are equally corrupt but yes corrupt in different ways. Some things though don’t change within both parties.

Who knows if al gore was in, it would of been different. Seems to me like most of our presidents love getting into war and issues that aren’t ours. That’s odd. They love signing off on drone strikes that kill innocent civilians. They love doing business with the Saudi Arabians and funding both sides. Trump is doing it. Obama did it. Sure seems the same to me. Business as usual as long as you’re sitting in that seat doesn’t matter if you’re a republican or Democrat

 

[barfo]

Yeah you know me, I’m trying to control people obviously. Hey I’m just saying my opinion like you. My opinion is politics are a waste of time and the people in it don’t give one shit about you so it’s kind of a shame you are so invested in it because there would be much less hate and divisiveness if this shit two party system never existed.

The governments been corrupt. For as long as it has existed.

Not really into shades of grey, are you? Are all governments around the world equally corrupt? Has our government been exactly the same amount of corrupt the entire 240 year history? Or were there maybe periods when it was a little less corrupt or a little more corrupt? Isn't a little less corrupt a good thing? Shouldn't we try to make government a little less corrupt?

barfo

 

[CupWizier]

Weird, it’s like no matter how much I post on how I don’t give a shit about trump, the super leftists in here will still make me out to be a trump supporter. Hmmm oh I know. It’s because I also don’t believe in the far leftist ideology and because I don’t believe it, I must be a trump supporter. Great logic

You also apparently don't have a clue what I was talking about. First, the post of mine you responded to wasn't even posted to you and second, I never mentioned anything about trump, you did. I would like to say great logic in response but it appears your post lacks any logic.