Notice C.J McCollum trying to recuit Paul Millsap

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Sarni said:
Amazing how many terrible contracts were given last year. Really, the league bumping up the cap by over 30% in a year was ridiculous idea.
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It wasn't the league's idea. The league wanted to implement a smoothing approach that would have increased the cap more gradually, with any surplus from the new TV deal divided among all players, but the player's association shot that down. As a result, instead of everyone sharing in the windfall, a couple dozen players who happened to become free agents at exactly the right time got ridiculous deals.

BNM
 
Sarni said:
He will get $30M a year. Are we spending $100M a year on a core of Lillard, CJ, Millsap and Nurkic who won't win us championships anyway?
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If we sign and trade for him we can maybe get them to take few of our contracts. Plus, to build a champion you need to pay, you think the Warriors or Cavs are going to pay less to keep their stars?
 
Blazer4ever said:
If we sign and trade for him we can maybe get them to take few of our contracts. Plus, to build a champion you need to pay, you think the Warriors or Cavs are going to pay less to keep their stars?
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I'd be happy to pay 100M just for Lebron, but not those 4 players. I'd be happy to commit 100M between Durant, Curry and Green, but not those 4 players. It's different. They in fact pay less than these players worth because of the cap situation that allows Lebrons being paid like Millsaps. They should remove max contracts in my opinion. Only benefits the teams that have the real superstars.
 
Boob-No-More said:
It wasn't the league's idea. The league wanted to implement a smoothing approach that would have increased the cap more gradually, with any surplus from the new TV deal divided among all players, but the player's association shot that down. As a result, instead of everyone sharing in the windfall, a couple dozen players who happened to become free agents at exactly the right time got ridiculous deals.
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Yeah, the reason the players union shot it down was because a number of players would have lost out. The idea was to gradually phase the money back in over a number of years, but that would have hurt players who's careers may not have lasted until the end of the phase-in. The total money paid to players in either case would have been the same, but the smoothing plan would have cost older and more marginal players (players who may not be in the league for more than another 2-3 years) so there was really no incentive for the players to sign off on it.
 
GDiama said:
I'd be happy to pay 100M just for Lebron, but not those 4 players. I'd be happy to commit 100M between Durant, Curry and Green, but not those 4 players. It's different. They in fact pay less than these players worth because of the cap situation that allows Lebrons being paid like Millsaps. They should remove max contracts in my opinion. Only benefits the teams that have the real superstars.
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This may be true but with Dame, CJ, Milsap, Nurkic we'd be at least the 2nd best team in the west
 
Sarni said:
I am still amazed how people thought it was good idea to give $17M to random players. Also, why the NBA decided to make it all available immediately, couldn't they find some workaround?
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The league tried. They proposed a 'cap smoothing' that would've bumped the cap up over a 3 year period instead of just 1 summer.
The players association argued it was not fair and vetoed the proposal.
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, the reason the players union shot it down was because a number of players would have lost out. The idea was to gradually phase the money back in over a number of years, but that would have hurt players who's careers may not have lasted until the end of the phase-in. The total money paid to players in either case would have been the same, but the smoothing plan would have cost older and more marginal players (players who may not be in the league for more than another 2-3 years) so there was really no incentive for the players to sign off on it.
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I understand the theory behind the player's association rejecting the smoothing proposal, but the net result was that a relatively small number of mediocre players who were lucky enough to be free agents last summer received a huge windfall, while a lot of more talented players missed out simply because they were not eligible for free agency last summer.

Most teams shot their wad last summer, because for many it was a use it or lose it situation. Even though the cap is going up again this summer, but not nearly as much, a lot fewer teams are under the new cap. There will be a lot less money to go around this summer (and the summer after, and the summer after, etc.) than last. I think the player's association ended up hurting a lot more players than they helped by rejecting the league's smoothing proposal.

BNM
 
BonesJones said:
It wouldn't make sense for PHX but they'd consider it anyway.

Blake Griffin makes more sense for DEN and PHX, but isn't likely.

Other teams to watch Miami, Minnesota, Houston (If they trade away Ryan Anderson), Indiana (If they keep Paul George), Chicago
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BG in Toronto is another option, they have a lot of cap space this summer and idk if Ibaka was the answer they were looking for at PF
 
Boob-No-More said:
I understand the theory behind the player's association rejecting the smoothing proposal, but the net result was that a relatively small number of mediocre players who were lucky enough to be free agents last summer received a huge windfall, while a lot of more talented players missed out simply because they were not eligible for free agency last summer.

Most teams shot their wad last summer, because for many it was a use it or lose it situation. Even though the cap is going up again this summer, but not nearly as much, a lot fewer teams are under the new cap. There will be a lot less money to go around this summer (and the summer after, and the summer after, etc.) than last. I think the player's association ended up hurting a lot more players than they helped by rejecting the league's smoothing proposal.

BNM
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Agreed.
I don't understand the player association rationale on it.
As I understood the proposal, part of the jump in revenue last summer ('16) would have been given to the players a year earlier (summer of '15). I fail to see how that would have a negative impact on veteran players.
 
Bump...Reports have Atlanta shopping Millsap pretty hard. Could it come down to Millsap or Love for the Blazers? Just throwing it out there.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Bump...Reports have Atlanta shopping Millsap pretty hard. Could it come down to Millsap or Love for the Blazers? Just throwing it out there.
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Millsap is a FA. Only way Portland could get him is a S&T with Atlanta. Due to our current status of being over the tax line, a S&T is not an option...
 
tester551 said:
Millsap is a FA. Only way Portland could get him is a S&T with Atlanta. Due to our current status of being over the tax line, a S&T is not an option...
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Did he opt out? He has a player option. He's not a free agent yet.
 
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