CA NOW: Calling Whitman a 'Whore' is Accurate

[BGrantFan]

Classy organization, crandc!



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...foxnews/politics+(Internal+-+Politics+-+Text)

California NOW Chief: Calling Whitman a 'Whore' is Accurate

Published October 15, 2010 | FoxNews.com

The president of the National Organization for Women may have said it's wrong for anyone to call a woman a "whore," but the head of the California NOW affiliate says Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman is one.

California NOW President Parry Bellasalma told the TPM blog on Thursday that the description of the Republican candidate for governor of California is accurate.

"Meg Whitman could be described as 'a political whore.' Yes, that's an accurate statement," Bellasalma said after a TPM blogger called to ask her about a story that appeared on the Daily Caller website.

 

[BGrantFan]

Since NOW clearly is nothing more than a political organization, and only advances the cause for women who agree with its politics, is it going too far to call it the National Organization for (Political) Whores?

 

[maxiep]

It's a shame that NOW puts gender behind politics. Meg Whitman is pro-choice and should represent everything NOW would want to promote. The bottom line is that if Meg Whitman were a Democrat and Jerry Brown a Republican, NOW would be going after Brown with both barrels.

 

[BrianFromWA]

If she's paying her own money in her candidacy to become the governor, and Brown is taking campaign contributions, wouldn't that make Whitman the "john", and Brown the "whore"? Or am I missing something? I'm not too educated on prostitution.

I'm a bit surprised than an educated, successful, business-oriented female candidate would be the target of the National Organization of Women. I guess there's hypocrisy in a lot of places.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't believe anyone on the left or right (except knee jerk contrarian types) think that the Brown campaign calling her a whore was a good thing. He's apologized for it, though the lefties I see on TV feel he blew his response to her at the debate and came off looking terrible because of it.

NOW adding "political" to "political whore" really changes the meaning of "whore" to another and clear meaning that's OK, IMO. Politicians sell themselves for money, so in the spirit of the word, it's a fair label.

 

[BGrantFan]

I don't believe anyone on the left or right (except knee jerk contrarian types) think that the Brown campaign calling her a whore was a good thing. He's apologized for it, though the lefties I see on TV feel he blew his response to her at the debate and came off looking terrible because of it.

NOW adding "political" to "political whore" really changes the meaning of "whore" to another and clear meaning that's OK, IMO. Politicians sell themselves for money, so in the spirit of the word, it's a fair label.

Mmmmmkay

There is not historical context implied when using the word "whore".

 

[maxiep]

I don't believe anyone on the left or right (except knee jerk contrarian types) think that the Brown campaign calling her a whore was a good thing. He's apologized for it, though the lefties I see on TV feel he blew his response to her at the debate and came off looking terrible because of it.

NOW adding "political" to "political whore" really changes the meaning of "whore" to another and clear meaning that's OK, IMO. Politicians sell themselves for money, so in the spirit of the word, it's a fair label.

By that logic, I guess it's okay to call someone in the pocket of one industry or another a "political house ni**er". You know, because I put the word "political" in front of it.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

By that logic, I guess it's okay to call someone in the pocket of one industry or another a "political house n*gger". You know, because I put the word "political" in front of it.

 

[DaRizzle]

ohhhhhhhh.......NAGGERS

 

[jlprk]

Her people should just call him a "bastard" back.

Weird place. In the history of the US, has any state ever had a governor who, you can't understand a word he says?

 

[Denny Crane]

By that logic, I guess it's okay to call someone in the pocket of one industry or another a "political house ni**er". You know, because I put the word "political" in front of it.

If the N word had some sort of meaning in that context, I suppose. I know that Colin Powell was called a house n**ger by black folk on the left.

 

[maxiep]

If the N word had some sort of meaning in that context, I suppose. I know that Colin Powell was called a house n**ger by black folk on the left.

Are you saying "house ni**ger" has no current connotation? We'll agree to disagree.

 

[Denny Crane]

You don't see the hypocrisy?

 

[maxiep]

You don't see the hypocrisy?

The hypocrisy of NOW supporting Brown? Of course I do.

 

[crandc]

That's funny. Because I went to NOW's web site, not Fox News, and found this:

October 13, 2010

Last night at the California gubernatorial debate, Jerry Brown apologized for a member of his campaign staff suggesting Meg Whitman, his opponent in the race, be called a "whore." This overdue apology was a necessary step; however, it was accompanied by an assertion that these sorts of comments are part and parcel of what happens inside political campaigns. If so, that needs to change.

While our California chapter's Political Action Committee voted to endorse Brown on the basis of his support for women's rights, the National Organization for Women clearly and unequivocally condemns calling Meg Whitman, or any woman, a whore. This term is hate speech that carries with it negative connotations associated with women, and it has no place in contemporary society.

NOW calls on Brown, from this point forward, to fire any member of his staff who uses this word or any hate speech against women.

 

[BGrantFan]

That's funny. Because I went to NOW's web site, not Fox News, and found this:

Are you disputing the quote from the CA leader of NOW? It appears on more than just Fox News. Plus, the quote originated with a report from TalkingPointsMemo.com, which could hardly be called a conservative site.

That said, I am not at all surprised that you would try and obfuscate the message by attacking the messenger.

 

[crandc]

And here is the link to California State NOW's page on the gubernatorial elections.

CA NOW

 

[crandc]

Are you disputing the quote from the CA leader of NOW?

Yes. Until I see it on their Web site. Because Fox has made things up before. They gave $1 million to the Republican Party. They are not neutral.

You would say neither is NOW, but at least they are more likely to quote themselves accurately. Perhaps, and I say perhaps, one person used that term but I have not seen any official statement.

 

[maxiep]

That's funny. Because I went to NOW's web site, not Fox News, and found this:

Here's the money quote (my emphasis added)

NOW calls on Brown, from this point forward, to fire any member of his staff who uses this word or any hate speech against women.

If that's not covering for the Brown Campaign, I don't know what is.

 

[BGrantFan]

Here you go crandc. This is from the Huffington Post. I guess that makes it true!



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/14/meg-whitman-whore-now_n_763211.html

 

[jlprk]

Why is it hypocrisy for NOW to advocate for the candidate they think will help women more?

I see no hypocrisy.

Does a right wing veterans group advocate for a candidate who's a veteran but who they think won't push the legislation for veterans?

Doe the NRA advocate for a candidate who practices at the gun range but will push legislation that they think won't help them?

Those 2 examples happen all the time. Many Democratic candidates pipe up that they own guns, but can't get NRA backing. Many liberal politicians spent time in the military, but are opposed by veterans lobbies. So I didn't just make up the 2 examples.

You conservatives who are suddenly worried about hypocrisy, will you be criticizing veterans groups and the NRA this election because of the same supposed inconsistency?

(This is the first time I've ever argued for NOW, which stinks. But conservatives smell even worse, so I'll hold my nose and help NOW.)

 

[BGrantFan]

crandc runs away when confronted by a quote from the Huffington Post.

Either that, or she is saying "neener neener neener" with her ears plugged and eyes shut in the corner of willful ignorance.

 

[BGrantFan]

Why is it hypocrisy for NOW to advocate for the candidate they think will help women more?

I see no hypocrisy.

How does Jerry Brown and his circle of male cronies help women more than Meg Whitman, a self-made woman who started her own successful business and now wants to help other women (and men) follow their dreams?

 

[barfo]

How does Jerry Brown and his circle of male cronies help women more than Meg Whitman, a self-made woman who started her own successful business and now wants to help other women (and men) follow their dreams?

I think you've confused Meg Whitman for Mother Teresa. What she now wants is to be governor.

Further, she didn't start eBay or any other business.

barfo

 

[BGrantFan]

I think you've confused Meg Whitman for Mother Teresa. What she now wants is to be governor.

Further, she didn't start eBay or any other business.
barfo

She didn't start it, but she made it wildly successful as CEO. What successful business has Jerry Brown been involved with in his long career in government?

 

[barfo]

She didn't start it, but she made it wildly successful as CEO.

That's true, and if you had said that I would not have objected to it.

What successful business has Jerry Brown been involved with in his long career in government?

What successful government programs has Meg Whitman been involved with in her long career in the corporate world?

Now, what's the job they are running for? Corporate executive? Or government executive?

barfo

 

[BGrantFan]

That's true, and if you had said that I would not have objected to it.



What successful government programs has Meg Whitman been involved with in her long career in the corporate world?

Now, what's the job they are running for? Corporate executive? Or government executive?

barfo

You have zero issue with term "political whore" being approved by the CA head of the NOW. Got it.

 

[barfo]

You have zero issue with term "political whore" being approved by the CA head of the NOW. Got it.

Huh? I didn't address that issue at all. You are reaching.

barfo

 

[BGrantFan]

Huh? I didn't address that issue at all. You are reaching.

barfo

That was the topic of the thread.

 

[barfo]

That was the topic of the thread.

It may have been the original topic of the thread, but the thread wandered. In any case, posting in this thread doesn't give you the right to assign me an opinion on the original topic.

barfo