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Blazers need a backup PG at this point. Calathes a RFA will at least add some defense and toughness to the backcourt. Wouldn't be the worst option off the bench.
 
Yeah, were definitely going to need to upgrade the backup PG spot. Watching Frazier, he aint gonna get it done. Nice player. But dude has trouble getting his shot off. Too small.
 
Calathes is terrible. He has the series of a lifetime against us. But dude is bad. Hell no
 
MickZagger said:
Yeah, were definitely going to need to upgrade the backup PG spot. Watching Frazier, he aint gonna get it done. Nice player. But dude has trouble getting his shot off. Too small.
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Frazier should watch old Spud Webb vids on Utube. Surely he is at least an inch taller. He is fresh to this level. Maybe he will surprise us and excel like Iverson did. Question?? Could Cougington(sp) or Crabbe play point as well as SG?
 
I think Sergio Rodriguez or Donald Sloan are the best options right now, If not them - Jameer Nelson.
 
I'd love me some Sergio on this team. But How old is he, what is he making in Spain, does he want to come off the bench, and would Olshey and Stotts want to cut into CJs time? He may not fit Olsheys criteria.

We don't need this Calathes guy. The Blazers want to run CJ at point to get the ball in his hands against other teams second stringers. Plus after OKC matches (or trades with us) we are getting Augustine.
 
Sergio's only 29, but he just signed an extension with Rudy and Real Madrid through 2018. Not sure if we can even buy him out if he wanted to.
 
Schilly said:
I'm ok with Dame/Tim/CJ of we bring in anyone a cheap vet as a mentor locker room guy. Ridnour maybe.
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Ill give my opinion of last nights game in the proper thread, but I think this will work. I was fairly impressed with Frazier if you consider everything.
 
I was hoping to see something from Frazier yesterday, a skill he has that maybe he wasn't able to show in limited minutes last season. Already knew he can't shoot, but you figure he'd show some flashes in summer league vs. D League type talent. Best you can say is he has intangibles of being a gritty hustler & he's got a high motor. But there's just not a lot of talent there. We need to get a decent b/u PG, even if it's an older mentor type like Jameer Nelson. Somebody that can give you quality minutes & run an offense. It's one thing to rebuild & go with youth, but nobody wants to get beat by 25 every night. I'd even take another year of Blake vs. watching Frazier's jump passes get picked off & his shots at the rim get sent into the 3rd row. Am I missing something with this guy? He just doesn't look like an NBA player to me.
 
Kaydow said:
I was hoping to see something from Frazier yesterday, a skill he has that maybe he wasn't able to show in limited minutes last season. Already knew he can't shoot, but you figure he'd show some flashes in summer league vs. D League type talent. Best you can say is he has intangibles of being a gritty hustler & he's got a high motor. But there's just not a lot of talent there. We need to get a decent b/u PG, even if it's an older mentor type like Jameer Nelson. Somebody that can give you quality minutes & run an offense. It's one thing to rebuild & go with youth, but nobody wants to get beat by 25 every night. I'd even take another year of Blake vs. watching Frazier's jump passes get picked off & his shots at the rim get sent into the 3rd row. Am I missing something with this guy? He just doesn't look like an NBA player to me.
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Did you watch the game? We didn't get beat by 25. Frazier and his penetration and kickout was a large part of our second half come back. Dude almost had a triple double.
He is young like most. Dont think you are seeing his ceiling now. Like almost everyone on this new roster, they will need tutilege and coaching as they progress. I saw the potential as a decent back up PG as long as he grows as to be expected with his youth and getting familiar with the NBA.
 
Guys, Sergio has grown and he's not too old (just turned 29) so he has time to Emerge.

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Orion Bailey said:
Did you watch the game? We didn't get beat by 25. Frazier and his penetration and kickout was a large part of our second half come back. Dude almost had a triple double.
He is young like most. Dont think you are seeing his ceiling now. Like almost everyone on this new roster, they will need tutilege and coaching as they progress. I saw the potential as a decent back up PG as long as he grows as to be expected with his youth and getting familiar with the NBA.
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Watched the whole game. Maybe I'm being too critical of the kid, but I expected to see more than a few nice penetration & kick outs. Besides the turnovers, the clanked FTs, having his shots blocked, & the amount of time he spent on the floor, he doesn't pass the eye test. If you're an undersized defensive liability who doesn't doesn't shoot well or excel at getting to the rim, you've at least got to take care of the ball. I hope you're right & I'm wrong about him. I still want a vet b/u PG as insurance.
 
The more we debate over which garbage players we should pursue, the more I'm starting to turn against Olshey.
 
Kaydow said:
Watched the whole game. Maybe I'm being too critical of the kid, but I expected to see more than a few nice penetration & kick outs. Besides the turnovers, the clanked FTs, having his shots blocked, & the amount of time he spent on the floor, he doesn't pass the eye test. If you're an undersized defensive liability who doesn't doesn't shoot well or excel at getting to the rim, you've at least got to take care of the ball. I hope you're right & I'm wrong about him. I still want a vet b/u PG as insurance.
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check the stats. He's leading summer league in APG. The only one close is Mudiay who the press is fauning over even though Frazier has a better A/TO. Frazier FG% is a very respectable 47.6% from the field. (Mudiay is shooting 16/43 or 37%). In addition, Frazier is also averaging 7 RPG - ridiculous for a PG.

Seriously, try this. Use your eye test on pretty much any other guard, then move it back to Frazier and you'll see he's kicking serious ass.
 
Man. Basketball in Greece. That's a tall order right now.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Why?
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Because we have plummeted to the depths. But then a couple of hours later, I like this Whitsitt-like, action-packed week. So I'm going back and forth on Olshey. I sure didn't think we'd lose 4 starters and about 27 substitutes. (No one ever mentions that he also gave away almost the whole bench, slivers included.)

But I like him more moments than I'm disappointed. Kind of like Batum. A never-ending soap opera. (Does this generation even know what that means, since moralistic talk shows replaced soap operas and quiz shows in the daytime TV part of the Reagan Revolution?)

So I like Olshey...but I reserve the right to change, depending upon whether his Clipper philosophy results in years of our being the league's laughing stock.
 
I'm impressed with Olshey's summer so far. We have five years to figure out what's up with Dame.
 
I'd pass on Calathes. Good player but not the right fit.

I want to see CJ get at least 15 minutes at b/u PG and another 15 minutes at b/u SG. With only a few minutes here or there for a 3rd PG, we have that covered in Tim Frazier. It's the year of development and PT.
 
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