California Bans "Gay Cure" Therapy

[Denny Crane]

I'm sorry, but trying to 'cure' a minor who identifies as gay into being straight is mental abuse. The state 100% has a compelling interest in that.

No it doesn't.

Counseling is between doctor and patient. Let the AMA or other association of doctors figure it out.

 

[crandc]

I am now aware of what school or state counsels young people on "how to be gay". Damn, what I missed - I had to figure it out for myself.

Denny, doctors have decided. Reparative therapy has been denounced as ineffective and harmful by every medical, psychiatric, and pediatric organization. I think it is entirely appropriate to protect children who are being forced into harm. I mean, seriously, do you oppose laws against beating, starving, tying up, prostituting children? Do you think child abuse should be a crime?

Well, "reparative therapy" is child abuse.

 

[Denny Crane]

If the AMA, APA, and every other medical organization tasked with governing the ethics of their profession forbid it to their members, it is more than sufficient.

I have zero belief in the therapy and am quite sure it is harmful. Yet it isn't a legal question or issue. The state can forbid the counsellors it hires from performing any service it chooses.

I mean, there are many harmful medical practices that might be performed that aren't outlawed. The AMA does a fine job assuring best practices happen.

As well, if the practice is actually malpractice, it is a civil matter. As in sue for damages.

 

[maxiep]

The state has no compelling interest in this, either way. They should spend the money on math, PE, or art classes.

Bingo. I think this therapy is a joke and utterly pointless (who care who loves who?), but I will defend it's right to exist on free speech grounds.

 

[crandc]

Advocating turning gay people straight is free speech. Child abuse is not free speech.

 

[Denny Crane]

So they'll have priests do it and call it exorcism.

The abuse of govt. to make laws against things you find offensive is just not a winning proposition.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

is it legal to make your kid smoke a carton of cigarettes locked in the closet? i always heard of people doing that, but that seems like child abuse too

 

[DaLincolnJones]

is it legal to make your kid smoke a carton of cigarettes locked in the closet? i always heard of people doing that, but that seems like child abuse too

might as well throw in

going to bed with out dinner

confinment to ones room

spanking

harsh language

dirty looks

 

[3RA1N1AC]

might as well throw in

going to bed with out dinner

confinment to ones room

spanking

harsh language

dirty looks

dirty looks are the same as forcing a kid to smoke a carton of cigarettes locked in a closet? mmmkay

 

[DaLincolnJones]

dirty looks are the same as forcing a kid to smoke a carton of cigarettes locked in a closet? mmmkay

did your father ever spank you with a belt? Have you never had a look from him have more impact than a spanking? I have.

 

[Denny Crane]

is it legal to make your kid smoke a carton of cigarettes locked in the closet? i always heard of people doing that, but that seems like child abuse too

When did the governor of California sign a law against it?

Let's see some precedent.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

did your father ever spank you with a belt? Have you never had a look from him have more impact than a spanking? I have.

umm no, ive never been scarred and bruised from a dirty look

have you ever smoked a carton of cigarettes in a closet?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

umm no, ive never been scarred and bruised from a dirty look

have you ever smoked a carton of cigarettes in a closet?

scarred and bruised sounds more like assault, there are laws against that.

not at one time, but I did smoke a quarter ounce of green bud in the early 70s, never had a better PB and J in my life.