OT California Will Vote In November To Split Into 3 States

[SlyPokerDog]

Why isn’t this in the Official Around The Country Thread?

There is no way to embed a banjo soundtrack into the thread.

 

[julius]

I like this one (for 51)

 

[julius]

Or this one for 54 states (PR, N California, S California and that weird state that makes up part of Oregon and California, Jefferson!)

 

[barfo]

Pretty sure it's going to be this

 

[Natebishop3]

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Pretty sure it's going to be this

Nope

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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I googled imaged US Flag with 51 stars and up pops that. It was too good not to post.

 

[Lanny]

I like this one (for 51)

Damn, you're as bad as Sly.

 

[santeesioux]

We could put up a border wall on the Oregon border and I could be a border guard keeping those damn Commiefornians out!

 

[riverman]

Just give Southern California to Mexico from Los Angeles to TJ....let S Cal start at Santa Barbara and Northern Cal start in the bay area

 

[Lanny]

Hell yes, and I've lived there.

I not only worked in the town Michael Brown died in, I worked on that street.

Some little known facts about Missouri when I lived there in the mid 80s:
1. They close up shop around 7 PM. That includes the grocery stores;
2. You must have a St. Louis check guarantee card to cash a check. Even a guarantee card from Kansas City, Mo. does not work;
3. No alcohol on Sunday. This includes beer. I accidentally grabbed a short case from a cooler and proceeded to the checkout where I got a scolding from the clerk;
4. It was legal to drink and drive. This includes a high ball if that's your choice;
5. No hardware on Sunday. You can't buy a hammer or some nails or a ladder or any other item that you might expect at a hardware store. You couldn't even buy this stuff at the housewares aisle in the grocery store.
6. They hate African-Americans. The 'N' word was heavily used. I judged it to be worse than where a lot of my family comes from in Alabama and Georgia.
7. They recycle nothing. Oh, maybe cans for their aluminum content;
8. They think throwing trash out your moving car's window is normal;
9. One summer practically every day was over 100 and some days got as hot as 110;
10. One winter day it hit 29 below;
11. Every red light has someone running through it. Typically there are at least 2 that do it. One time I saw approx. 50 cars go through a red light. The rest of us could not advance even though we had a green light;
12. The traffic jams were worse than Seattle by quite a bit;
13. There is a lot of violent crime. One evening I couldn't get into my apartment complex because the police had it roped off. The brother of one of the prominent Portland Trail Blazers had come for a football tryout. Did not recieve the position and robbed a store. He was tracked back to my complex and eventually shot himself. I forget the Blazer but it was the brother of the Blazer that broke Rudy's jaw when he was with Houston. Somebody will recall who the Blazer was. Also, our secretary and her girlfriend were robbed and their diamond rings taken in a bump and rob deal in Ferguson. Then my lead engineer had a knife placed against his throat while his wallet was taken. Then another engineer had his car stolen. He got it back with his expensive tires and wheels replaced by four baldies. They took the interior so that he had nothigng to sit on while he drove the car home from the impoundment lot. He also needed a screw driver to work the now torn apart ignition. Another guy in my complex had his four wheels stolen and is car was left sitting on blocks under the axles. I was threatened by a thug who wanted to "beat the shit" out of me.

Other than that it was a great place.

Edit: Changed "traffic hams" to "traffic jams".

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Hell yes, and I've lived there.

I not only worked in the town Michael Brown died in, I worked on that street.

Some little known facts about Missouri when I lived there in the mid 80s:
1. They close up shop around 7 PM. That includes the grocery stores;
2. You must have a St. Louis check guarantee card to cash a check. Even a guarantee card from Kansas City, Mo. does not work;
3. No alcohol on Sunday. This includes beer. I accidentally grabbed a short case from a cooler and proceeded to the checkout where I got a scolding from the clerk;
4. It was legal to drink and drive. This includes a high ball if that's your choice;
5. No hardware on Sunday. You can't buy a hammer or some nails or a ladder or any other item that you might expect at a hardware store. You couldn't even buy this stuff at the housewares aisle in the grocery store.
6. They hate African-Americans. The 'N' word was heavily used. I judged it to be worse than where a lot of my family comes from in Alabama and Georgia.
7. They recycle nothing. Oh, maybe cans for their aluminum content;
8. They think throwing trash out your moving car's window is normal;
9. One summer practically every day was over 100 and some days got as hot as 110;
10. One winter day it hit 29 below;
11. Every red light has someone running through it. Typically there are at least 2 that do it. One time I saw approx. 50 cars go through a red light. The rest of us could not advance even though we had a green light;
12. The traffic hams were worse than Seattle by quite a bit;
13. There is a lot of violent crime. One evening I couldn't get into my apartment complex because the police had it roped off. The brother of one of the prominent Portland Trail Blazers had come for a football tryout. Did not recieve the position and robbed a store. He was tracked back to my complex and eventually shot himself. I forget the Blazer but it was the brother of the Blazer that broke Rudy's jaw when he was with Houston. Somebody will recall who the Blazer was. Also, our secretary and her girlfriend were robbed and their diamond rings taken in a bump and rob deal in Ferguson. Then my lead engineer had a knife placed against his throat while his wallet was taken. Then another engineer had his car stolen. He got it back with his expensive tires and wheels replaced by four baldies. They took the interior so that he had nothigng to sit on while he drove the car home from the impoundment lot. He also needed a screw driver to work the now torn apart ignition. Another guy in my complex had his four wheels stolen and is car was left sitting on blocks under the axles. I was threatened by a thug who wanted to "beat the shit" out of me.

Other than that it was a great place.

As a person who doesn't eat any kind of pork what so ever anymore.(14 years and counting) I totally understand why you weren't a fan of the Traffic Hams.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

As a person who doesn't eat any kind of pork what so ever anymore.(14 years and counting) I totally understand why you weren't a fan of the Traffic Hams.

Was just reading through that and wondered if that was a euphemism for transit police. "When that Asian traffic ham pulled me over and mispronounced my name, I called him pork fried rice..."

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Was just reading through that and wondered if that was a euphemism for transit police. "When that Asian traffic ham pulled me over and mispronounced my name, I called him pork fried rice..."

No, your reason wasn't my reason. I assume you saw what I was referring to when you read through it? I do wonder now, whose Traffic Ham is better? Seattle's or Missouri?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

As a person who doesn't eat any kind of pork what so ever anymore.(14 years and counting) I totally understand why you weren't a fan of the Traffic Hams.

But... ribs...

Beef ribs just aren’t the same brother...

 

[andalusian]

Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother****er. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eatin' nothing that ain't got sense enough to disregard its own feces.

 

[MarAzul]

Hell yes, and I've lived there.

I not only worked in the town Michael Brown died in, I worked on that street.

Some little known facts about Missouri when I lived there in the mid 80s:
1. They close up shop around 7 PM. That includes the grocery stores;
2. You must have a St. Louis check guarantee card to cash a check. Even a guarantee card from Kansas City, Mo. does not work;
3. No alcohol on Sunday. This includes beer. I accidentally grabbed a short case from a cooler and proceeded to the checkout where I got a scolding from the clerk;
4. It was legal to drink and drive. This includes a high ball if that's your choice;
5. No hardware on Sunday. You can't buy a hammer or some nails or a ladder or any other item that you might expect at a hardware store. You couldn't even buy this stuff at the housewares aisle in the grocery store.
6. They hate African-Americans. The 'N' word was heavily used. I judged it to be worse than where a lot of my family comes from in Alabama and Georgia.
7. They recycle nothing. Oh, maybe cans for their aluminum content;
8. They think throwing trash out your moving car's window is normal;
9. One summer practically every day was over 100 and some days got as hot as 110;
10. One winter day it hit 29 below;
11. Every red light has someone running through it. Typically there are at least 2 that do it. One time I saw approx. 50 cars go through a red light. The rest of us could not advance even though we had a green light;
12. The traffic hams were worse than Seattle by quite a bit;
13. There is a lot of violent crime. One evening I couldn't get into my apartment complex because the police had it roped off. The brother of one of the prominent Portland Trail Blazers had come for a football tryout. Did not recieve the position and robbed a store. He was tracked back to my complex and eventually shot himself. I forget the Blazer but it was the brother of the Blazer that broke Rudy's jaw when he was with Houston. Somebody will recall who the Blazer was. Also, our secretary and her girlfriend were robbed and their diamond rings taken in a bump and rob deal in Ferguson. Then my lead engineer had a knife placed against his throat while his wallet was taken. Then another engineer had his car stolen. He got it back with his expensive tires and wheels replaced by four baldies. They took the interior so that he had nothigng to sit on while he drove the car home from the impoundment lot. He also needed a screw driver to work the now torn apart ignition. Another guy in my complex had his four wheels stolen and is car was left sitting on blocks under the axles. I was threatened by a thug who wanted to "beat the shit" out of me.

Other than that it was a great place.

Wow!
That is way more than I learned about the place before I chose not to work there.

I had a choice of a contract with Boeing there or with ATSF Railroad in Topeka some years ago. I was rather interested in doing the Boeing Contract, it seemed quite intriguing.
But St Louis... not so much.

I took the Railroad job. Crap! The Railroad police ran me out of town within two months.

 

[riverman]

Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother****er. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eatin' nothing that ain't got sense enough to disregard its own feces.

you eat beef? They eat their own regurgitated vomit ….

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm voting to split California in 3 BTW. woo woo

 

[BrianFromWA]

The Democrats like it because it gives them (in their mind) Four more Democrat Senators. You can see it in the boarders they draw. California is predominately Democrat in the Coastal strip from
San Francisco, including Marin to LA. But they divide up this small geographic band to give the other two area a piece of the larger democrat population.
This will never fly in Congress.

I was thinking to myself "this seems like a state-wide Gerrymander..."

But permit me to associate myself with many of the concerns @crandc brought up. Not the least of which is...who owns the CA debt/treasury/pension obligations? And it's not like the Supreme Court will allow, say, "South CA" to operate under a different set of laws than Current CA...so what's the point?

 

[barfo]

I'm voting to split California in 3 BTW. woo woo

Of course you are.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

I'm voting to split California in 3 BTW. woo woo

I was thinking to myself "this seems like a state-wide Gerrymander..."

But permit me to associate myself with many of the concerns @crandc brought up. Not the least of which is...who owns the CA debt/treasury/pension obligations? And it's not like the Supreme Court will allow, say, "South CA" to operate under a different set of laws than Current CA...so what's the point?

I was thinking, man this will be interesting to see how they handle some glaring issue of contention now. Making three states of the place sure will not help.
The first off the top of my mind is water.
Most of it is in the North and there is not enough to do all the North wants, like keep the sea out of the Delta, west of Suisun Bay even. The South will be screwed if the North gets control of it's water.

The list is long here, but even if all this were not issues to the voters and they vote for this, four more US Senator of caliber of Dianne Feinstein and Kamala Harris might cripple the nation!
I think you are correct about the court not permitting to what can never be agreed. I can't see it ever getting through Congress to get to the court.

Ha! I is not funny when you look at it. California is probably past the point of bankrupt in unfunded liabilities. There is no way in hell of dividing that up agreeably. Bankruptcy probably must go first before agreements could be made, and then that only solves this one issue. Now talk about water, which is too little for too many.

 

[andalusian]

you eat beef? They eat their own regurgitated vomit ….

You know this was a quote from Pulp Fiction, right?

 

[MarAzul]

This issue of dividing California may just bring the proper attention to some issues that have been allowed to continue far too long.

1. Unfunded liabilities is the first. It is much more wide spread than just California. It is how Democrats get elected nationwide. Make deal now, that come due in the future!
2. Delta sinking, Oceans rising (continuing). The areas of the Delta that are adjacent to navigable waters are about 16' below sea level today. Sinking as we speak and as they pump more water from the wells. As the sea continues it's rise, the US Corps of Engineers foots the bill to maintain the continuous battle to protect the farm land. The State of California foots the bill to get the farmers and workers to the land, maintaining the sinking roadways bridges and Ferry system. Those that profit, do not pay the cost.
3. I would like to say Gerrymandering will come under scrutiny big time, but the root cause may even get exposed. You see they make sure each state has one of the huge populations centers so that the Democrats are equally allocated to areas of widespread conservatives. But my question is why create the huge population centers that cannot be supported withing the resources of the surrounding area. The only benefit they provide is create an environment that attracts the liberal Democrat. These areas then must be politically associated with conservative area only as large as they can dominate politically, but yet too small to provide the resource needed for the total population. Illogical, unsustainable.

 

[PDXFonz]

Just give Southern California to Mexico from Los Angeles to TJ....let S Cal start at Santa Barbara and Northern Cal start in the bay area

Breaking news.
The United States have traded Southern California and the #10 draft pick to Mexico for the #25 pick in the draft and 100 kilos of cocaine.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Those of you more knowledgeable about this than I, what’s the federal laws for adding a new state? Wouldn’t the federal government have to have congress vote the states in?

I see @e_blazer answered your question.

Here is the direct quote from the Constitution of the United States:

Article IV. Section 3. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.

 

[MarAzul]

I see @e_blazer answered your question.

Here is the direct quote from the Constitution of the United States:

It is going to be real hard to get those votes in the legislature I think. Congress will even be more difficult.

 

[Lanny]

As a person who doesn't eat any kind of pork what so ever anymore.(14 years and counting) I totally understand why you weren't a fan of the Traffic Hams.

Pardon me but do to a combat related injury I've lost the eyesight in one eye and have very diminished vision in the other eye. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Pardon me but do to a combat related injury I've lost the eyesight in one eye and have very diminished vision in the other eye. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

If you saw that as a criticism, I apologize, it was purely a humorous post. I do have a dry wit and not everybody gets my sense of humor, maybe you are one? My hope was when you read my post you got a slight chuckle out of it. Maybe send a witty response back.

Sorry.