Can we please stop talking about Prichard and Allen?

[the ob]

When are we going to let this issue die? I do not know about the rest of you but all the talk about what happened and what did not happen is getting tiring. I say we all get it out in this thread and then let it go. Prichard may or may not have been fired because he deserved it. Allen may or may not be a meddling owner. From my perspective here is a list of what I think we do know. I recently had a chance to meet someone who works for the blazers and some of this information is from that person.

1) Prichard was not scheduled to be fired an hour before the draft. He specifically pushed the issue at that time and forced paul allen to do what he did.

2) The GM position is about relationships. Prichard apparently does not have good relationships with other GM's.

3) It would be nice if Paul Allen issued a statment that made all of us feel better, but he is a very private person who is not know for doing that type of thing.

4) Paul Allen can do what ever he wants.......he owns the team.

5) Allen decided to fire Tom Penn for reasons unknown. Prichard came out and backed Penn which in turn made it look like he was not backing Allen (which is part of his job) which probably pissed Allen off.

6) Something shady went on with LeGarie. He had a hand in this whole situation.

7) Prichard has probably taken credit for things that he did not do and not taken blame for things he did. I see the role as GM in part as one where you should deflect to others when positive things happen and take the blame when bad things happen.

8) We all loved Paul Allen up until the Penn firing. I find it hard to believe that all of the sudden he is a bad owner. I am sure like the rest of us, he desperately wants to win. he has done a lot for this team to help them win and get better. he has consistently put his money where his mouth is.

I know the title of this thread does not match the content. I am hoping we can all purge ourselves and move on with a more positive attitude. Once again, we are NEVER going to know the whole story. Either for legal reasons or otherwise.

Come on everyone let it out..........

 

[Sug]

This is my new response to all things KP.

 

[the ob]

This is my new response to all things KP.

my point exactly

 

[XXPrimusXX]

But... But... This is Clown Town.

 

[maxiep]

Sorry, but I'm still pissed about Petrie getting canned in favor of Whitsitt. This one I expect will stick with me for just as long.

Live with the pain.

 

[the ob]

Sorry, but I'm still pissed about Petrie getting canned in favor of Whitsitt. This one I expect will stick with me for just as long.



Live with the pain.

maxiep, you know they have people who can help you deal with these types of issues right?

that was literally 100 years ago.......

 

[Mediocre Man]

Why make a thread about Allen and Pritchard if you don't want people to talk about it?

 

[the ob]

Why make a thread about Allen and Pritchard if you don't want people to talk about it?

I want to get it all out and let it go. Please read the last line in my thread.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Why?

HEY! BREAKING NEWS FLASH!!

This is a message board. Posters discuss what they want. If they want to continue to discuss the Al Davis and KP situation, then that's what this board is here for- not for you to dictate what we all can and cannot discuss. otherwise, go start your own friggin' board.

 

[maxiep]

maxiep, you know they have people who can help you deal with these types of issues right?

that was literally 100 years ago.......

There are people who can help with these kind of issues--they're called competent owners. Perhaps we'll get one of those one day. This one doesn't know what he doesn't know.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Maybe we make a new rule that all new threads and posts be approved by ob first.

 

[the ob]

Why?

HEY! BREAKING NEWS FLASH!!

This is a message board. Posters discuss what they want. If they want to continue to discuss the Al Davis and KP situation, then that's what this board is here for- not for you to dictate what we all can and cannot discuss. otherwise, go start your own friggin' board.

I am not a dictator. I am guessing a lot of people are tired of this. I have no desire to start my own board. although, I would like a board dedicated to everything I want to discuss all the time!!! on second thought, maybe I will start my own board. thanks for the idea blazer prophet. BTW go ducks.

 

[the ob]

Maybe we make a new rule that all new threads and posts be approved by ob first.

you are my favorite poster. I hope you are the first person to sign up for my new board.

 

[maxiep]

I want to get it all out and let it go. Please read the last line in my thread.

It's not going to happen. Clearly, Pritchard wasn't blameless, but stop pretending like Allen didn't make his own bed. For Christ sakes, we're talking to Randy fucking Pfund, a guy who was fired from the Heat because he couldn't make Pat Riley's shoes as shiny as his hair. If that doesn't tell you that this isn't an attractive job, I don't know what does. To blow something up because of ego is amateur hour. KP's an egotistical prick. So what? Larry Miller isn't? Bert Kolde is a nice guy? C'mon.

Paul Allen can do with this team what he pleases because he owns the team. However, as a fan I can evaluate his performance as an owner, and regardless of how much money he's willing to spend, it's clear after 22 years, he hasn't learned very much.

 

[the ob]

It's not going to happen. Clearly, Pritchard wasn't blameless, but stop pretending like Allen didn't make his own bed. For Christ sakes, we're talking to Randy fucking Pfund, a guy who was fired from the Heat because he couldn't make Pat Riley's shoes as shiny as his hair. If that doesn't tell you that this isn't an attractive job, I don't know what does. To blow something up because of ego is amateur hour. KP's an egotistical prick. So what? Larry Miller isn't? Bert Kolde is a nice guy? C'mon.

Paul Allen can do with this team what he pleases because he owns the team. However, as a fan I can evaluate his performance as an owner, and regardless of how much money he's willing to spend, it's clear after 22 years, he hasn't learned very much.

maxiep, I do not disagree with you. I am frustrated that we will never know all the facts. Paul Allen may be a crappy owner, but I do feel like he has tried to consistently make the team better. Would you agree that for the most part, he was a very popular owner up until the penn firing?

 

[crandc]

8) We all loved Paul Allen up until the Penn firing. I find it hard to believe that all of the sudden he is a bad owner. I am sure like the rest of us, he desperately wants to win. he has done a lot for this team to help them win and get better. he has consistently put his money where his mouth is...

That is what really bugs me. Everyone is either a hero or a villain. Either KP is a hero and PA a villain, or vice versa. And PA goes from being hero to villain apparently overnight. He's exactly the same person he was when KP sat by him.

That and the fact that no one knows the facts, but everyone is SURE their speculation is correct. As is any gossip columnist who happens to agree with their speculation.

Repped.

 

[BGrantFan]

I agree. Let's start talking about Bert Kolde and Pritchard.

 

[maxiep]

maxiep, I do not disagree with you. I am frustrated that we will never know all the facts. Paul Allen may be a crappy owner, but I do feel like he has tried to consistently make the team better. Would you agree that for the most part, he was a very popular owner up until the penn firing?

Being a popular owner isn't the same as being a good owner. I happen to think that our cheapskate owners Weinberg, Sarkowski and Schmertz were better owners than the petulant billionaire. Peter Holt doesn't have the money of most owners, but he gets results because he knows when to stay out of the way. I think Allen should sell the team, even if its to someone less wealthy.

 

[maxiep]

That is what really bugs me. Everyone is either a hero or a villain. Either KP is a hero and PA a villain, or vice versa. And PA goes from being hero to villain apparently overnight. He's exactly the same person he was when KP sat by him.

That and the fact that no one knows the facts, but everyone is SURE their speculation is correct. As is any gossip columnist who happens to agree with their speculation.

Repped.

And for many of us, it's not quite so simple. But you keep on painting with two colors--black and white--it's working well for you.

 

[the ob]

crandc is correct in that we are probably NEVER going to know what happened.

 

[maxiep]

crandc is correct in that we are probably NEVER going to know what happened.

Yet you want to put all the blame on one party. Super duper.

 

[the ob]

Yet you want to put all the blame on one party. Super duper.

I do not understand what you are talking about. I believe that I mentioned at least 4 people who all had a hand in this in my post. I think Allen, Prichard, Penn and LeGarie all played a role in this decision. Pointing blame has nothing to do with my post.

 

[maxiep]

I do not understand what you are talking about. I believe that I mentioned at least 4 people who all had a hand in this in my post. I think Allen, Prichard, Penn and LeGarie all played a role in this decision. Pointing blame has nothing to do with my post.

LOL! The closest you came to putting blame on PA was in saying he can do what he wants. And by definition, you're blaming KP for associating himself with LaGarie. You keep on buying the Blazers spin, though. At least some of us can step back and see both sides are full of shit.

 

[the ob]

LOL! The closest you came to putting blame on PA was in saying he can do what he wants. And by definition, you're blaming KP for associating himself with LaGarie. You keep on buying the Blazers spin, though. At least some of us can step back and see both sides are full of shit.

your are very impartial. you should be a supreme court justice. I want to be like you when I grow up.

 

[maxiep]

your are very impartial. you should be a supreme court justice. I want to be like you when I grow up.

Thank your for admitting you need to grow up.

 

[the ob]

Thank your for admitting you need to grow up.

thank you for taking my comment literally

 

[Nikolokolus]

You might as well of titled this thread "Let's fight!"

 

[MARIS61]

That is what really bugs me. Everyone is either a hero or a villain. Either KP is a hero and PA a villain, or vice versa. And PA goes from being hero to villain apparently overnight. He's exactly the same person he was when KP sat by him.

When was Allen ever a hero?

To me he's always been an impatient nerd who has periodic meltdowns every 5-7 years, dragging the team down with him each time.

To me he's the billionaire who sucked the life out of many Portland small businesses by declaring "bankruptcy", who still has not repaid several million dollars of his local debts and has no intention of ever doing so.

To me he's the owner who insists on making the final decision, and some very idiotic ones from time to time, then publicly uses his GM for the ultimate scapegoat when those decisions don't work out so good.

Had he not been born into a wealthy family, I assume he'd be in jail for fraud, embezzlement, or some similar weasel-like crime.

But maybe I set my standard requirements for hero-worship too high?

 

[the ob]

You might as well of titled this thread "Let's fight!"

lol, I wish I could rename it.

 

[Cake]

Beating a dead horse? Really? The draft and pritchard's firing finally came to an end one week ago after simmering for six months or so. Why is it beating a dead horse? Would we have stopped talking about the championship if we had won it? That was a whopping two weeks ago.

If you're tired of talking about a subject or hearing about a subject...avoid threads involving that subject.