Canzano Reporting that Portland's Inquired about Nash

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And then he went on to pull the "two years away" card.

Such bullshit.

This Blazer team is ready to win right now.
 
I'm so torn on this. I realize Nash could be a major, necessary piece to a championship. I just don't want to give up assets unless I feel for sure he puts us over the top. I'm not sure about that.
 
Crimson the Cat said:
He says that a local radio station down in PHX gave him the info.
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True or not, I've got to say I am so glad Paul Allen didn't sell the team. It's really nice having an open checkbook when most of the teams in the NBA are trying to dump salary to stay under the luxury tax.

Given the current economic challenges in the NBA I bet KP is going to get all kinds of interesting phone calls during the off season.
 
This team couldn't win on the road against anything resembling a good western conference team, and some of you really think we are ready to compete right now?


Steve Nash is an obvious upgrade, but I still think the dynamic with Nate's slow pace would be a sight to see. If Nate continues to play at the pace he has then bringing in Nash makes no sense.
 
It certainly is an interesting off-season considering the current economy. I guess if you have billions...one of the top 5 richest people in the world...you can afford to spend a little to help your team.

I just hope KP/Penn can decipher what is a good deal and what is taking advantage of money bags when other GM's come calling.
 
Let's put a hypothetical out there...

If POR was able to acquire Nash let's say in a deal centered around Bayless.....which I think would be possible...

and then POR was able to manuever other assets to acquire a young PG, like a Stephen Curry (my choice), or a Jonny Flynn, Jrue Holiday, Tywon Lawson, Jennings, Maynor...

Would that be worth serious consideration?
 
I don't consider Nash a good defender (rather have Kidd) and he generally works better in a running offense (which Nate keeps talking about), but can that all fall into place with Nash here?

Tough call for me. I would rather keep Bayless (anxious to see what comes out of his time this summer with Oden), draft a backup PF and pickup a veteran FA (Miller, Sessions).
 
Somewhere 'shamelessblazer' is whacking it to the news of our interest in Nash..
 
Mediocre Man said:
Steve Nash is an obvious upgrade, but I still think the dynamic with Nate's slow pace would be a sight to see. If Nate continues to play at the pace he has then bringing in Nash makes no sense.
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Yeah, the slower pace is an interesting issue -- it reminds me of the Schuler era. I still wonder if the Drexler teams of the 90's owe something to Schuler being a disciplinarian and harping on fundamentals. By the time he left, the team was well on it's way to being fundamentally sound. Then Adelman showed up, opened the floodgates a little so that the pace picked up, you throw in the addition of Buck and the rest was danged good history (well, other than winning a championship.)

The let the cake bake thing usually refers to the players, but Nate is still a young coach and it could be applied to him too. He's got a good coaching philosophy and he's a good teacher, but I think the next step in his progression is to learn how to also coach to his team's abilities. Throwing in a veteran that he trusts that can run uptempo might be the way to get him over the hump.

If he doesn't make that next step (while I'd be bummed to see it), I wouldn't be shocked to see Nate let go. And I'm guessing in a situation like that, who ever replaced Nate would look like a genius.
 
Nash really doesn't interest me at all. He doesn't fit our system. I'd much rather have Andre Miller or Jason Kidd. Nash has about as much chance of being successful here as Sergio imo.
 
Hi Canzano! Thanks for the shoutout!
 
yuyuza1 said:
And then he went on to pull the "two years away" card.

Such bullshit.

This Blazer team is ready to win right now.
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How can we say that until we see what moves are made this off-season? As currently constructed they are maybe (big fat maybe) a second round team, but probably not ... just think of how many years those Clyde teams had first round exits until they got Williams? Right now this is a really nice regular season team, but has too many question marks to be considered a real contender to the title.
 
They'd want Bayless, but I think they'd be pretty interested in a package including Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, and Sergio Rodriguez. I believe that satisfies the CBA. I'll have to go back and look. They could cut Steve and Trav, save $7.6M immediately and still add Sergio as an inexpensive yet talented PG. Rebuild mode. That would bring PHX's payroll to $66M, right around where the luxury tax should be. They save about $13M in luxury tax (assuming the threshold drops to $65M).

We'd still have some pieces to continue to improve, namely Bayless, Fernandez, #24, the 2nd rounders, Batum, Frye, the traded-player exception ($3M), and still some cap space (how much I haven't figured out).

The next obvious targets could be Tayshaun Prince, Caron Butler, Richard Jefferson, Mike Miller, or Vince Carter.

I might be more inclined to go after Jefferson, thinking that the price would be less and possibly a deal could be struck to receive their draft pick as well.

Interesting to consider adding Nash, Jefferson, and another lottery draft pick.
 
As previous posters have pointed out, Nash was not good under Porter's system, which is a similar defensive-based, half-court offense that Nate employs.

I do not have a problem with his age.

However, I do have a problem with the TOs (especially in the 4th qtr) and complete lack of defense. Those attributes lose you playoff games.

Besides, in the recent head-to-head games this past season, Blake actually out-played Nash.

There are better options.
 
Mediocre Man said:
This team couldn't win on the road against anything resembling a good western conference team, and some of you really think we are ready to compete right now?


Steve Nash is an obvious upgrade, but I still think the dynamic with Nate's slow pace would be a sight to see. If Nate continues to play at the pace he has then bringing in Nash makes no sense.
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At the same time, you have to wonder if merely bringing in Nash might up the number of easy buckets the team gets a night. It has been years since the Blazers had a point guard with floor vision to hit the bigs. The last one who was actually an excellent passer (not counting Pippen) was Porter. Strickland was washed up the last time he was here. I sit back and think about all the times last year where the team just flat out missed Aldridge and Oden open under the hoop or ahead of the pack, and I think it would be nothing but gravy if Nash played here.
 
Is it plausible that nate would change to an uptempo offense if he had confidence in a heady faster-paced guard
 
I would give up Bayless and change (depending on the change) in a SECOND to get Nash and for the reason just mentioned, that he plays the pick and roll brilliantly. Oden would flourish. HOWEVER, I do not believe that Phoenix will give him up. The Phoenix fans would openly revolt. And they've just committed to a coach who will run D'Antoni's system.
 
As consistent as Nash has been over the last few years, his age still concerns me. At some point, likely sooner than later, he's going to start breaking down and needing major rest. Would we have the talent to spell Nash for long stretches? I'd rather see Bayless be groomed for the position this year.
 
The Phoenix fans would openly revolt. And they've just committed to a coach who will run D'Antoni's system.
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maybe, but they are going nowhere....and a good GM should know it...deal shaq, nash and yes, maybe Amare and rebuild...better now than wait until the whole thing utterly collapses and those guys aren't worth as much as they are now and your franchise is a rambling wreck and you have just extended your rebuilding window...

Nobody actually thinks they are title contenders do they? I mean, can they even rebound and MAKE the playoffs? That is a major "If" as well IMO...

I doubt Sergio as a centerpiece could get it done...Bayless would be the enticing piece and this draft does offer a uniquely large group of talented PG to replace Bayless with...not that I am overly enthusiastic for many of them, but there are a few (Curry being one) that certainly would lessen the blow of losing Bayless....
 
Why on earth would we trade Bayless for 35.5 year old Steve Nash, who also suffers from Spondylolisthesis? Without Bayless, we literally have no future at PG.

It's really awesome(and rare) that he's been able to play well at such a mature age, but I really wonder how long that can continue. All the available FA PGs this season are old.

Perhaps Steve Nash is an extremely rare player, like Jerry Rice, or John Stockton, who can play at a high level until he's 40.
 
If we can get him as a salary dump? Sure. If we have to give up (much) talent to get him? No, thanks. He would be a high-risk, high-reward acquisition, and if the Blazers are going to pay that much for the pleasure of seeing him bounce back or come back to earth, I don't want to have them give up value to the Suns for it.

Ed O.
 
If he'll play for the Timbers too, then yes!
 
Is it plausible that nate would change to an uptempo offense if he had confidence in a heady faster-paced guard
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Yes I think it is very plausible that would happen...Nash isn't Sergio....
 
Blaze01 said:
Let's put a hypothetical out there...

If POR was able to acquire Nash let's say in a deal centered around Bayless.....which I think would be possible...

and then POR was able to manuever other assets to acquire a young PG, like a Stephen Curry (my choice), or a Jonny Flynn, Jrue Holiday, Tywon Lawson, Jennings, Maynor...

Would that be worth serious consideration?
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Yes. I think so. I've already warmed up to the idea of adding Nash. I agree that they'd first want Bayless, but I also think they'd negotiate to instead include Sergio. A package of Sergio, Steve, and Travis might be amenable. We might have to throw in a second rounder to seal the deal.

Basically they'd receive Serg for Nash, but they'd be able to instantly cut Steve and Travis (saving them $8.25M and another $8.25 in luxury tax). They could just cut Nash, as he too has an non-guaranteed contract, but they wouldn't be adding Sergio (who is a promising young talent!) and they'd only save about $6.5M.

I suppose there are other teams that will be under the cap that could offer as much, but only Detroit and Atlanta appear to be teams with a win-now mentality, and to be honest, neither of those seem like the right fit or are as close as we are to contending. We appear to be in the driver's seat.

The next goal of the team, IMO, is moving up into this draft to get their targeted player. I think we would still have the ammo to do this.
 
Just as an FYI, some of you may know that I live in AZ, some may not. Anyways, the local sports talker has been pimping all morining that the Suns and Nash are beginning contract extension talks today. No real news here other than just that.
 
Blaze01 said:
Yes I think it is very plausible that would happen...Nash isn't Sergio....
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Nate has been a coach in the NBA for 9 years and has always had a slow pace. I can't believe anyone still thinks he wants to run.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Nate has been a coach in the NBA for 9 years and has always had a slow pace. I can't believe anyone still thinks he wants to run.
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While I'd agree it'd be a new development, the Seattle teams he coached were better suited to a slower pace and I also think the crazy young teams he's had in PDX needed some of the fundamentals that come with a slower pace. That said, I think the team is getting to a place where it's solid and could be let off the leash a lot more.

Is slow all that Nate knows or has he just been coaching to his teams? I'd like to think he's more versatile and that we'll see more uptempo play next season. But I'm also an optimist.
 
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