Carmelo Anthony?

[Universe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Nuggets have made no indication that they will actively shop Carmelo Anthony, but they will listen to offers, according to the Denver Post.

Because of his off the court problems and the luxury tax, Denver may be inclined to see what sort of package Anthony would yield.</div>

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...rs_for_carmelo/

Denver trades:
Carmelo Anthony
Nene

New Jersey trades:
Richard Jefferson
Sean Williams
Marcus Williams
Trenton Hassell
10th overall pick

Why for us?

Carmelo is a 23 year old, 25 PPG scorer who has had his troubles but is still an All-Star. He could be the face of Brookyln rather than hoping for LeBron to leave Cleveland. We also take in Nene who has a large contract but Kiki seems to love him.

Why for them?

They get youth and a pick while starting JR Smith and gaining someone who can run the court with AI and JR.

 

[reganomics813]

I'm not a 'Melo fan. I was really surprised to hear how much Barkley called him out for being a ball stopper during their first round exit this past season as it's 100% the reason his team has problems becoming a great one.

We don't need a star as much as we need players who can come in day in and day out, busting their butts, and actively try make the other guys around them better by embracing the team concept. Some may say Melo would help us by being the focus of the defense but i'm not particularly thrilled with his decision making abilities and that's putting it very politely.

 

[Answer_AI03]

pretty good trade for Denver. I would do it. i would do k-mart first, then say Nene though.

 

[SportsTicker]

When superstars get traded, the normal return involves a good young player, draft picks, and expiring contracts to provide cap room. Trade exceptions are nice too. It's a rare that a superstar is traded for a superstar.

--Vince Carter for two first round picks, Aaron Williams, Eric Williams and Alonzo Mourning.

--Kenyon Martin for three first round picks and a $10 million trade exception.

--Jason Kidd and Chris Dudley for Stephon Marbury, Somaila Soumake, Johnny Newman and a trade exception.

--Devin Harris, Trenton Hassell, Maurice Ager, Keith Van Horn, two first round picks, two trade exceptons and $3 million in cash for Kidd, Allen and Wright.

 

[ghoti]

Pegs is too busy cleaning his keyboard to post.

 

[Jizzy]

i wold def. trade for him and that trade idea of yours is not going to be enough

 

[J-HoAgZ]

I love Melo and he will definately sell tickets but I'm remember someone on this site showed that his defense is so bad that the Nuggets do better when he's not even on the court. On NBA.com they have his EFF at +16.50 but maybe I'm looking at the wrong statistic. Somebody showed that his +/- thing was negative but I just can't find it. I guess I'm in favor of Melo now since I can't find anything saying he sucks? It's never gonna happen though so it doesn't matter.

 

[Accelerate]

I don't see Carter and Melo working well together at all.

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ May 10 2008, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pegs is too busy cleaning his keyboard to post.</div>
Actually, he's busy stalking a girl on facebook.

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Accelerate @ May 10 2008, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see Carter and Melo working well together at all.</div>

Why would you say that?

Carter is an initiator. Anthony is an elite finisher who can score from anywhere on the court.

The combination of Melo, Harris and Carter would make a dangerous combination.

 

[pegs]

DO IT THRON

I heard a rumor (just a rumor) that Lebron might have come to SU if Carmelo stayed for another year.

Anyways, Carmelo is alot better than most people think, and that Karl is just a retard who doesn't know how to use him. I'd love if we could get him, and I think he'd be able to gel with this team just fine. Especially if we use him in the post.

 

[Universe]

PG - Devin Harris
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Nene
C - Josh Boone

Damn nasty starting five. Add that with Krstic or Diop comming off the bench too.

 

[razel231]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ May 10 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG - Devin Harris
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Nene
C - Josh Boone

Damn nasty starting five. Add that with Krstic or Diop comming off the bench too.</div>
I don't recall Nene ever been healthy for a full season and our bench would be a weak link again as usual.

 

[d-blockrep2]

hypothetical question with Carter and Melo, who is going to play defense?

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ May 10 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hypothetical question with Carter and Melo, who is going to play defense?</div>

Who can the Nets possibly trade for Melo that is currently a defensive asset?

Harris is probably the only good defensive player on the roster who's more than salary filler.

This is all pointless anyway because Denver isn't trading Melo for anything the Nets have to offer.

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ May 10 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ May 10 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hypothetical question with Carter and Melo, who is going to play defense?</div>

Who can the Nets possibly trade for Melo that is currently a defensive asset?

Harris is probably the only good defensive player on the roster who's more than salary filler.

This is all pointless anyway because Denver isn't trading Melo for anything the Nets have to offer.
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I can only think of Diop.

 

[Joey FistPump]

This is even more unlikely than the Lebron James speculation.

 

[ly_yng]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ May 10 2008, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Accelerate @ May 10 2008, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see Carter and Melo working well together at all.</div>

Why would you say that?

Carter is an initiator. Anthony is an elite finisher who can score from anywhere on the court.

The combination of Melo, Harris and Carter would make a dangerous combination.
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The only thing that combination would be dangerous to is Thorn and Frank's job security.

Teams with star power loaded up at the wing positions always underachieve. Jordan aside (and even he had Rodman), is there a single great team in the history of basketball that didn't have an All-Star at either the 4 or the 5?

You just can win with all your cap money tied up in three stars if none of them is a big man.

 

[Balla 15]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ May 10 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hypothetical question with Carter and Melo, who is going to play defense?</div>

Carter has been playing much better defense than Jefferson for awhile now. The current Jefferson that played this past season was almost a liability on defense.

 

[kdub]

Melo is a child who looks like he'll never grow up.

No thanks.

 

[ly_yng]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ May 10 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is even more unlikely than the Lebron James speculation.</div>

So you're saying it's even more unlikely than "definitely going to happen"?

 

[Joey FistPump]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ May 10 2008, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ May 10 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is even more unlikely than the Lebron James speculation.</div>

So you're saying it's even more unlikely than "definitely going to happen"?
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I wouldn't say LBJ to the Nets is even close to a definate...they have a lot of expiring contracts next season which could be used in a trade or to making a free agent signing at the end of next season...the following season they have Ben Wallace and Big Z off the cap as well...they could actually do some damage with this cap room and trade assets over the next few seasons and keep Lebron.

Also need to take in consideration that we may not be in Brooklyn then and therefore would give him no financial reason to sign with us as we would not be a big market team thus his contract escalators would not be activated...

We also might not be under the cap given Carter will be commanding almost 20 million of our cap space at that time.

The reality is that while there is a chance he could end up in a Nets uniform it's still not likely.

 

[Astral]

http://www.82games.com/0708/07DEN9D.HTM

I wouldn't take him if nuggers were giving him away for free. He's one of the most overrated players that ever set foot on an NBA floor. A one dimensional idiot if there ever was one.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ May 11 2008, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://www.82games.com/0708/07DEN9D.HTM

I wouldn't take him if nuggers were giving him away for free. He's one of the most overrated players that ever set foot on an NBA floor. A one dimensional idiot if there ever was one.</div>

Holy Smokes! You take that back!

 

[ghoti]

This is a 23-year-old All-Star who basically won an NCAA championship by himself and has been on winning (Western Conference) teams since entering the NBA.

You can call him names if it makes you feel better, but his trade value will remain extremely high (which is exactly what Nuggets management would have to be to consider trading him).

 

[Kid Chocolate]

I want to know all of you calling him overrated, based on being on the Nuggets.

Is he overrated when he plays for TEAM USA? Is it the player or is it the team (Nuggets)?

 

[Astral]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ May 11 2008, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want to know all of you calling him overrated, based on being on the Nuggets.

Is he overrated when he plays for TEAM USA? Is it the player or is it the team (Nuggets)?</div>
Why not?
He didn't do anything different on team USA. Boohoo. He can shoot over shorter, less athletic people. He still got exploited defensively and team USA gave up threes like no tomorrow. The big difference between Team USA and The Nuggets is that on Team USA he has 4 other superstars who can cover up a lot of his defensive short comings, rebound and distribute the ball for easy baskets.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ May 11 2008, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ May 11 2008, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want to know all of you calling him overrated, based on being on the Nuggets.

Is he overrated when he plays for TEAM USA? Is it the player or is it the team (Nuggets)?</div>
Why not?
He didn't do anything different on team USA. Boohoo. He can shoot over shorter, less athletic people. He still got exploited defensively and team USA gave up threes like no tomorrow. The big difference between Team USA and The Nuggets is that on Team USA he has 4 other superstars who can cover up a lot of his defensive short comings, rebound and distribute the ball for easy baskets.
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How was Melo averaging 21.2 ppg on 61.3% shooting for TEAM USA? Man, the international players must be REALLY short and unathletic.

I would figure that about 90% of the players in the NBA can shoot over shorter, less athletic people. Why doesn't TEAM USA put one of those guys who can play better defense on the team, they OBVIOUSLY would be better than Melo, right?

Blaming Melo for team defense has no validity, either.

You make it sound like most other players in the NBA can score like Melo. He's a 24 year old who has averaged over 20 ppg every year of his 5 year career, and averaged over 25ppg his last 3 years in the league, while shooting over 46% for his career. Well, I guess ANYONE can do that by shooting over shorter, less athletic players.

Would you take Michael Redd over Melo?

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Also, how can you explain Melo leading his team to the NCAA championship? 4 other players who covered up his shortcomings?

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 10 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ May 10 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ May 10 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hypothetical question with Carter and Melo, who is going to play defense?</div>

Who can the Nets possibly trade for Melo that is currently a defensive asset?

Harris is probably the only good defensive player on the roster who's more than salary filler.

This is all pointless anyway because Denver isn't trading Melo for anything the Nets have to offer.
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I can only think of Diop.
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You can't trade players unless they are on your roster. The CBA is very clear about that.