Casey Holdahl: Power Rankings

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http://forwardcenter.net/power-rankings-almost-at-the-top-in-week-7/

I don't want to take away from his gathering, so I recommend you read for yourself, but to summarize...

Mark Stein has us 5th

David Aldridge has us 7th (We were fucking 9th last week!!!!)

Marc Spears has us 3rd

John Schuhmann has us 3rd

Matt Dollinger has us 2nd

Matt Moore has us 3rd

Josh Martin has us 2nd

Jimmy Spencer has us 3rd

Drew Garrison has us 3rd

Bryan "Fight the Power" (who the fuck is this guy?) has us 4th

 

[BBert]

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

 

[DaLincolnJones]

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There is plenty of room on the Blazer Wagon!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

David Aldridge has us 7th (We were fucking 9th last week!!!!)

Hollinger has us 7th too. Actually dropped us a spot after only beating the Knicks by 4.

 

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Hollinger has us 7th too. Actually dropped us a spot after only beating the Knicks by 4.

Hollinger is a program though. It just runs numbers and puts us on a rank. The others are actually humans behind them. And Aldridge had us 9th last week.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Hollinger is a program though. It just runs numbers and puts us on a rank. The others are actually humans behind them. And Aldridge had us 9th last week.

I understand that. What I'm saying is that the Hollinger statistical ranking actually supports Aldridge's human ranking--that the fact that he's the outlier doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong. You know, like when Hollinger's statistical ranking supported Kingspeed's presumably ludicrous "Will the Rockets make the playoffs?" thread.

Of course, Aldridge has the Rockets 2nd, whereas the Hollinger model has them 12th, so...make of that what you will.

 

[e_blazer]

Hollinger has us 7th too. Actually dropped us a spot after only beating the Knicks by 4.

Interesting logic given that he moved the Mavs ahead of us and they had to go to overtime to beat the Knicks a couple of weeks ago... and they were at home.

 

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I understand that. What I'm saying is that the Hollinger statistical ranking actually supports Aldridge's human ranking--that the fact that he's the outlier doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong. You know, like when Hollinger's statistical ranking supported Kingspeed's presumably ludicrous "Will the Rockets make the playoffs?" thread.

Of course, Aldridge has the Rockets 2nd, whereas the Hollinger model has them 12th, so...make of that what you will.

But it really doesn't since Aldridge had us 9th last week, when the Hollinger program had us 5th.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

But it really doesn't since Aldridge had us 9th last week, when the Hollinger program had us 5th.

Different methodology. The Hollinger program reevaluates daily, based on SOS and last 10, whereas Aldridge updates weekly based primarily on prior ranking and weekly w-l record. But their end conclusion is the same--we're not necessarily as good relative to the rest of the league as our record says we are.

Are you in a particularly contentious mood today? You seem to be arguing with me over nothing...

 

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Different methodology. The Hollinger program reevaluates daily, based on SOS and last 10, whereas Aldridge updates weekly based primarily on prior ranking and weekly w-l record. But their end conclusion is the same--we're not necessarily as good relative to the rest of the league as our record says we are.

Are you in a particularly contentious mood today? You seem to be arguing with me over nothing...

I'm in no mood that would gear me to argue with you. I was just wondering how Aldridge and Hollinger are related to the ranking. The reason was because Aldridge had us 9th and dropped us to 7, while Hollinger had us 5 last week and 7th now.

So I hope you aren't taking offense to my questioning....

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The SlyPokerDog ranking has the Blazers at #1.

 

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The SlyPokerDog ranking has the Blazers at #1.

Same here!

 

[magnifier661]

Different methodology. The Hollinger program reevaluates daily, based on SOS and last 10, whereas Aldridge updates weekly based primarily on prior ranking and weekly w-l record. But their end conclusion is the same--we're not necessarily as good relative to the rest of the league as our record says we are.

Are you in a particularly contentious mood today? You seem to be arguing with me over nothing...

Btw... I thought you were gonna do weekly power rankings?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm in no mood that would gear me to argue with you. I was just wondering how Aldridge and Hollinger are related to the ranking. The reason was because Aldridge had us 9th and dropped us to 7, while Hollinger had us 5 last week and 7th now.

So I hope you aren't taking offense to my questioning....

I'm pretty difficult to offend. I just know that sometimes you get debate happy.

As for how they're related, I think it's pretty obvious. Aldridge's ranking was easily the lowest of those in the compilation, and it just happened to match the ESPN statistical model, irrespective of historical ranking.

 

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I'm pretty difficult to offend. I just know that sometimes you get debate happy.

As for how they're related, I think it's pretty obvious. Aldridge's ranking was easily the lowest of those in the compilation, and it just happened to match the ESPN statistical model, irrespective of historical ranking.

What do you mean I'm debate happy?! I don't debate!

 

[crowTrobot]

More importantly we're apparently signing LeBron next summer

 

[PDXFonz]

By the way, I get that LeBron is LeBron, but ESPN leading of their coverage of the game with LeBron is kind of lame. Show some respect to the guys who are actually playing.

Hear hear!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Welp, looks like we will miss the playoffs. Good season while it lasted though

 

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Welp, looks like we will miss the playoffs. Good season while it lasted though

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

Not quite. Even with the drop, Blazers are still 98% favored to make the playoffs.

But hey, Houston is creeping up with a 30% chance to miss the playoffs

 

[Mediocre Man]

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

Not quite. Even with the drop, Blazers are still 98% favored to make the playoffs.

But hey, Houston is creeping up with a 30% chance to miss the playoffs

25.2%, actually

 

[magnifier661]

25.2%, actually

Much better than being a 55% chance of missing a couple weeks ago.

 

[PDXFonz]

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

Not quite. Even with the drop, Blazers are still 98% favored to make the playoffs.

But hey, Houston is creeping up with a 30% chance to miss the playoffs

Eh, I feel like that number is heavily reliant on the % it gives us to win the devision. Expect both percentages to go down once the Thunder start winning.

 

[THE HCP]

Why is this called Casey's rankings? Isn't this all the other writers rankings?

 

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Why is this called Casey's rankings? Isn't this all the other writers rankings?

Pay attention noob... Click the link

 

[HailBlazers]

More importantly we're apparently signing LeBron next summer

Yea little did poor Melo know King James was there to watch his future teammates:

"I knew he was in town, but I didn't believe that he would come," Anthony said. "That just goes to show what type of guy he is regardless of what team he's on. There's a support system there. I took my hat off to him for coming to support me tonight. At the end of the day he had a couple of days off and he came to support. I don't think you can say anything bad about that."

 

[KingSpeed]

Only rankings I care about are the standings.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

rasheedfan2005's rankings

blazers #1
all the rest tie for 30th

 

[riverman]

At this point in the season I have the good guys ranked 3rd in the league and quickly gaining ground

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I like what I'm seeing, but wee need to win more comfortably against these awful teams...

NYK is a killer for the Hollinger-bot ratings, because their record is awful, but they lose all their games pretty close. Basically, everyone who hits NYK early gets a hit to their SRS because of that (MOV goes down, SOS goes down, SRS goes down) which fools the Hollinger-bot into think you're worse than you are.

I'd place us 3rd or 4th in the West, and 4th or 5th overall. We are the best in he mid-tier awesome teams, imho. The top tier (TOR, GSW, MEM) are tearing it up right now, but it's a marathon, not a sprint. GSW's been lucky with their schedule, and Toronto lost a starter for a little while. Memphis is potentially the best of all the teams, imho.