Cavs @ Blazers 1/08/2012 - Game Thread!

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Felton and Crawford combined for 3 of 19.

Felton I don't really mind, because he's mostly missing chippies right at the rim and I think he actually does a decent job of running the point (most of the time), Crawford ...
 
I'd rather have Crawford and Felton than Miller and Rudy. Even with these abyss type shooting nights.
 
I'm all for trading Batum btw

He'll never be a go-to player. He just doesn't have it in him. Gibson was guarding him, Batum tried to post him up and the play resulted in a turnover

I'm all for including him in a package for a PG at some point
 
We just passed San Antonio in the WC.
 
Btw

Chris Paul is a pretty good comparison for Irving

Idk if Irving has the same bball IQ, but their games look eerily similar to me
 
He has to show much, much more than he has

With these added vets, he's timid, for sure. I think he'll eventually shake out of it, though. The season's still early? :)
 
With these added vets, he's timid, for sure. I think he'll eventually shake out of it, though. The season's still early? :)

He just looks the same as he always has, and that's pretty much a decent/nice player. Average starter at best.

He needs to show the skill to be able to put the ball on the floor and make plays happen to be considered anything more. And no, I don't care what he did against Eurotrash.
 
I wonder if Jamal Crawford is this teams Walt Williams (but streakier)?
 
I wonder if Jamal Crawford is this teams Walt Williams (but streakier)?

I know Crawford is streaky, but we are being deceived. I think he will average a better % as te season progresses. We gotta be patient with him. I like that he's not afraid to take a shot. He will single handedly win us games in the future.
 
Batum needs more minutes, but I'm guessing Nate is favoring Wesley for his aggressiveness. I can't blame him...

Felton is doing really bad though. He can't shoot or finish this season. His passing has been hit or miss. I like that he's pushing tempo, but he's gotta get it together.
 
I wonder if Jamal Crawford is this teams Walt Williams (but streakier)?

More like a rich man's Travis Outlaw. He is worth having - as long as you don't make the mistake of (over)paying him based on his good nights.
 
Nic's role has changed, at least in the first seven games.

Minutes are inconsistent and now plays in garbage time.
 
If we can get a stud at pg for Felton/batum or Felton/Wallace..... U don't think twice about it
 
I'm all for trading Batum btw

I'm all for including him in a package for a PG at some point

This team needs an upgrade at pg and center badly

Seeing as they have two decent backup PG's, these very Cavs would be a good trade partner for us, if they'd like to jettison Varejao and his long contract.
 
Nic's role has changed, at least in the first seven games.

Minutes are inconsistent and now plays in garbage time.

Yeah and he seesm a guy who does much better when he can get in a flow, I wonder how this will effect his contract negotiations, have I heard correctly that Blazers are talking to Wallace about an extension?
 
now if he can just can make a reasonable % of them

Im somewhat ok with him taking a lot of shots but some of them have been absolutely horrible when it comes to degree of difficulty. Now, with that said, if it isnt a major impact over all and that is the trade off for those games when he is on and the clutch shots we will get out of it then Im cool with it. And as some others have mentioned it helps spread the floor and keep the defense honest. Something Rudy for example did not do. Gotta take the good with the bad as long as the good outweighs the bad.
 
Hardly. Crawford is exactly what the team needs off the bench. Namely, someone that can create his own shot.

That's fine, but I would just like to see him cut down on the "hero shots" from about 50% of his takes to around 10%.
 
If we can get a stud at pg for Felton/batum or Felton/Wallace..... U don't think twice about it

What good PG is on the market though? Rondo isn't going anywhere, NJ isnt' going to give on Dwill, the rockets got Lowry at to good of a price to give up. Nash is to old to give up talent for and all the up and coming ones there teams won't part with. The only way I can forsee us getting a different PG is one of the up and comers on playoff teams who's team thinks Felton is a good enough replacement with the other talent they will get so maybe Holiday or Collison but neither one of them really blows my mind.
 
Hardly. Crawford is exactly what the team needs off the bench. Namely, someone that can create his own shot.

There is a difference between being able to create his own shot, and trying to create his own shot every time he has the ball and causing the offensive flow to completely stall.

We need a guy that can create his own shot AFTER the offense has stalled... not create his own shot and CAUSE the offense to stall.
 
Sessions, maybe?

He should certainly be attainable. His defense is fairly atrocious, but he sees the floor well, he knows how to drive and finish and his outside shooting looks somewhat improved this year.
 
Sessions seems like a ball pounder to me... lots of dribbling from what I saw. Not great what needs to be a quicker half-court offense.
 

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