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Interesting. It's all falling into place...

Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5181/text?q={"search":["5181"]}&r=1

(2) PURPOSE
.—The purpose of the Center shall be to lead,
synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government
to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state
and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed
at undermining United States national security interests.



https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/s2943/BILLS-114s2943enr.pdf

<SNIPPET FROM THE BILL FOR THOSE WHO ARE LITERACY CHALLENGED>
S. 2943—549
(1) AUTHORITY FOR GRANTS
.—The Center is authorized to
provide grants or contracts of financial support to civil society
groups, media content providers, nongovernmental organiza-
tions, federally funded research and development centers, pri-
vate companies, or academic institutions for the following pur-
poses:
(A) To support local independent media who are best
placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation
in their own communities.
(B) To collect and store examples in print, online, and
social media, disinformation, misinformation, and propa-
ganda directed at the United States and its allies and
partners.
(C) To analyze and report on tactics, techniques, and
procedures of foreign information warfare with respect to
disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda.
(D) To support efforts by the Center to counter efforts
by foreign entities to use disinformation, misinformation,
and propaganda to influence the policies and social and
political stability of the United States and United States



Interesting wording through this bill..

Will be a matter of time before they start using this bill against media/journalists that do not 'fall in line' with the narrative that the Government wants to push.

another good read on this:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ntering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-law
 
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Interesting. It's all falling into place...

Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5181/text?q={"search":["5181"]}&r=1

(2) PURPOSE
.—The purpose of the Center shall be to lead,
synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government
to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state
and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed
at undermining United States national security interests.



https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/s2943/BILLS-114s2943enr.pdf

S. 2943—549
(1) AUTHORITY FOR GRANTS
.—The Center is authorized to
provide grants or contracts of financial support to civil society
groups, media content providers, nongovernmental organiza-
tions, federally funded research and development centers, pri-
vate companies, or academic institutions for the following pur-
poses:
(A) To support local independent media who are best
placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation
in their own communities.
(B) To collect and store examples in print, online, and
social media, disinformation, misinformation, and propa-
ganda directed at the United States and its allies and
partners.
(C) To analyze and report on tactics, techniques, and
procedures of foreign information warfare with respect to
disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda.
(D) To support efforts by the Center to counter efforts
by foreign entities to use disinformation, misinformation,
and propaganda to influence the policies and social and
political stability of the United States and United States



Interesting wording through this bill..

Will be a matter of time before they start using this bill against media/journalists that do not 'fall in line' with the narrative that the Government wants to push.
Will never win the popular vote....like putting out a fire with gasonline
 
Interesting. It's all falling into place...

Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5181/text?q={"search":["5181"]}&r=1

(2) PURPOSE
.—The purpose of the Center shall be to lead,
synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government
to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state
and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed
at undermining United States national security interests.



https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/s2943/BILLS-114s2943enr.pdf

S. 2943—549
(1) AUTHORITY FOR GRANTS
.—The Center is authorized to
provide grants or contracts of financial support to civil society
groups, media content providers, nongovernmental organiza-
tions, federally funded research and development centers, pri-
vate companies, or academic institutions for the following pur-
poses:
(A) To support local independent media who are best
placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation
in their own communities.
(B) To collect and store examples in print, online, and
social media, disinformation, misinformation, and propa-
ganda directed at the United States and its allies and
partners.
(C) To analyze and report on tactics, techniques, and
procedures of foreign information warfare with respect to
disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda.
(D) To support efforts by the Center to counter efforts
by foreign entities to use disinformation, misinformation,
and propaganda to influence the policies and social and
political stability of the United States and United States



Interesting wording through this bill..

Will be a matter of time before they start using this bill against media/journalists that do not 'fall in line' with the narrative that the Government wants to push.

Started? Lol

"Center for Information Analysis and Response"

Ie Center for External Propaganda Analysis and Internal Propaganda Response.
 
Listening to radio in car, guy giving the news updates says "you're listening to REAL news on CBS"

Pffft.....
 
Hey, who cares about free speech as long as we can have guns, guns, and more guns? You guys have to be the sorest bunch of "winners" on the planet earth.......
 
Interesting. It's all falling into place...

Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5181/text?q={"search":["5181"]}&r=1

(2) PURPOSE
.—The purpose of the Center shall be to lead,
synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government
to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state
and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed
at undermining United States national security interests.



https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/s2943/BILLS-114s2943enr.pdf

S. 2943—549
(1) AUTHORITY FOR GRANTS
.—The Center is authorized to
provide grants or contracts of financial support to civil society
groups, media content providers, nongovernmental organiza-
tions, federally funded research and development centers, pri-
vate companies, or academic institutions for the following pur-
poses:
(A) To support local independent media who are best
placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation
in their own communities.
(B) To collect and store examples in print, online, and
social media, disinformation, misinformation, and propa-
ganda directed at the United States and its allies and
partners.
(C) To analyze and report on tactics, techniques, and
procedures of foreign information warfare with respect to
disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda.
(D) To support efforts by the Center to counter efforts
by foreign entities to use disinformation, misinformation,
and propaganda to influence the policies and social and
political stability of the United States and United States



Interesting wording through this bill..

Will be a matter of time before they start using this bill against media/journalists that do not 'fall in line' with the narrative that the Government wants to push.
More stupidity, pas this and let Trump control it
.. Genius
 
Yeah, I'm not sure how the OP sees censorship in this bill.

Grants are not censorship

Read the bill boys.

I copy and pasted only the portion of the grants, funding, etc as it related to being able to fund certain non-governmental agencies to ascertain what is "real" news and what isn't.


Edited OP, to make it more clear that I only copied a snippet.
 
Hey, who cares about free speech as long as we can have guns, guns, and more guns? You guys have to be the sorest bunch of "winners" on the planet earth.......

Not sure what you are babbling on about. Free speech and guns are both equally important. There are no winners with this bill, (Well except those who want to push their narratives to the people) We all lose, regardless of what side you are on.
 
From the article linked in the OP: The Bill was introduced by Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger from Illinois, Democrat Ted Lieu from California. Originally introduced in March by Republican Senator Rob Portman from Ohio and Democrat Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut.
 
Is "babbling on" the new "butt hurt"? It's so hard to keep up with the latest lingo.

Let me give it a try:
Denny, about all those other threads, I'm not sure what you were babbling on about.

Did I do it right?

barfo
 
Is "babbling on" the new "butt hurt"? It's so hard to keep up with the latest lingo.

Let me give it a try:
Denny, about all those other threads, I'm not sure what you were babbling on about.

Did I do it right?

barfo

Yes, you babble quite well.
 
You can't tell "fire" in a crowded theater, unless you are directing a firing squad.
 
Uhhhhhhhh yes. They both are equally important in their own ways.

Argue all you want, you wont get far.

Your right to freedom of speech can't be taken away from you.

At least not yet, give it time and I'm sure we can make it happen.
 
Your right to freedom of speech can't be taken away from you.

At least not yet, give it time and I'm sure we can make it happen.

Like I said Sly, Both "rights" are equally important in their own way. You can argue about which one is more important or which one can be legally fucked with, but I was never debating that at all. To me, both rights are important, that's all I said. If you are weighting one against the other then that is a different conversation all together, but I was not attempting to do so.
 
Read the bill boys.

I copy and pasted only the portion of the grants, funding, etc as it related to being able to fund certain non-governmental agencies to ascertain what is "real" news and what isn't.


Edited OP, to make it more clear that I only copied a snippet.
I've now taken the time to read the bill, particularly section 3-b "Functions", which details the activities of "The Center for Information Analysis and Response." Having read through it, I fail to see anything therein that would allow the government to (in your words) "start using this bill against media/journalists that do not 'fall in line' with the narrative that the Government wants to push."

Since I don't see anything nefarious, clearly I'm "literatacy <sic> challenged", so perhaps you could assist a poor mental midget such as myself in understanding what it is in this bill of which I should be so concerned?
 
Like I said Sly, Both "rights" are equally important in their own way.

No, you added the "in their own way" part in a later post.

Free speech and guns are both equally important.

Guns are a tool that can be used to aid in free speech but free speech is the foundation of freedom and liberty.
 
I've now taken the time to read the bill, particularly section 3-b "Functions", which details the activities of "The Center for Information Analysis and Response." Having read through it, I fail to see anything therein that would allow the government to (in your words) "start using this bill against media/journalists that do not 'fall in line' with the narrative that the Government wants to push."

Since I don't see anything nefarious, clearly I'm "literatacy <sic> challenged", so perhaps you could assist a poor mental midget such as myself in understanding what it is in this bill of which I should be so concerned?

I see you're down for the US Ministry of Truth? Since when has the Government ever done something correctly for the people? You honestly believe they are going to allow you to see unfettered information?

My apologies, you have been taken aback by my typo from my phone, my bad. Blame regular sized thumbs. Midget doesn't run in my family.

It's more of a bill that further chips away at press liberties in the US, and which sets the stage for future which hunts and website shutdowns, purely as a result of an accusation that any one media outlet or site is considered as a source of "disinformation and propaganda" and is shut down by the government.

Furthermore, outsourcing the "Ministry of Truth" to non-gov sources allows biased companies to directly influence what is being put forth as "truth". This is a clear path to future censorship..
 
No, you added the "in their own way" part in a later post.



Guns are a tool that can be used to aid in free speech but free speech is the foundation of freedom and liberty.


Sly, never in my post did I weigh these two against each other; you are starting an argument/debate for no reason.

This is what I said:

Free speech and guns are both equally important.

And it's exactly that. They are both equally important. I am not saying they are EQUAL to each other, but both independently important in their own unique way, both equally important to the citizen.

Sorry I had to fucking spell it out there for you. LOL
 
Since when has the Government ever done something correctly for the people?

If you honestly can't come up one thing then maybe it's time to leave the country.

Oh wait, I got one... I got one...

Didn't you recently say that you work for the government? So maybe just maybe hiring you was the one thing the government has done correctly?

Or not.
 
I see you're down for the US Ministry of Truth? Since when has the Government ever done something correctly for the people? You honestly believe they are going to allow you to see unfettered information?

My apologies, you have been taken aback by my typo from my phone, my bad. Blame regular sized thumbs. Midget doesn't run in my family.

It's more of a bill that further chips away at press liberties in the US, and which sets the stage for future which hunts and website shutdowns, purely as a result of an accusation that any one media outlet or site is considered as a source of "disinformation and propaganda" and is shut down by the government.

Furthermore, outsourcing the "Ministry of Truth" to non-gov sources allows biased companies to directly influence what is being put forth as "truth". This is a clear path to future censorship..
What I honestly believe is that the bill itself allows for collection and analysis of information rather than suppression thereof. No, I don't trust information provided by or endorsed by the government. But as long as there are no provisos in the bill actually preventing the dissemination of contrary information from other sources--even the nefarious ones the government might see as distributing "propaganda"--then I see nothing that rises to the level of "censorship".
 
If you honestly can't come up one thing then maybe it's time to leave the country.

Oh wait, I got one... I got one...

Didn't you recently say that you work for the government? So maybe just maybe hiring you was the one thing the government has done correctly?

Or not.

Do you have something else to contribute or are you going to troll me today. :-) I see you take turns around here, so today must be mine? LOL.

Yes I work for them. I love working for the country, but that doesn't mean I think it is infallible, and I don't think it's capable of determining what is "true" or "false" for a citizen to see and consume.
 

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