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e_blazer said:
Actually, that's not true. Assuming they don't make a deal by the deadline, the Blazers can use the exact same assets they have right now from the time their season ends up until June 30.
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Channing Frye is a nice expiring contract. We won't be able to trade him without re-signing him after the deadline...

Further, part of the value of RLEC is that it's insured. The value created by those real-dollar savings are lost after the deadline.

We do NOT have the same assets after the deadline as I see it.

Ed O.
 
Ryan (Portland): After a week of dealing with the Blazers, if a deal doesn't get done does, Pritchard run the risk of hurting their ability to talk to teams in the future. Do they look like they are just collecting information?

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:01 PM ET ) I think that's a nice way of saving face. They were trying to do a deal. Didn't get what they want. Talked up the value of Raef LaFrentz relentlessly. Then don't do a deal. I love Kevin Pritchard. But all of the deals he's made so far have been low risk/high reward for the Blazers. This was the first time he had to stick his neck out there. Adding Vince Carter or Richard Jefferson was a higher risk scenario. I sounds like he didn't want to roll the dice.
 
e_blazer said:
Until June 30, this year's cap is still in effect.
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Yes but that is a little bit late to get help now. The Blazers have been playing like hell lately, barely beating league bottom feeders at home, losing to them on the road. Do you want to make the playoffs this year? I do. I also would like to start building chemistry for down the road, now.

Secondly, the Blazers need to recognize the ramifications on passing on such players. Other suitors, such as Houston and San Antonio and Dallas are looking to upgrade their talent. Right now. If they dig down and upgrade, then now we have to face that player on an already very good squad, for the next several years.
 
hasoos said:
Yes but that is a little bit late to get help now. The Blazers have been playing like hell lately, barely beating league bottom feeders at home, losing to them on the road. Do you want to make the playoffs this year? I do. I also would like to start building chemistry for down the road, now.

Secondly, the Blazers need to recognize the ramifications on passing on such players. Other suitors, such as Houston and San Antonio and Dallas are looking to upgrade their talent. Right now. If they dig down and upgrade, then now we have to face that player on an already very good squad, for the next several years.
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Exactly. I'm tired of people saying bake it, and/or don't hurt the team's chemistry, because I really see no reason not to tamper with the team right now. It's very highly unlikely that we make it out of the first round, so I think this is as good a time as any to make a move if it fits our team concept. We aren't playing that well, we haven't been playing that well for a while now, and we have exposed some real holes in our lineup (i.e. point guard and small forward). If we can address those holes, we should do it.

With that said, I thought what Chad Ford said was interesting. I get the same feeling, that KP might be unwilling to make a trade that is straight across, rather than a pritchslap.
 
Jeff (MD): Isn't Pritchard starting to get Paxson syndrome? A few years ago, Chicago had all the young talent and were reluctant to make a trade. Seems Portland is following the same path.

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:09 PM ET ) It's an issue in one sense. GMs have a way of falling in love with their young players. That leads them to overvalue their own talent. They become afraid to let them go because they think they may just be another year away from stardom. Thus ... you see the Blazers reluctant to include Nicolas Batum in a deal even though he's given them little sign that he can be a great NBA player. It's tough when you're so close to the situation.
 
I'm remaining relaxed about whether or not we trade until a few hours after the deadline. Getting pre-emptively angry doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose.
 
free_lafrentz said:
Jeff (MD): Isn't Pritchard starting to get Paxson syndrome? A few years ago, Chicago had all the young talent and were reluctant to make a trade. Seems Portland is following the same path.

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:09 PM ET ) It's an issue in one sense. GMs have a way of falling in love with their young players. That leads them to overvalue their own talent. They become afraid to let them go because they think they may just be another year away from stardom. Thus ... you see the Blazers reluctant to include Nicolas Batum in a deal even though he's given them little sign that he can be a great NBA player. It's tough when you're so close to the situation.
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It's understandable I guess. I don't think there's anyone else that pours more resources into the draft than KP and his staff, and this team is basically hand-picked by him so I could understand the reluctance to part with your babies.
 
Reep said:
Remember that Blazers are not limited to a FA this Summer. With the economic issues, there is more value (and opportunity) to pick up a contract via trade.

I would be interested to see a list of 2009-2010 contracts that fall between $7-12M.

Couldn't they throw in a contract to make it even higher?

Outlaw + $7M cap space + 3M TE = $14M player in return?

Or

Outlaw + $7M cap space + 3M TE = Bad contract + Young good player?
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From what I have read...you cannot use that $3 million TE with available cap space to get a player...apparently you cannot use it AT ALL if you are under the cap....

Secondly...Where is this assumption of $7 million in cap space coming from? Who does POR have to renounce to get to that number? Does it take into account the NBA's recent statement that willl be REDUCING the salaray cap for next year? Are you SURE that the economic factors that are driving owners to make deals now, will be the same or worse this summer?

I don't see the "golden opportunity" that POR may have this summer....

If someone does, then by all means please enlighten me....
 
free_lafrentz said:
Jeff (MD): Isn't Pritchard starting to get Paxson syndrome? A few years ago, Chicago had all the young talent and were reluctant to make a trade. Seems Portland is following the same path.

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:09 PM ET ) It's an issue in one sense. GMs have a way of falling in love with their young players. That leads them to overvalue their own talent. They become afraid to let them go because they think they may just be another year away from stardom. Thus ... you see the Blazers reluctant to include Nicolas Batum in a deal even though he's given them little sign that he can be a great NBA player. It's tough when you're so close to the situation.
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Not the smartest thing Chard Ford has ever said.
 
Chad Ford (in so many words being nice) KP HAS NO GUTS

Ryan (Portland): After a week of dealing with the Blazers, if a deal doesn't get done does, Pritchard run the risk of hurting their ability to talk to teams in the future. Do they look like they are just collecting information?


Chad Ford: (1:01 PM ET ) I think that's a nice way of saving face. They were trying to do a deal. Didn't get what they want. Talked up the value of Raef LaFrentz relentlessly. Then don't do a deal. I love Kevin Pritchard. But all of the deals he's made so far have been low risk/high reward for the Blazers. This was the first time he had to stick his neck out there. Adding Vince Carter or Richard Jefferson was a higher risk scenario. It sounds like he didn't want to roll the dice.

TRANSLATION..... HES A FUCKING PUSSY

Its quite obvious KP is waaaay overated as a GM and today will prove it. If you cnat move batum for wallace, you simply need your head examined. And im so fucking sick of hearing about what great talent we have. Oden is an injury prone average center, Rudy can shoot threes and thats it, bayless cant shoot, sergio cant even make his own national team, outlaw is about as bad as defnder as there is and aldridge cant even take over a game vs the grizz AT HOME. WHERE IS ALL THIS GREAT TALENT??/ The only one he got right was roy. Its a joke to hear how great he is. Good gms make sure there teams get better, KP just wants lotto picks.
 
Re: Chad Ford (in so many words being nice) KP HAS NO GUTS

please lock this. its already in another thread.
 
Re: Chad Ford (in so many words being nice) KP HAS NO GUTS

This is already in a thread
 
1. Our young talent is better than anything Chicago had with the Gordon/Deng/Hinrich show. Roy and Aldridge are both better players than anyone Chicago had at the time. Oden should be better than any of them, too.

2. Our young talent "fits." SG, jump-shooting PF, and main cog at C. Chicago had a PG, a SF, and an elite 6th man without a true position.

3. KP is more competent than Paxson. At least, he has shown himself to be in the past.
 
I'm merging as fast as I can, guys.

Ed O.
 
Re: Chad Ford (in so many words being nice) KP HAS NO GUTS

MIXUM said:
TRANSLATION..... HES A FUCKING PUSSY
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Totally unnecessary. It's not 6 p.m. your time yet but you're already blowing up.
 
Ed O said:
Channing Frye is a nice expiring contract. We won't be able to trade him without re-signing him after the deadline...

Further, part of the value of RLEC is that it's insured. The value created by those real-dollar savings are lost after the deadline.

We do NOT have the same assets after the deadline as I see it.

Ed O.
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I was referring to the time period between the end of the Blazers' season and July 1. Raef's and Frye's contracts don't end until June 30th. However, I had forgotten that you can't trade an ending contract in that time period, so the bottom line is that you are correct.
 
Re: Chad Ford (in so many words being nice) KP HAS NO GUTS

MIXUM said:
TRANSLATION..... HES A FUCKING PUSSY.
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a) Totally Unnecessary.
b) Totally Premature.
c) Totally Predictable.

Mixum, you never disappoint. Yet you always do.
 
Re: Chad Ford (in so many words being nice) KP HAS NO GUTS

alex42083 said:
Totally unnecessary. It's not 6 p.m. your time yet but you're already blowing up.
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Well... Ford is basically saying that. He's saying that KP is unwilling to stick his neck out and take a chance and/or that he's too donf of his own players.

I'm not sure Ford is right, of course.

I also disagree strongly with MIXUM's characterization of the team and its players in his final paragraph :)

Ed O.
 
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Blazer Freak said:
The deadline is actually 3pm Eastern time.
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I was just going off one of mixum's other countless threads about how trades could come up 2-3 hours after the deadline, and he said when it reaches 6 p.m. his time (he lives in the east) and there's no trade, he'll explode.
 
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