Chad Ford: Trade for Paul was very close

[BGrantFan]

Please let me know how it was an opinion. If you didn't express an opinion you can admit you're wrong, but rudely stating that it was my problem for not seeing one is unfair. Please point out the opinion or the point you were trying to make or admit that it was not my failure to detect a point but your failure to include one.

Ed O.

Christ dude, figure it out. Stop derailing the thread.

 

[Masbee]

It does strike me as odd that he mentioned not liking the situation if we traded one of Roy or Aldridge, but doesn't mention saying how he would not want to play for the Nets if say they got rid of say Lopez. I just found that odd and wonder. And still wtf Knicks? They suck and would remain sucky if Paul went there.

Paul is one of the fiercest competitors in the NBA. Dude is intense on the court. I find questioning his desire to win a bit confusing.

I bet he just hadn't thought it through to every last detail. News had just broke. How many players know every team's roster/salary/cap space/draft pick situations without studying?

He may not have realized then that the Knicks don't have enough cap space to get him and still sign other good players, nor does he know the Knicks gave away so many of their picks.

I think he just assumed that the Knicks could put together a two year plan to remake the roster. He likely now knows that there isn't any way for the Knicks to do it.

 

[BGrantFan]

Paul is one of the fiercest competitors in the NBA. Dude is intense on the court. I find questioning his desire to win a bit confusing.

I bet he just hadn't thought it through to every last detail. News had just broke. How many players know every team's roster/salary/cap space/draft pick situations without studying?

He may not have realized then that the Knicks don't have enough cap space to get him and still sign other good players, nor does he know the Knicks gave away so many of their picks.

I think he just assumed that the Knicks could put together a two year plan to remake the roster. He likely now knows that there isn't any way for the Knicks to do it.

I'm sure that's the case, but his remarks did leave some doubt.

 

[Idog1976]

Rep BrianFromWA, he's the guy who really went into detail how Paul would benefit Oden's game.

Do you know where the post is? I'll rep it gladly.

 

[Minstrel]

Christ dude, figure it out. Stop derailing the thread.

Well, you didn't actually give an opinion. As usual, you gave on or two observations and then, when people tried to guess the point you were making from the observations, you basically said "All I said was X and Y "

 

[BGrantFan]

Well, you didn't actually give an opinion. As usual, you gave on or two observations and then, when people tried to guess the point you were making from the observations, you basically said "All I said was X and Y "

Why am I so in your heads (collectively?).

A throw-away comment based in simple logic becomes a reason to derail a thread, and then you start spouting nonsense about oil spills.

I'll gladly take this up on PM if you want to, but I already explained it in this thread.

Odd that a poster would be requesting mods to keep things on topic.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Why am I so in your heads (collectively?).

A throw-away comment based in simple logic becomes a reason to derail a thread, and then you start spouting nonsense about oil spills.

I'll gladly take this up on PM if you want to, but I already explained it in this thread.

Odd that a poster would be requesting mods to keep things on topic.

Why did you change your username anyway?

 

[Minstrel]

Why am I so in your heads (collectively?).

I can't stop thinking about you. Do you mind if I lurk in your bushes and take photographs of you? Would that be odd?

A throw-away comment based in simple logic becomes a reason to derail a thread, and then you start spouting nonsense about oil spills.

We were wondering what you meant. I think that's fair. One day, you may even tell us.

I'll gladly take this up on PM if you want to, but I already explained it in this thread.

Odd that a poster would be requesting mods to keep things on topic.

It's upside-down day. And unless you were off-topic, asking what you meant isn't off-topic.

 

[BGrantFan]

We were wondering what you meant. I think that's fair. One day, you may even tell us.

I already told you. You replied with some nonsense about oil spills and soccer.

 

[BGrantFan]

Why did you change your username anyway?

I've never changed my username.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I've never changed my username.

Yeah, I suppose that is technically true

 

[Minstrel]

I already told you.

Nah. You said "I can only form my opinion from media reports. Last week, Paul, this week, Matthews/Farmar." That's not a point....as I said, they're merely observations. You need to actually link them together with a point. I remain ever-hopeful.

 

[BGrantFan]

Nah. You said "I can only form my opinion from media reports. Last week, Paul, this week, Matthews/Farmar." That's not a point....as I said, they're merely observations. You need to actually link them together with a point. I remain ever-hopeful.

What is wrong with making an observation?

"Keep the faith!" was an opinion, wasn't it? Same with "Rise with us!". Help me out here.

 

[RR7]

I don't really understand PapaG's complaint. He said we went from Chris Paul to Wesley Matthews as the big Blazer stories, yet here we are, a week later, and the big story seems to be... Chris Paul still. But, it's PapaG. Too bad the ignore feature doesn't carry over when someone changes their screen name because he's afraid some loser in Beaverton is going to hack his computer. Ah PapaG. What a fucking tread.

 

[Minstrel]

What is wrong with making an observation?

Nothing. You just said you had an opinion and that it was obvious. Now you agree you only gave a couple of observations. The opinion on those observations was missing.

"Keep the faith!" was an opinion, wasn't it? Same with "Rise with us!".

Actually, they're both exhortations. You could try to infer opinions from them, but they're not actual opinions themselves. It's a tricky business, apparently.

I guess if you feel me (and Ed) waiting for you to render your opinion vis a vis Paul and Matthews/Farmar is derailing the thread, we can drop it.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Why did you change your username anyway?

Who is BGF?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Rumor has it, PapaG

 

[EGame]

So... About Chris Paul. I am still in the camp of doing Oden and Batum +fillers for Paul...

 

[BGrantFan]

Nothing. You just said you had an opinion and that it was obvious. Now you agree you only gave a couple of observations. The opinion on those observations was missing.



Actually, they're both exhortations. You could try to infer opinions from them, but they're not actual opinions themselves. It's a tricky business, apparently.

I guess if you feel me (and Ed) waiting for you to render your opinion vis a vis Paul and Matthews/Farmar is derailing the thread, we can drop it.

Seriously? Where does it say each post must include an overt opinion in the TOS?

 

[cdub503]

lol any way we can try to do a three way so we dont give up batum?

 

[EGame]

lol any way we can try to do a three way so we dont give up batum?

The third team would want Paul, not facilitate. So probably not, no.

 

[Minstrel]

Seriously? Where does it say each post must include an overt opinion in the TOS?

Haha. You're not breaking a rule, my man. You simply said you gave an obvious opinion, so we wondered what it was. Relax...the cops haven't been contacted.

 

[BGrantFan]

So... About Chris Paul. I am still in the camp of doing Oden and Batum +fillers for Paul...

Me too.

 

[BGrantFan]

Haha. You're not breaking a rule, my man. You simply said you gave an obvious opinion, so we wondered what it was. Relax...the cops haven't been contacted.

I spelled it out to you, literally. Fuck it. Later. Hope it boosted your ego.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Rumor has it, PapaG

Oh, duh. Could it have been more obvious??

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Did someone say PapaG?

 

[BGrantFan]

Oh, duh. Could it have been more obvious??

Is that why the mods are chasing me down like bitches in heat? Clue me in, here.

 

[Minstrel]

So... About Chris Paul. I am still in the camp of doing Oden and Batum +fillers for Paul...

If Portland did it...I'd be cautiously optimistic. I don't think I could pull the trigger on that, as much as I love Paul. I think Oden is going to be a monster center and Batum is going to be a fantastic all-around wing. I want Paul to play with them, not instead of them.

But if the deal were done, there's a lot more certainty to a Paul/Roy/Aldridge core, so I couldn't hate it.

 

[EGame]

If Portland did it...I'd be cautiously optimistic. I don't think I could pull the trigger on that, as much as I love Paul. I think Oden is going to be a monster center and Batum is going to be a fantastic all-around wing. I want Paul to play with them, not instead of them.

But if the deal were done, there's a lot more certainty to a Paul/Roy/Aldridge core, so I couldn't hate it.

Well I think Oden can be a monster too, but I am really questioning his health. On one side I am glad he isn't having reoccuring injuries in the same place/chronic injuries, but on the flip side, it concerns me that he had his latest injury, well only God knows how. The fact he made no contact other than the ground deeply concerns me. Lets just say I have not given up on Oden and if he is still here come training camp I will be cheering him on like every other Blazer fan, however, when it comes to potentially acquiring a top 5 player in this league, I would deal Oden, run away with and hopefully don't have to look back.

 

[Idog1976]

Well I think Oden can be a monster too, but I am really questioning his health. On one side I am glad he isn't having reoccuring injuries in the same place/chronic injuries, but on the flip side, it concerns me that he had his latest injury, well only God knows how. The fact he made no contact other than the ground deeply concerns me. Lets just say I have not given up on Oden and if he is still here come training camp I will be cheering him on like every other Blazer fan, however, when it comes to potentially acquiring a top 5 player in this league, I would deal Oden, run away with and hopefully don't have to look back.

What's with all this doomsaying over that kneecap splitting? Now IF his bones are congenitally brittle that's a problem, you could argue there is evidence for that. However, the injury in question was caused by him:


BEASTING THE FUCK OUT WITH MONSTER QUADS OF DEATH!!!


So really the no contact thing is irrelevant. His bone strength however might be. There might very well be dietary things he could do (goats milk, lots of certain green veggies, supplements) that could strengthen his bones.

Or he could go all Kung Fu on that ass and beat his bones against wooden posts and shit until he's a total bad ass.

On second thought lets skip on that last idea.

Seriously though, they are all different injuries. He's due for a healthy period. I swear to god I will burn the Vulcan Offices to the ground if we trade him for someone less then CP3/LeBron/Wade and he blows up into the player I know he will be.