Chairman Tom Price with 1,073-page Non-Stimulus Text

[barfo]

Cultural differences, high percentage of car ownership, density of investment in road infrastructure, inexpensive flight options and distance between destinations.

Acela doesn't turn a profit, and that runs along the most densely populated stretch in the US. How is a desert railway going to make money?

None of those things make it not possible, those are simply reasons why it hasn't worked recently.
The future will be different than the past (I claim).

barfo

 

[barfo]

A few weeks back, one of the republican senators put out the idea of a government backed, 4.0% mortgage rate. That is a better idea for a stimulus than most of what I see in this bill.

It's not a crazy idea. It would certainly be good news for real estate investors.

barfo

 

[PapaG]

Which is just fine. My party is in power now, they are responsible for whatever happens.

barfo

I don't have a "party". What am I to do?

 

[barfo]

I don't have a "party". What am I to do?

Complain on a daily basis?

barfo

 

[PapaG]

A few weeks back, one of the republican senators put out the idea of a government backed, 4.0% mortgage rate. That is a better idea for a stimulus than most of what I see in this bill.

Come on now! You can't build $8 billion SuperTrains from Disneyland to Vegas in 2014 by simply lowering 30-year mortgage rates!

WASHINGTON — High-speed railroads that might someday whisk visitors between Las Vegas and Southern California received a boost under the economic stimulus bill. But Republicans are trying to make Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., pay a price for the plan.

Reid inserted $8 billion in the bill to construct high-speed rail lines. The amount was four times more than the Senate approved in an earlier version of the stimulus bill.

 

[PapaG]

Complain on a daily basis?

barfo

I'll take that over being a party robot every day, so I suppose I'm on the right "track".

 

[barfo]

I'll take that over being a party robot every day, so I suppose I'm on the right "track".

A party robot? Why, I'm an "independent", just like everyone else here. Heh heh.

barfo

 

[PapaG]

A party robot? Why, I'm an "independent", just like everyone else here. Heh heh.

barfo

Party over country...or party is country...or something like that. Just don't be the one to push me on the train to the re-education camp. OK, if you do, at least be witty.

 

[barfo]

Party over country...or party is country...or something like that. Just don't be the one to push me on the train to the re-education camp. OK, if you do, at least be witty.

But it will be a high-speed train! Don't you want to ride one? They are a lot of fun, I can tell you that. At least I'll be able to after you've returned from the camp.

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

Just don't be the one to push me on the train to the re-education camp.

Think of that train as an investment in our future!

Plus it'll generate jobs to build the train system, run it, etc.

 

[maxiep]

None of those things make it not possible, those are simply reasons why it hasn't worked recently.
The future will be different than the past (I claim).

barfo

It's nice that you "hope" for "change". I tend to look at repeated trials with the same results as confirming the hypothesis.

 

[barfo]

It's nice that you "hope" for "change". I tend to look at repeated trials with the same results as confirming the hypothesis.

Really, you don't think the world has changed over the past 50 years or so? Remember that railroads were king 100 years ago. Things change. We didn't use to be able to chat on S2. We had to use bbf.com, uphill both ways in the snow.

Railroads may make a comeback. It makes sense they would given the inevitable shortage of oil.

barfo

 

[BrianFromWA]

As a small business owner, I would absolutely LOVE if my credit lines were re-extended to July 2008 levels. I don't need any more than I had, just wish they could be put back. But even with the billions infused from the gov't, I can't get a loan or have my credit lines extended.

So forgive me if I'm not as fired up about the National Endowment for the Arts or more TV converters. Getting the ability to borrow money could have my small business hire two (of the original 3) of my salesmen back.

But feel free to continue hoping that more TV converter boxes means more jobs.

 

[barfo]

As a small business owner, I would absolutely LOVE if my credit lines were re-extended to July 2008 levels. I don't need any more than I had, just wish they could be put back. But even with the billions infused from the gov't, I can't get a loan or have my credit lines extended.

The answer to that, of course, is don't borrow.

So forgive me if I'm not as fired up about the National Endowment for the Arts or more TV converters. Getting the ability to borrow money could have my small business hire two (of the original 3) of my salesmen back.

What sort of business is your business?

But feel free to continue hoping that more TV converter boxes means more jobs.

Someone needs to build (import?) and sell those converter boxes, right? So there are jobs there. Plus I think someone posted that that example isn't really valid.

barfo

 

[HailBlazers]

As a small business owner, I would absolutely LOVE if my credit lines were re-extended to July 2008 levels. I don't need any more than I had, just wish they could be put back. But even with the billions infused from the gov't, I can't get a loan or have my credit lines extended.

So forgive me if I'm not as fired up about the National Endowment for the Arts or more TV converters. Getting the ability to borrow money could have my small business hire two (of the original 3) of my salesmen back.

But feel free to continue hoping that more TV converter boxes means more jobs.

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