Championship: Huevonkiller vs. DynastYWarrioR6

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Champion?

  • Huevonkiller

    Votes: 26 53.1%

  • DynastYWarrioR6

    Votes: 23 46.9%
  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .

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J_Ray said:
My turnover thing never got trashed, you just threw it aside easily cuz you simply couldn't answer. Everything you couldn't answer, you just ignored, or tried changing topics. You obviously have a biased opinion and have no idea about most players outside of this ERA.
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You didn't retort anything, your hyperbole was caught.

huevonkiller said:
Pippen has a higher turnover rate compared to Pierce. Paul is the best passer in this matchup, and Carter's turnover rate at 9.8% is amazingly low.
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Your retort to that was puzzling because how exactly do I have a turnover problem still...

Robinson had a turnover rate of 7.8%, and Paul's turnover rate is 13% compared to 20% for John Stockton. Lol you totally lost on this, get out of here with that.
 
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JUNIOR MINT said:
Honestly, your team IS all MJ/Scottie, all you have is great ROLE PLAYERS around the greatness of Jordan and Pippen. you don't have a great distributor on your team like a Chris Paul, you don't have a dominant big man like a Robinson.
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Honestly, with the number one pick I would have also picked up Paul for sure then this thing would be definitely over. And with practically the same bench? Damn. :p
 
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The ABA was weaker? That's utter BS. It was stronger than the NBA is today. The NBA took in 4 of the ABA teams, and the best ABA players immediately became NBA stars or top NBA players. The Spurs won 44 games its first season in the NBA. The Nets were so good that the Knicks owners feared them and had the team broken up as part of the merger. The Denver Nuggets won 50 games and their division behind one of my guys (David Thompson) and Issel, losing in the playoffs to another team led by one of my guys (Walton) and those Blazers went on to win the championship.

Today's NBA players compete in a league with diluted talent. They're playing against a lot of Euro players and guys who never went to college or went for a year and in a league with talent spread across 30 teams instead of 16. Euro players? They're only in the NBA because of the decline in fundamental basketball skills in the NBA over the past couple decades due to all the HS aged players (who aren't fundamentally sound).

The pace argument is bogus. These are all-star teams. The 2008 NBA All-Star game score was East 134/West 128.

NBA Championships are typically won by the team who arguably has the best player in the league, or at least one of the very best players. When legitimate debates about who the best player in the history of the league are held, it's between Wilt and Jordan and DW's team has Jordan. And Pippen, another top 50 player who'd be the best player in the league today. The statement that DW's team has Jordan/Pippen and a stellar supporting cast that the Bulls didn't have but won 6 championships anyway says it all.

This is a no-brainer and shouldn't even be a contest.
 
Denny Crane said:
The ABA was weaker? That's utter BS. It was stronger than the NBA is today. The NBA took in 4 of the ABA teams, and the best ABA players immediately became NBA stars or top NBA players. The Spurs won 44 games its first season in the NBA. The Nets were so good that the Knicks owners feared them and had the team broken up as part of the merger. The Denver Nuggets won 50 games and their division behind one of my guys (David Thompson) and Issel, losing in the playoffs to another team led by one of my guys (Walton) and those Blazers went on to win the championship.
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It is utter BS when their production literally declined?

Dr. J, Dan Issel, Mack Calvin, Rick Barry's best season, Billy Paultz, Artis Gilmore, just off the top of my head. And the NBA absorbed them, not the other way around.
Today's NBA players compete in a league with diluted talent. They're playing against a lot of Euro players and guys who never went to college or went for a year and in a league with talent spread across 30 teams instead of 16. Euro players? They're only in the NBA because of the decline in fundamental basketball skills in the NBA over the past couple decades due to all the HS aged players (who aren't fundamentally sound).
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I've already proven to you one can have the greatest rebound rate ever and not average 20 Rebounds a game at this pace. PER is also supposed to account for rule changes, since it takes the average league-wide (whether inflated or deflated) and measures how high above that margin one is at.
The pace argument is bogus. These are all-star teams. The 2008 NBA All-Star game score was East 134/West 128.
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The Spurs can only score so many points precisely due to their pace. I've never seen how it doesn't matter.

Possessions is extremely important because it gives one the wrong impression that offense is being created, when it is simply not. If Paul Pierce's games go into triple over time every night he'll seem like a god.

NBA Championships are typically won by the team who arguably has the best player in the league, or at least one of the very best players. When legitimate debates about who the best player in the history of the league are held, it's between Wilt and Jordan and DW's team has Jordan. And Pippen, another top 50 player who'd be the best player in the league today. The statement that DW's team has Jordan/Pippen and a stellar supporting cast that the Bulls didn't have but won 6 championships anyway says it all.

This is a no-brainer and shouldn't even be a contest.
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I think Junior Mint did an excellent job of explaining why this is at least a tight competition. Fact is DW gave me an opening by drafting what isn't exactly a great distributor of the ball. My rebound rates are higher, my post offense/defense is superior, my offense runs much smoother, my bench is amazing, it is easily a contest.
 
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The Nets took a while to get better Denny.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NJN/

The Spurs/Nuggets were elite teams in the ABA (Nuggets winning % went down by 10, the Spurs % went down by six their first year) that did still decline in their transition. George Gervin and Thompson (Thompson was only 21 and played one season in the ABA, and Gervin only played in the ABA until he was 23) are some exceptions to the rule though they hadn't spend much time in the ABA, and their teammates didn't all benefit.
 
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Well it seems like you guys are taking this way too seriously. :lol:

Come on guys, just calm down. Why do you guys always bag on huevon's team every round? It's ridiculous. And I dunno why you guys are debating this in the first place. It's not like it's huevon's decision who wins, it's up to the posters here who vote.
 
I think it's pretty close but all I had to see was Jordan vs. VC, I mean come on Jordan would score like 60 a night on him. Heuvon's bench is better but Dynasty's starters are legends and all else being equal starters are much more important.

Why is Byron Scott playing PG? He is not a PG.
 
HiRez said:
I think it's pretty close but all I had to see was Jordan vs. VC, I mean come on Jordan would score like 60 a night on him. Heuvon's bench is better but Dynasty's starters are legends and all else being equal starters are much more important.

Why is Byron Scott playing PG? He is not a PG.
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Actually Robinson patrols the paint well, and Pierce/VC can be interchanged at the SG-SF position quite easily. Pierce is an underrated defender, and with Robinson's history against Jordan altering shots http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=robinda01&p2=jordami01 I'm not getting torched. I also think you're underrating my other starters but that's fine.
 
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In my opinion, this is the closest matchup out of all the teams so far. It would all come down to the play of Pippen/Jordan. They would light up Carter and Pierce no matter who's holding who. That could be a major factor. But again, huevon's bench is just extremely talented. Really, close but in the end I think Pippen/Jordan would be the difference makers.
 
umair said:
In my opinion, this is the closest matchup out of all the teams so far. It would all come down to the play of Pippen/Jordan. They would light up Carter and Pierce no matter who's holding who. That could be a major factor. But again, huevon's bench is just extremely talented. Really, close but in the end I think Pippen/Jordan would be the difference makers.
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Well I appreciate your very polite thoughts umair, I've got nothing against you.
 
It' is so damn sad that Jordan/Pippen is all anyone sees.
 
Game over.

Good game Huevon, now that this is over, any mean thing I said to anyone is now null :D
 
What a terrible attitude to have.
 
Oh btw, when it was tied up at 23 votes, I didn't vote to give DynastyWarrior the lead. I voted a long time ago when I believe it was like 4-4 so don't think I wanted to give him the edge in the end. I was one of the first to vote. But Huevon has a 2 vote lead. Congrats Huevon!
 
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