channing frye's future...

[rookie789]

does anybody here think he'll be a future star? i see some chris webber in him because of his mid range jump shots

 

[Legacy]

Hell yeah he's gonna be a future star I thougt he sucked when the knicks drafted him but he is hella good.

 

[lakerman34]

I really like what Channing Frye has been doing in this league. I say someday he is going to be better than C-Webb.

 

[Mr. J]

Channing Frye won't ever be as good as Chris Webber. Have we forgotten Webber has four all-star appearances (two starts) and career averages around 22/10/4.5. To think Frye will ever reach superstardom like Webber is vastly overrating his skills. I like Frye and think he has a solid future in ahead of him, however, calling him better than Webber is uncalled for.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

Somebody please stop the madness!!!

Better than Chris Webber???

I suppose I should be happy noone said he was the next Tim Duncan or Bob Macadoo

He can't even create his own shot and people are already calling him a future star. Channing Frye is a jumpshooting big man. That is it! That is all. He has no post game and he's a mediocre rebounder. He will never be a guy who can give the ball to and say "here go do something with it". The only way he can score is if someone drew a double team and his man left him so he could get a wide open jumper. That makes him a role player. A damn good role player but in the end just a role player. He would not be putting up the numbers he is currently putting up if he was on a good team or even a half decent one. So please enough of this future star nonsense until he shows he can be something other than a good role player. The way I figure it he's Kurt Thomas minus the defense, rebounding and overall toughness with a better jumpshot. That is not a good trade off in my opinion.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Run BJM]

I think Frye will become a player very similar to Brad Miller. They both mostly work in the high post, good mid range jumpshooters, adequate offensively on the low block but it isnt a strength of theirs, both block some shots on occasion, both play average defense. Miller will always be the superior passer but Frye has a similar game in my opinion.

 

[Buckets]

Just cause he can shoot the J dont mean he's even close to being the next C-Webb. Chris Webber was the thing to be back in the day, and still is putting up numbers that are impossible for some cats. No disrespect to Channing Frye but Webbers on a whole different level, he's got passing skills of a PG, and post up game of a big.

 

[Bobcats]

Channing will be a solid player, but that's it. He really doesn't have a lot of potential to be a 20/10 guy. In his prime I can see him maybe being a 20/8 guy.

 

[Platehpus]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Buckets:</div><div class="quote_post">Just cause he can shoot the J dont mean he's even close to being the next C-Webb. Chris Webber was the thing to be back in the day, and still is putting up numbers that are impossible for some cats. No disrespect to Channing Frye but Webbers on a whole different level, he's got passing skills of a PG, and post up game of a big.</div>
I agree with this post, while I disagree with most of what Tribute to H20 said. C-Webbs skillset in his prime was so ridiculous, and if he didn't have the motivation/injury problems we'd probably be talking about him a lot more these days. I also think that Channing Frye is more than just a "really good roleplayer", because I think he's shown that he knows what to do (not all the time) when he gets the ball in the paint and when he has to, he crashes the boards. It's going to be interesting to see how our young guys pan out, I don't think Frye will be our best but I'm sure he'll play an integral part of our future.

 

[thedude9990]

i see him as a shaq/chamberlin type lol j/k

i see him being a role player as of now someone you can put in the game that can hit open shots and give u 10-14 a game. i see as his career goes he will be about a 18- 7 player

 

[Platehpus]

I kind of doubt he'll end up just being a role player, I see him as a starter who gives 35 minutes of hard ball a game, an eventual shotblocker and hopefully someone to compliment Curry in the paint.

 

[Mr. J]

I agree with Platehpus. I see Frye being a very integral part of our future. He's not a watered down Kurt Thomas like Tribute said. He's more than just a jump shooting big man. His post game is raw, but he's shown flashes. Now that he's working with Agguire, I'm confident this part of his game will improve. The Brad Miller comparison is interesting, but too many times we get caught up in the comparisons. Frye is what he is.

 

[Bleed Green]

We'll Marbury did call him a mini version of Duncan but I wont go that far. Have you guys forgotten that Frye is still a rookie. He's shown he has a very good offense. Year by year he'll add features to his game that will make him a better player. I still think he's going 2 get more bulker and produce some more big man moves. I agree that Frye is going 2 be a huge part of the Knicks future.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Platehpus:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with this post, while I disagree with most of what Tribute to H20 said. C-Webbs skillset in his prime was so ridiculous, and if he didn't have the motivation/injury problems we'd probably be talking about him a lot more these days. I also think that Channing Frye is more than just a "really good roleplayer", because I think he's shown that he knows what to do (not all the time) when he gets the ball in the paint and when he has to, he crashes the boards. It's going to be interesting to see how our young guys pan out, I don't think Frye will be our best but I'm sure he'll play an integral part of our future.</div>

What do you disagree with exactly? Tell me where does all this superstar stuff come from? I've given reasons why he's just a role player and all I've gotten back is "he's just a rookie" and "Agguire is helping him with his post up game".

Can somebody give me a good reason why they think Frye will be more than just a good role player? Can someone tell me why they think Frye will be better than Kurt Thomas? I'll say why Frye will just be a good role player again just in case anyone forgot. He is a mediocre rebounder, has no post up game and simply cant create his own shot. Anyone who thinks Agguire can teach him to be a good low post scorer is just fooling themselves. Agguire couldnt turn Mohammed into a good low post scorer and Mohammed has better tools than Frye. Frye doesnt have the muscle and cant put on the muscle to fight in the low post and be effective. Frye is and always will be a strictly jumpshooting big man. He's not going to be Tim Duncan or Bob Macadoo or Chris Webber. He's not going to be Brad Miller since Brad Miller is a much, much better passer and unless Vlade Divac comes out of retirement and joins the Knicks it's going to stay that way. Frye compares favorably with one of Miller's teammates however. That would be Darius Songaila. Both are jumpshooting big men, mediocre rebounders, incapable of creating their own shot and are destined to be role players for the entire careers. If Frye was on a decent team noone would be comparing him to greats like Duncan or Macadoo or Webber. If/When this team gets better it will become more and more obvious the only reason why Frye looked so good is because the team was pretty bad. I say we trade him while his trade value is still unreasonably high. Now can someone, anyone give me a good explanation why they disagree with my assessment?


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Nasty]

Kurt Thomas Part II.

 

[Beat]

Filthy Richmans Michael Doleac

 

[CrazyArtest]

Channing Frye wont be as good as C-Webb, he cant even rebound as good as him and pass as good a him, but he will be a solid player..

 

[Platehpus]

Tribute To H20, your remarks about him being a role player kind of confuse me. It's someones first year in the league, and already he's had a 4 game streak of scoring 20+ points. He hustles after the rebounds that go flying into the highpost/backcourt/sidelines, I've seen him make some nice blocks and like MJ said, with Agguire teamed up with anyone big and tall, no matter who, he always gets results.

So how do you see him as a career role player? If his progression keeps steady (which it won't), he'd probably end up with the starting job by the end of the season. Now, with the typical bumps and turns rookies face it'll probably be more like 2006. Frye is the rookie I don't think we'll have to worry about.

 

[rookie789]

he proved ppl wrong to whoever said he cant create his own shots in the past few games, he can do hook shots, and can drive for a dunk, and best of all jump shots, this guy can do them all